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The Second Amendment and Islamic law
Cross Action News ^ | 7-2-08 | Robert Spencer

Posted on 07/02/2008 4:32:08 AM PDT by Victory111

The Supreme Court’s ruling upholding the Second Amendment comes just as it has been revealed that in Iraq, Islamic jihadists have been forcing the Christians remaining in the country to pay jizya – the tax mandated in the Qur’an for non-Muslims who live under Islamic rule. And in Pakistan’s Northwest Frontier Province, the Taliban has been enforcing Islamic Sharia law by waving automatic weapons, forcing music stores to close down at the point of a gun (music is forbidden in Islamic law).

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amendment; banglist; court; iraq; iraqichristians; islam; jizya; persecution; second; shallnotbeinfringed; sharia; wot

1 posted on 07/02/2008 4:32:08 AM PDT by Victory111
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To: Victory111

Just more justification for me to spend my $600 wisely this weekend....

;-)


2 posted on 07/02/2008 4:35:44 AM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Let's Get Ready To Donate...............)
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To: Victory111

I believe that Iraqis already have the right to own a weapon for self defense.


3 posted on 07/02/2008 4:43:32 AM PDT by Soliton (Investigate, study, learn, then express an opinion)
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To: Victory111

As Yammamoto said, we can’t be conquered because there will be a gun behind every blade of grass. However, what he didn’t calculate on was us giving up our freedoms voluntarily. That’s how the jihadist want to take us over. Hoist us on our own petards...


4 posted on 07/02/2008 4:45:37 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Soliton
I believe that Iraqis already have the right to own a weapon for self defense.

Non-Mohammedans are not allowed to bear arms in Mohammedan societies.

5 posted on 07/02/2008 4:51:57 AM PDT by papertyger (Gun control laws make as much sense as giving condoms to a pregnant teen.)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

Not all of us.


6 posted on 07/02/2008 4:57:21 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: P8riot

jizya is payable in lead ;)


7 posted on 07/02/2008 5:05:11 AM PDT by xDGx
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To: Old Teufel Hunden; p8triot

No, not all of us are giving up our freedoms voluntarily.

We just have a small group of elitist leftist yahoos that think they deserve - nay, are obligated - to make our decisions for us and to remove our individualism and individual freedoms.

And then, we have a huge, nearly 50% of the population, that has been bought off with either the promise of free stuff from the government, or the promise that these elites will “punish” those who “got lucky” and are successful in our system.


8 posted on 07/02/2008 5:13:15 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: xDGx

Amen!


9 posted on 07/02/2008 5:19:01 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: MrB; p8triot
"We just have a small group of elitist leftist yahoos that think they deserve - nay, are obligated - to make our decisions for us and to remove our individualism and individual freedoms.

And then, we have a huge, nearly 50% of the population, that has been bought off with either the promise of free stuff from the government, or the promise that these elites will “punish” those who “got lucky” and are successful in our system."


While I would like to believe this. More and more I'm afraid this group is larger all the time. Due to the liberal mindset perpetrating our schools and mass media this is a growing group of people that feel they are "entitled" to many things.

When I read about the foot baths up in Minnesota it frightened me because that is only the beginning. We are going to be bombarded by more and more jihadist trying to force sharia law down our throats.

I'm esctatic that the majority of Americans think that ownership of firearms is an individual right. We (the armed citizenry or militia) need to ensure that we are well regulated (trained) in their use. I fear before my life is over there may come a time we have to defend our freedoms. I don't fear for myself because I know what camp I'm in. I fear that not enough people will be in our camp to defend those freedoms.
10 posted on 07/02/2008 5:22:27 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: papertyger
Non-Mohammedans are not allowed to bear arms in Mohammedan societies.

"Mohammedans?", I have only seen that word in older books. There are many Islamic countries. Each has their own gun laws. Sadaam's Iraq was a secular state and had strong gun laws prohibiting general ownership. Of course, after our invasion, everyone had guns. I read that at one point we were trying to take every gun, but agreed to leave one per man (or maybe household) for personal protection. If you have specific information about Iraq not allowing non"Mohammedans" guns, I'd love to see it.

11 posted on 07/02/2008 5:22:32 AM PDT by Soliton (Investigate, study, learn, then express an opinion)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
"When I read about the foot baths up in Minnesota it frightened me because that is only the beginning."
well then let's fight fire with fire....my feet could sure use a bath every now and then, and i could pray to the lord jesus while i bathe them...

12 posted on 07/02/2008 5:34:22 AM PDT by joe fonebone (The Second Amendment is the Constitutions reset button)
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To: Soliton
If you have specific information about Iraq not allowing non"Mohammedans" guns, I'd love to see it.

