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David Cameron tells the fat and the poor: take responsibility
The Times ^ | Tuesday, July 8, 2008 | Francis Elliott, Peter Riddell, Lorraine Davidson and Sam Coates

Posted on 07/09/2008 10:26:25 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

David Cameron declared yesterday that some people who are poor, fat or addicted to alcohol or drugs have only themselves to blame. He said that society had been too sensitive in failing to judge the behaviour of others as good or bad, right or wrong, and that it was time for him to speak out against "moral neutrality"... "We talk about people being 'at risk of obesity' instead of talking about people who eat too much and take too little exercise," he said. "We talk about people being at risk of poverty, or social exclusion: it's as if these things -- obesity, alcohol abuse, drug addiction -- are purely external events like a plague or bad weather... Mr Cameron attacked the notion that public figures should refuse to use concepts such as right and wrong and, signalling a harder edge to Tory policy making in the months to come, declared he would criticise people who brought misfortune on themselves... "Our relationships crack up, our marriages break down, we fail as parents and as citizens just like everyone else. But if the result of this is a stultifying silence about things that really matter, we redouble the failure.". ..Mr Cameron's speech came during a campaign visit to Glasgow East, where Labour is defending its third-safest seat in Scotland in a difficult by-election this month... The First Minister of Scotland predicted a "political earthquake" in the Glasgow East by-election. The SNP leader made his forecast as he launched his party's campaign. The Nationalists will need a 22 per cent swing to overturn Labour's majority of 13,507.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: conservativeparty; davidcameron; tories
David Cameron tells the fat and the poor: take responsibility

1 posted on 07/09/2008 10:26:26 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...

Election latest: David Cameron inflicts worst drubbing in 40 years
[Tories gain 200+ seats]
Times Online
Posted on 05/01/2008 7:35:06 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2010049/posts
82 posted on 05/02/2008 12:39:59 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2010049/posts?page=82#82

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2 posted on 07/09/2008 10:27:46 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: SunkenCiv

Am I to infer that the Conservatives have decided to abandon their little decade-long experiment in Labour-lite?


3 posted on 07/09/2008 10:31:16 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: SunkenCiv

Give ‘em ‘ell Dave!


4 posted on 07/09/2008 10:32:54 PM PDT by TheWasteLand
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To: SunkenCiv

hahahaha...good for him. It’s unclear to me what kind of friend Cameron would make for the USA, many Tories are as hostile to America as those in Labour. Still, his election will be a good thing for a Britain in mortal danger of losing its soul.


5 posted on 07/09/2008 10:34:46 PM PDT by americanophile
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To: SunkenCiv
"Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life."
6 posted on 07/09/2008 10:38:15 PM PDT by afortiori
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To: SunkenCiv
"Mr Cameron attacked the notion that public figures should refuse to use concepts such as right and wrong and, signalling a harder edge to Tory policy making in the months to come, declared he would criticise people who brought misfortune on themselves... "

Damn mean-spirited conservatives again.

7 posted on 07/09/2008 10:38:25 PM PDT by blam
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To: SunkenCiv

It’s great to hear this (I wish GWB would talk more like this). But keep in mind that the Conservatives lost their majority and plunged their country into ten years of Labour hell when, seemingly, every other Conservative MP was being caught with a rent-boy or someone else’s wife.

If we have another wave of bad behavior by the Conservatives, this kind of talk will come back to haunt them.


8 posted on 07/09/2008 10:51:27 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: SunkenCiv
David Cameron declared yesterday that some people who are poor, fat or addicted to alcohol or drugs have only themselves to blame.

While this may be true, it's also none of David Cameron's business, or wouldn't be if the UK didn't insist on socialized medicine. People have every right to over-eat or over-drink as they please, as long as they don't make others pay for their health care.
9 posted on 07/09/2008 10:52:00 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: SunkenCiv

Reality is harsh. Actions have consequences. A few decades ago, most would have shrugged his comments off as self-evident and rather bland. Today, those of us in the true reality-based community find such comments refreshing, encouraging, brave, and much needed. The concepts of personal responsibility, individual judgment, right vs wrong, and even stupid vs intelligent have become diluted to a point beyond recognition - the obvious, stated clearly, is almost profound. Very sad.


10 posted on 07/09/2008 11:01:01 PM PDT by M203M4 (True Universal Suffrage: Pets of dead illegal-immigrant felons voting Democrat (twice))
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To: SunkenCiv
“some people who are poor, fat or addicted to alcohol or drugs have only themselves to blame”

Go ahead and rub it in, so I'm fat, poor and shit faced while I'm on the Free Republic typing this in; so what's it to you?

God Dave, your acting is as if you can see me siting here naked doing this and your upset!

11 posted on 07/09/2008 11:11:34 PM PDT by Herakles (Diversity is code word for anti-white racism)
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To: Herakles

Hey, you don’t have to call me by my formal title...


12 posted on 07/09/2008 11:25:50 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: sinanju

Late last year Cameron told the very conservative wing of his party that the election campaign would be waged in the center.

Of course, I’m often reminded of this joke caption —

Margaret Thatcher: “In Britain we have the Labour Party, which in the United States would be called the Socialist Party, and we also have the Conservative Party, which in the United States would be called the Socialist Party.”


13 posted on 07/09/2008 11:28:31 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: SunkenCiv

The poor, fat and drunk were not amused...

14 posted on 07/09/2008 11:31:51 PM PDT by endthematrix (Congress, Get Off Your Gas, And Drill!)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

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Posted on 07/09/2008 11:34:09 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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15 posted on 07/09/2008 11:34:38 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: endthematrix

...poor, fat and drunk hardest hit...


16 posted on 07/09/2008 11:35:31 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: SunkenCiv

Jesse Jackson to David “cut your **** off too!”


17 posted on 07/09/2008 11:58:12 PM PDT by weegee (Hi there!)
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To: SunkenCiv
good or bad, right or wrong

Obsolete concepts. All human choices are totally neutral. No single choice is better or worse than any other. Cameron's outburst will not fly in the modern world. /s

18 posted on 07/10/2008 5:07:20 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: SunkenCiv
I think I like this guy!

Wonder if the left does? I'm just thinking that Oprah even said something recently to the effect of 'the choices you make in life determine what happens to you in the future'...I don't remember her exact wording.

19 posted on 07/10/2008 6:32:32 AM PDT by Amelia
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To: SunkenCiv

Ahh, but did he also lump the homosexual lifestyle as being one of the bad life choices?

Ironic how it’s worse to be a smoker or a fatty then a homo.


20 posted on 07/10/2008 8:30:14 AM PDT by HanneyBean
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