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McCain Proves Amnesty is Political Suicide for the GOP
townhall.com ^ | July 11, 2008 | John Hawkins

Posted on 07/11/2008 8:00:49 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

There's a ridiculous myth that RINOs in DC have been spinning about illegal immigration and it goes something like this: Hispanics vote almost entirely based on the illegal immigration issue and if Republicans deliver an amnesty, Hispanics will be so grateful that the percentage of them voting Republican will go from roughly 30% up to 50+%.

So, even if we allow 12-20 million mostly uneducated, mostly Hispanic illegal aliens from socialist countries to become Americans and that leads to another 30-40 million (or more) of their relatives becoming U.S. citizens through chain migration, it'll still be a net gain for the GOP because they'll be voting majority Republican.

Laugh if you want, but there are "bubble Republicans" in D.C. that believe this. If they didn't, they certainly wouldn't be setting up a situation where the GOP could be demographically overwhelmed to such an extent via illegal immigration that we'd be forced to have a Democrat-lite agenda to keep ourselves from becoming a permanent minority party.

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1 posted on 07/11/2008 8:00:50 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY
“McCain Proves Amnesty is Political Suicide for the GOP”

Like that will stop him.

2 posted on 07/11/2008 8:02:55 PM PDT by Ratblaster ("White folks greed runs a world in need" B Hussein Obama The Muslim Magic Negro)
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3 posted on 07/11/2008 8:07:38 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Off balance sheet liabilities...they're not just for Enron anymore!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

But but but but amnesty is “moderate”. Anything less makes us appear “extremist” and “single issue”. You IDIOT! RINO’s are DOOMED! GOD HELP US!


4 posted on 07/11/2008 8:16:56 PM PDT by LiberConservative ("Typical" white guy)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

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5 posted on 07/11/2008 8:21:02 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Free ThinkerNY
they certainly wouldn't be setting up a situation where the GOP could be demographically overwhelmed to such an extent via illegal immigration that we'd be forced to have a Democrat-lite agenda to keep ourselves from becoming a permanent minority party.

That's the position the GOP believes we are already in and that's what they offer, McCain and Democrat lite. With 20+ million new, poor, uneducated, government dependent, Democrat voters, the Republican party, at least as far as national elections go, will functionally cease to exist.

6 posted on 07/11/2008 8:25:01 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: Cacique

If Hispanics felt that way the polls would be revealed that show them so.

The polls do not.

Most likely the polls are pushed this way, “Do you want illegals to be treated humanely?” Most would say yes, but still want them deported. The pro-amnesty propaganda of late, from McCain, for one, use the word “humanely” as a code word for Z visas and their ilk.


7 posted on 07/11/2008 8:25:39 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Free ThinkerNY
There's a ridiculous myth that RINOs in DC have been spinning about illegal immigration and it goes something like this: Hispanics vote almost entirely based on the illegal immigration issue and if Republicans deliver an amnesty, Hispanics will be so grateful that the percentage of them voting Republican will go from roughly 30% up to 50+%.

Name one politician, RINO or otherwise, that has alluded anything resembling that statement.

8 posted on 07/11/2008 8:31:29 PM PDT by Antonello (Oh my God, don't shoot the banana!)
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To: Shermy

Illegals not doing too bad...
Some States End Illegal Immigrant Tuition Break

Wed, 07/09/2008 - 11:04 — Judicial Watch Blog
Although ten states still grant illegal immigrants discounted public college tuition at U.S. taxpayer expense, many are beginning to reverse the outrageous and controversial policy which costs millions of dollars annually.

In the last few years four states—Arizona, Colorado, Georgia and Oklahoma—have created much-needed policies to refuse in-state college tuition at public institutions to those living in the country illegally. South Carolina recently became the first state to completely ban illegal alien students from all public colleges and North Carolina’s attorney general ordered its 58 community college campuses to stop enrolling illegal immigrants because admitting them violates federal law.

North Carolina’s attorney general is right. Federal law requires public elementary and secondary schools to enroll illegal immigrants but it prohibits illegal immigrants from obtaining tuition breaks that are not available to all United States citizens. Regardless, many states (California, Texas, Utah, Kansas, Washington and New York among them) continue to skirt the law by offering illegal immigrants the coveted perk.

In one highly publicized case, the courts actually sided with the violators. A group of American college students challenged the Kansas law granting cheaper in-state tuition to illegal immigrants, claiming the measure violates the 14th Amendment’s equal protection clause because it offers illegal immigrants a benefit they could not get.

The suit asked the federal courts to require that the state either eliminate the tuition benefit for illegal aliens or offer the same rate to all U.S. citizens, even those from other states. A federal judge in Topeka ruled against the students, saying that they failed to demonstrate the law had harmed them and the Denver-based 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals subsequently upheld the decision.