Change your predicate and we'll talk.

13 posted on 07/02/2008 5:42:22 AM PDT by papertyger (Gun control laws make as much sense as giving condoms to a pregnant teen.)
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To: Victory111
in Iraq, Islamic jihadists have been forcing the Christians remaining in the country to pay jizya – the tax mandated in the Qur’an for non-Muslims who live under Islamic rule

Yet another shameful result of Bush's disastrous decision to put Paul Bremer in charge of Iraq. We needed a MacArthur and Bush gave us a Dr. Phil. We needed a strong fist to forbid Sharia, and get the oil pumping again. Bush put in a pussy like Bremer instead.

14 posted on 07/02/2008 5:57:26 AM PDT by montag813
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To: Victory111

So our almost 1 trillion dollars have gone to prosecute Christians. The Bush legacy.


15 posted on 07/02/2008 6:05:33 AM PDT by BooksForTheRight.com (Fight liberal lies with knowledge. Read conservative books and articles.)
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To: Victory111

The following is adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond’s book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat:
Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system.
Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components. The religious component is a beard for all the other components.
Islamization occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their so-called ‘religious rights.’
When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agree to ‘the reasonable’ Muslim demands for their ‘religious rights,’ they also get the other components under the table. Here’s how it works (percentages source CIA: The World Fact Book (2007)).
As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness:
United States — Muslim 1.0%
Australia — Muslim 1.5%
Canada — Muslim 1.9%
China — Muslim 1%-2%
Italy — Muslim 1.5%
Norway — Muslim 1.8%
At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs:
Denmark — Muslim 2%
Germany — Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%
Spain — Muslim 4%
Thailand — Muslim 4.6%
From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population.
They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. ( United States ).
France — Muslim 8%
Philippines — Muslim 5%
Sweden — Muslim 5%
Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad &Tobago — Muslim 5.8%
At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.
When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions ( Paris –car-burnings). Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats ( Amsterdam - Mohammed cartoons).
Guyana — Muslim 10%
India — Muslim 13.4%
Israel — Muslim 16%
Kenya — Muslim 10%
Russia — Muslim 10-15%
After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:
Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%
At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:
Bosnia — Muslim 40%
Chad — Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%
From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:
Albania — Muslim 70%
Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%
Qatar — Muslim 77.5%
Sudan — Muslim 70%
After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:
Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
Egypt — Muslim 90%
Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
Iran — Muslim 98%
Iraq — Muslim 97%
Jordan — Muslim 92%
Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan — Muslim 97%
Palestine — Muslim 99%
Syria — Muslim 90%
Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%
100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace — there’s supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim:
Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
Somalia — Muslim 100%
Yemen — Muslim 99.9%
Of course, that’s not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons.
‘Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; and the tribe against the world and all of us against the infidel. – Leon Uris, ‘The Haj’
It is good to remember that in many, many countries, such as France, the Muslim populations are centered around ghettos based on their ethnicity. Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. Therefore, they exercise more power than their national average would indicate.


16 posted on 07/02/2008 6:18:50 AM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: BooksForTheRight.com
So our almost 1 trillion dollars have gone to prosecute Christians. The Bush legacy.

Oh, you noticed this also?

I guess W's idea of bringing "democracy" to Iraq ONLY applies to Moozies.

Is it just I, or have anyone else noticed the abslolute silence emanating from the Oval Office (Foggy bottom, which is infested with socialists and secular progressives, thus expected)Condi-Clueless, and sadly even our Military, regarding the "genocidal" practice against Christians in Iraq and our UNWILLINGNESS to even mention it, much less insist on religious freedom be observed--OR ELSE?

Oh no, just like W has completely ignored the myriad of atrocities and terrorist activities by his "guy" Abbas and his PA and only put pressure on Israel, in order to try and secure a legacy, he has taken the same hands off approach regarding the Mooslimbs attacks on Christians in Iraq, less he "offend" the Islamist.

When I hear about this, it gives me pause as to what the outcome of this war will be if we manage to stabilize that shit-hole and rid it of foreign insurgents, only to have it turn into another Islamofacist Afganistan-type theocracy.

17 posted on 07/02/2008 6:27:17 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet ((One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All))
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To: verga

bump


18 posted on 07/02/2008 6:29:24 AM PDT by Dinah Lord (fighting the Islamofascist Jihad - one keystroke at a time...)
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To: Victory111

later.


19 posted on 07/02/2008 7:02:58 AM PDT by Jaded ("I have a mustard- seed; and I am not afraid to use it."- Joseph Ratzinger)
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