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Just the facts: LA law protects teachers who bring scientific evidence against Darwinism. . .
WORLD ^ | July 12, 2008 | Mark Bergin

Posted on 07/11/2008 8:06:50 AM PDT by rhema

A bill protecting the critical analysis of evolution by Louisiana public school teachers outraged committed Darwinists last month when it cruised through both houses of the state legislature with overwhelming bipartisan support. Not a single state senator voted against the Science Education Act and just three of 97 state representatives opposed it—this despite strong public relations campaigns condemning the legislation from several high-profile organizations and individuals.

In the wake of that crushing defeat, the rhetoric of the bill's opponents morphed into threats of costly lawsuits. The Louisiana Coalition for Science called the development an "embarrassment" and warned that it would attract "unflattering national attention." Barry Lynn, executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, said, "Louisiana taxpayers should not have their money squandered on this losing effort." Marjorie Esman, director of the local ACLU chapter, reminded supporters: "We're known for suing school boards."

What's all the fuss about? The Louisiana Science Education Act, which mirrors legislation receiving serious consideration in a handful of other states, protects the right of teachers and administrators "to create and foster an environment within public elementary and secondary schools that promotes critical thinking skills, logical analysis, and open and objective discussion of scientific theories being studied including, but not limited to, evolution, the origins of life, global warming, and human cloning."

In other words, the bill supports a more thorough examination of controversial topics, complete with scientific explanations as to why such areas of study spark controversy. Anticipating suspicions of ulterior motives, the legislation also includes a proscription against its misuse "to promote any religious doctrine, promote discrimination for or against a particular set of religious beliefs, or promote discrimination for or against religion or nonreligion."

Nevertheless, a New York Times editorial labeled the bill an "assault on Darwin" and compared it to the Louisiana legislature's effort to force biblical creationism into public classrooms in the 1980s. Barbara Forrest, a professor of philosophy at Southeastern Louisiana University and a founding member of the Louisiana Coalition for Science, called the legislation "a creationist bill written in creationist code language."

When WORLD reached Forrest by phone, she declined to comment. She stated in a press release that the bill's authors are creationists "using the same old tricks, but with new labels."

Darwinists have long sought to dismiss intelligent design (ID), an alternate theory of origins, as repackaged creationism. That strategy proved successful in a landmark court decision against a Dover, Pa., school board in 2005, when a federal judge declared ID inherently religious and its inclusion in the classroom therefore unconstitutional. But categorically dismissing critical analysis of evolution as equally unconstitutional is a far tougher sell—no doubt explaining why numerous states with critical analysis of Darwinism in their official science standards have yet to face legal challenge.

John West of the Discovery Institute, which advocates teaching the evidence for and against Darwinism, says the Louisiana Science Education Act and other similar bills stand on firmer legal ground than the unchallenged proscriptions for critical analysis in several states' science standards: "This bill does nothing to help a teacher promote religion in the classroom," he said. "Why is it unconstitutional for a teacher to point out that mutations are almost always harmful and in just a few cases neutral, which poses a huge problem if you believe all the major innovations in life were driven by a blind process of natural selection and random mutations? That answer is, it's not unconstitutional."

Some Darwinists recognize that. In a column for the American Chronicle, self-described atheist Jason Streitfeld urges support for the bill, which he says promotes "exactly what American students need: encouragement to think critically about controversial topics." Streitfeld further argues that "by reacting negatively to this bill, atheists and supporters of Darwinian evolutionary theory are proving their opponents right: they are acting like reason and the facts are not on their side."

West says the propensity of Darwinists to threaten lawsuits and scare teachers or districts out of critically analyzing evolution stems from an unwillingness to engage on scientific merits and betrays their vulnerability. The Science Education Act, which Democratic Sen. Ben Nevers originally proposed under the title Academic Freedom Act, signals teachers and districts that the state will back them should they choose to undertake a more thorough handling of controversial topics.

Opinion polls show large public majorities in many states favor teaching the evidence for and against Darwinism. Among science teachers, that support dips but remains significant enough to suggest the Louisiana Science Education Act and other bills like it will have a considerable impact on how students encounter evolution.

ACLU director Esman admits that if the law "works as it should, it shouldn't be a problem." But she worries that it may leave room "for things to get sneaked into the classroom that shouldn't be there." That suspicion is shared among many of the bill's detractors, who point out the religious motivation of such supportive groups as the Louisiana Family Forum, an evangelical organization with strong ties to Focus on the Family and the Family Research Council.