It marked one of many court defeats to the growing effort to curb illegal immigration and the devastating effect it has had on states and municipalities across the nation. Local governments continue to create policies to get the job done, however, in the absence of federal enforcement. Eliminating discounted tuition at the nation’s taxpayer financed institutions is a great step.


9 posted on 07/11/2008 8:33:01 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U
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To: Shermy
“Do you want illegals to be treated humanely?”

Of course I do. I'd like any who volunteer for deportation to be given a nice sack lunch and passage home to Mexico.

10 posted on 07/11/2008 8:50:44 PM PDT by Vigilanteman ((Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud))
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“There’s a ridiculous myth that RINOs in DC have been spinning about illegal immigration and it goes something like this: “

Yeah, and Jorge and Carlos and Juan’s believing and pushing that ridiculous myth have done tremendous damage to the Republican party, and they’re still at it.

Do any of these clowns ever ask themselves how the party went from perhaps its strongest position ever after the November, 2004 elections, to the weak state of the present? This stupid and unnecessary internal battle over amnesty is probably the biggest reason for that precipitous loss of power, but not the only one.


11 posted on 07/11/2008 9:30:10 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Suicide for the GOP??!! How about SUICIDE FOR THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.


12 posted on 07/11/2008 9:31:52 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (No Matter HOW Liberal/Socialist Scarface's WHITE HOUSE Becomes There Won't Be A Single "FREEP" Of It)
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To: Antonello

“Name one politician, RINO or otherwise, that has alluded anything resembling that statement. “

Karl Rove. That’s been his reason for pandering to Hispanics since Bush took office. And, add Bush to the list. That’s the reason for this entire fiasco: they think offering amnesty to illegals will win votes for Republicans.


13 posted on 07/11/2008 9:37:45 PM PDT by Will88
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To: rabscuttle385
McCain and fellow marriage-cheat/college-flunkie Ted Kennedy wrote a bill that would have effectively ended the USA in favor of a merged state with Mexico.

Thank goodness I live in a non-battleground state and don't even have to consider voting for this traitorous little man.

14 posted on 07/11/2008 9:39:47 PM PDT by Dagnabitt (McCain - Kennedy: A Bill to Abolish America.)
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This is a question for any mugwhore out there; Name me a nation in South or Central America that does not routinely elect communists. That being commonly known, how in bloody hell could anyone with two brain cells to rub together buy the BS that if the GOP ponies up amnesty, they have their own new slaves on their plantation? These illegals would just keep voting for the same crapweasles that they allowed to ruin the latrines formerly known as nations where they slithered north from.


15 posted on 07/11/2008 10:01:43 PM PDT by Grunthor (Mccain praised pro-illegal protests saying that they could force the laws to be liberalized)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
I agree. I have nothing against immigration, but in this post 9/11 world...if not for the necessity of law...it must be done in an organized manner. We must have order and a yearly quota. Overcrowded schools, hospitals and states going bankrupt, and rising crime are simply a disservice to every legal American. We must stand firm against amnesty. Photobucket
16 posted on 07/11/2008 10:49:14 PM PDT by xuberalles (The Best Anti-Liberal Novelties On The Net! http://www.cafepress.com/titillatingtees)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
No Republican is more closely associated with amnesty than John McCain. He was so heavily tied to the comprehensive immigration bill that was stopped in the Senate that many people called it the McCain/Kennedy bill.

Oh come on now. The bill was NOT AMNESTY!

(1)The illegal aliens have to pay a huge fine, and…

(2) They have to learn English.

Oh, wait. They only have to pay a teensy fine, but they still have to learn English.

Oops, they only have to sign up to take English, there is no exam.

Okay, the McCain/Kennedy bill was AMNESTY.

If Obama wasn't such an America-hating activist wanting to "change" my country into a collectivist Utopia, I would sit this election out.

17 posted on 07/11/2008 11:35:41 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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18 posted on 07/11/2008 11:37:26 PM PDT by gubamyster
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I am convinced that at this time the Republicans and Democrats (the Stupid Party and the Evil Party, respectively) are little more than two criminal enterprises fighting over who will get to dismantle and sell what is left of the United States to whichever foreign interest will pony up the loot. It’s a shame that both won’t lose.


19 posted on 07/11/2008 11:46:59 PM PDT by Pelham (Press 1 for English)
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It’s a shame that both won’t lose.

Yes, you are correct my FRiend.

I'll be voting for McCain.

I'll probably send some money

(I have 2 "kids" in uniform. I can't bear the thought of them having a Marxist Obama as CIC.)

Then, if McCain wins, and if he starts to do the RINO thing, we should consider a new nominee after 4 years. (Yeah, I know it's difficult to do.)

20 posted on 07/11/2008 11:58:20 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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