But supporters counter that many of the bill's opponents maintain strong atheistic commitments, a correlation given far less publicity or credence in major media reporting. Indeed, much of the public campaigning and calls to arms against the legislation played out on evolutionary biologist and popular science author Richard Dawkins' pro-atheist website. West contends that all such religious motivations for passing new laws are irrelevant in assessing the legality and value of the policy: "Should we repeal all the civil rights laws because lots of American Christians supported them? That's a preposterous argument. The most important thing is what the law actually says."

Letter of the law: Key elements of the Louisiana Science Education Act

Requires the state board of education to support the wishes of a local school board if it requests assistance in helping teachers and administrators promote critical analysis and open scientific discussion of theories related to evolution, origins of life, global warming, and human cloning.

Requires that such assistance from the state board include guidance for teachers in developing effective methods to help students analyze and critique scientific theories.

Requires that a teacher first present material in the school system's standard textbook before bringing in additional resources for further analysis and scientific critique.

Prohibits any promotion of religious doctrine or discrimination for or against religious beliefs, religion, or nonreligion.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: crevo; education; evolution
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1 posted on 07/11/2008 8:06:50 AM PDT by rhema
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To: rhema
They passed a law saying that it's OK to discuss science in a science class?

And the Evolutionists are upset? That's rich.

2 posted on 07/11/2008 8:10:37 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Et si omnes ego non)
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To: rhema
scientific evidence against Darwinism....

No such thing exists. Darwinism cannot be challenged, and it is utterly unfalsifiable. Anything claiming to be against Darwinism is automatically unscientific.

/sarc

3 posted on 07/11/2008 8:13:12 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Here they come boys! As thick as grass, and as black as thunder!)
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To: rhema

Why is it that the will of the people is always attacked with lawsuits?
Can’t win the hearst and minds of the people with logic common sense compromise etc.? No problem, Sue them into submission.....
Our court system has become a sick joke on the people....


4 posted on 07/11/2008 8:15:15 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Got Freedom ? Thank a Veteran...... Want to keep Freedom? Don't vote Obama)
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To: ClearCase_guy
They passed a law saying that it's OK to discuss science in a science class?

And the Evolutionists are upset? That's rich.

If anyone believes that this law was passed to promote science they are deluding themselves and lying to us.

This law was passed to promote religion, and more specifically, a narrow fundamentalist view of religion.

But what happens when the much vaunted "critical analysis" is applied to the claims of intelligent design, creation "science" and all the rest of the disguises under which fundamentalists have tried to promote their beliefs?

Teachers will be free to expose these efforts for the dishonest propaganda devices they really are, without fear of reprisals!

The law of unintended consequences strikes again.

5 posted on 07/11/2008 8:15:43 AM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: rhema
Shouldn't the expectation be that they bring evidence for creationism? This is not an either/or scenario. Bringing evidence that evolution may be flawed does not mean any other single theory is right by default. The goal should be demonstrating your theory is correct based on evidence and let it stand on that.
6 posted on 07/11/2008 8:16:48 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Coyoteman

This law was passed to promote religion, and more specifically, a narrow fundamentalist view of religion.

Thats bull. Prove it.


7 posted on 07/11/2008 8:21:17 AM PDT by scottdeus12 (Jesus is real, whether you believe in Him or not.)
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To: rhema
We don't have to hypothesize about what will happen, because it has already happened enough times that we can predict what will happen. In other words, we can use the scientific method to predict what will happen.

Someone, or a group of someones, will get carried away and step over the line in regards to what they are allowed to preach in class.

Then there will be a lawsuit, someone(s) will get fired, and the taxpayer will have pay for it all.

8 posted on 07/11/2008 8:21:19 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Coyoteman
the legislation also includes a proscription against its misuse "to promote any religious doctrine, promote discrimination for or against a particular set of religious beliefs, or promote discrimination for or against religion or nonreligion."

I'd be happy if just this part was enforced, regardless of the teaching of evo or ID.

Too much Secular Humanism and Atheism being taught in schools these days under the guise of "science".

9 posted on 07/11/2008 8:23:03 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: rhema

What interests me is that the same individuals who are worried that things might be sneaked into the classroom that shouldn’t be there seem to have no problem with homosexual activism or liberal climate propaganda in the classroom. Kids in public schools are drafted to be nuisances to their parents and community and save the world through light bulbs. Let teachers teach what is there. The evidence is hardly complete and the last word on the development of life on Earth as not been said. The conclusion of undirected design is not a scientific one it is a matter of belief. It can not be demonstrated in a laboratory. There is no harm in the belief in a higher order driving the development of life. It did not stop Newton, Galileo, Copernicus or any of the other great scientific minds who were also religious some radically so by today’s standards.


10 posted on 07/11/2008 8:23:18 AM PDT by Maelstorm (Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for yourself!)
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To: rhema
Spare me.

Informed scientific dispute is the province of informed scientists (by definition). Since when do teachers fall into that group? This is just another bullshit attempt to inject religious nonsense into the school system.

11 posted on 07/11/2008 8:23:33 AM PDT by liberallarry
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To: rhema

If you want to see the truth of what I said in my first post just think of how a bill to teach atheism would affair among supporters of this legislation.


12 posted on 07/11/2008 8:25:29 AM PDT by liberallarry
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To: Coyoteman
You said: "This law was passed to promote religion"

Perhaps you missed this summation:

protects the right of teachers and administrators "to create and foster an environment within public elementary and secondary schools that promotes critical thinking skills, logical analysis, and open and objective discussion of scientific theories

And perhaps you also missed the proviso specially stating that religion was not to be discussed as a result of this law.

You also said:"Teachers will be free to expose these efforts for the dishonest propaganda devices they really are, without fear of reprisals!"

A primary reason why school teachers do not discuss criticisms of Evolution is because people tend to find the criticisms quite convincing. When the pros and cons are both discussed, Evolution loses. Now, you can say that's because people are fools and do not understand the wonders of science, but when scientists lay out their theory and cannot explain the theory in a convincing way, it says something about the theory.

Richard Feynman said that if science is well understood, then it can be explained to a child. But he was talking about Physics. That's real science. Evolution is not in the same league as Physics.

13 posted on 07/11/2008 8:25:48 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Et si omnes ego non)
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To: rhema

Sooner or later somebody might develop a machine for viewing past events, and it might show God actually creating the world in seven days, 6000 years ago. My guess is that, IF that were to happen, these same “science” groups would be in court trying to ban the machine and pass laws forbidding anybody to show it to students.


14 posted on 07/11/2008 8:26:22 AM PDT by wendy1946
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To: rhema

Sooner or later somebody might develop a machine for viewing past events, and it might show God actually creating the world in seven days, 6000 years ago. My guess is that, IF that were to happen, these same “science” groups would be in court trying to ban the machine and pass laws forbidding anybody to show it to students.


15 posted on 07/11/2008 8:26:24 AM PDT by wendy1946
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To: Coyoteman
"Not a single state senator voted against the Science Education Act and just three of 97 state representatives opposed it—this despite strong public relations campaigns condemning the legislation from several high-profile organizations and individuals. "

The Great State of Louisiana just told you what you can do with your "so-called" science.

And I applaud them for it.

16 posted on 07/11/2008 8:26:25 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Good for Louisiana! (at least till some judge decides evolution is more important than democracy!)

Evolution has long ago morphed into an ideology, totally hostile to the idea of a creator and is often hostile to science itself, when any research challenges its’ dogma!

Modern day evolutionists are like a bunch of Communists/Fascists refusing to debate democracy because they contend democracy is “not a political system” (somehow they get to define the terms). Likewise they want to define the terms of “science” to fit their NARROW understanding, thus eliminating having to defend the weaknesses of their precious quasi-religious Darwin theory.


17 posted on 07/11/2008 8:26:44 AM PDT by FiddlePig (truth is hard... lies are easy - http://redneckoblogger.blogspot.com)
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To: Coyoteman

‘This law was passed to promote religion, and more specifically, a narrow fundamentalist view of religion.’

Your opinion.

There are many non-fundamentalists who welcome discussion and the free exchange of ideas...I’m one of them.

The promotion of critical discussions of controversial topics is a good thing.


18 posted on 07/11/2008 8:27:18 AM PDT by milford421 (U.N. OUT OF U.S.)
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To: DannyTN

This guy Jindal might have something to do with it. Louisiana appears to have turned some sort of a corner or something.


19 posted on 07/11/2008 8:27:41 AM PDT by wendy1946
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To: liberallarry

“This is just another b****t attempt to inject religious nonsense into the school system.”

Like I just asked coyoteman...prove it.


20 posted on 07/11/2008 8:29:55 AM PDT by scottdeus12 (Jesus is real, whether you believe in Him or not.)
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