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The War Over Offshore Wind Is Almost Over (Ted Kennedy is deeply saddened)
Business Week ^
| 30 June 08
| Adam Aston
Posted on 06/30/2008 1:59:21 AM PDT by saganite
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While I'm glad Ted Kennedy will now get to view the greening of America in person I'm dismayed by the amount of bureaucracy this company had to endure to build windmills. If anyone expects our govt to find a way out of the energy crisis this story should serve as an object lesson.
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posted on
06/30/2008 1:59:21 AM PDT
by
saganite
To: saganite; All
I just wished or wish that some Hollywood Maverick filmmaker would make a movie about this saga. They would be able to point out the sheer hypocrisy of the type of people who live in the Cape Cod Area. The type of people who live in this area and supported energy projects in other areas but not in their backyard are trash of the worst type in my opinion. This fellow Gordon is a national hero for what he has endured. I just wish somebody out there would make that movie. Any of you freepers know any bold filmmakers?
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posted on
06/30/2008 2:33:16 AM PDT
by
truthguy
(Good intentions are not enough!)
To: truthguy
I wouldn’t call him a hero. He’s building govt subsidized windmills but he has shown fortitude when he could have hung it up long ago. If anything, this story serves as an object lesson in the hypocrisy of the so called environmentalists who promote green energy and turn around and oppose it when it’s inconvenient.
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posted on
06/30/2008 2:37:44 AM PDT
by
saganite
To: saganite
The environmental studies necessary for an oil field are just as excessive—and in some areas you can throw in archaeological impact studies, too!!
To: saganite
In the former Soviet Union, the party bosses, bigwigs and soviet bureaucrats were afforded special privileges and got a pass in obeying laws forced on the serfs. They shopped at special stores maintained just for themselves, built dachas and ate the finest foods while cannabalizing the people’s wealth at the point of a gun.
The liberal elites infesting our country are no different - rules are for the little people. About all that’s missing in Nantucket and the Vinyard are fat party generals wearing medals the size of saucers hanging down to their knees. This country is long overdue for a good house sweeping.
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posted on
06/30/2008 3:05:25 AM PDT
by
sergeantdave
(We are entering the Age of the Idiot)
To: saganite
Somewhere, Howell Heflin is asking...”Oh, Lord. It’s bad enough Ted’s drillin’ offshore. You mean he’s fartin’ too?”
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posted on
06/30/2008 3:07:56 AM PDT
by
RichInOC
(No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
To: saganite
Last week, I flew over the North Sea-and noticed a real dichotomy. The first item of interest was an area that had about 50 oil tankers positioned just sw of the oil fields. about a mile or two north of these tankers was a wind farm, with about 100 giant windmills. I thought to myself, the “battle of electricity!”
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posted on
06/30/2008 3:14:57 AM PDT
by
richardtavor
(Pray for the peace of Jerusalem in the name of the G-d of Jacob)
To: sergeantdave
The liberal elites infesting our country are no different - rules are for the little people. About all thats missing in Nantucket and the Vinyard are fat party generals wearing medals the size of saucers hanging down to their knees. This country is long overdue for a good house sweeping. You think that is bad, just wait until we have Socialized Medicine. The elites will get the very best of care and have transplant organs available on demand. Meanwhile, you and I will have to rely on some barefoot doctor imported from China.
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posted on
06/30/2008 3:29:00 AM PDT
by
gridlock
(Al Gore wants YOU to live like the Flintstones while HE lives like the Jetsons.)
To: saganite
Part of the insanity in developing any substantial project is the environmentally oriented ‘studies’. There are usually a multitude of them and each costs hundreds of thousands of dollars. Occasionally one of these studies finds something that could affect the project, but usually they are just impediments, boilerplate crap that do nothing except add to the expense and the completion time of the project. Here is a funny thing, many times you could ask the original property owner if there was anything amiss on the land.
A few years ago our school board voted to locate a new elementary building at a particular location. Just about 230 large was spent on the environmental study which found that the site was riddled with small caves and holes in the substrate making the site unsuitable for a building. The board members were happy the report found the potential problem but became dismayed when it was brought up that the rancher who owned the land had pointed out the caves in a newspaper interview.
So, like all of these studies, this one ends up in a safe somewhere never to be looked at again.
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posted on
06/30/2008 3:42:05 AM PDT
by
ByteMercenary
(9-11: supported everywhere by followers of the the cult of islam.)
To: saganite
It’d be nice if they name the project “The Kennedy Windfarm” and he gets to live long enough to enjoy the view.
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posted on
06/30/2008 3:42:21 AM PDT
by
NewHampshireDuo
(Earth - Taking care of itself since 4.6 billion BC)
To: richardtavor
The real irony is that each of those oil tankers holds enough energy to produce 10-20 times the amount of energy as that windfarm. Those 100 windmills can each produce about 3.5 megawatts at peak efficiency but traditionally they operate at about 30% of peak. Since those were offshore they are probably somewhat more efficient and perhaps operate at 40% efficiency. That’s les than 150 megawatts or about 1/10th to 1/20th the power of an average powerplant.
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posted on
06/30/2008 4:05:07 AM PDT
by
saganite
To: saganite
The cost of windfarm cosntruction is proportional to the cost of crude oil. By delaying the Cape Cod windfarm project, Kennedy has ensured that it will cost about three times more to erect those 130 windmills than it would have 5 years ago.
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posted on
06/30/2008 4:09:30 AM PDT
by
NRG1973
To: saganite
We in the Boston area have the highest electricity rates in the country.So wind power generation around here is a great thing.And the fact that it pi$$es off phony,mult-millionaire “environmentalists” like Teddy,Cronkite and Carly Simon is just icing on the cake.
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posted on
06/30/2008 4:30:15 AM PDT
by
Gay State Conservative
(The problem with the rat race is,even if you win you're still a rat.)
To: sergeantdave
"
... This country is long overdue for a good house sweeping."
Broom at the ready.
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒE
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posted on
06/30/2008 4:40:14 AM PDT
by
G.Mason
(Duty, Honor, Country)
To: saganite
After having driven through the largest concentration of wind turbines on the continent (the Pincher Creek complex.. see this
link) I can honestly tell you that for the amount of power generated (about 1/16 of installed capacity, in the windiest place on the continent), these things are the very definition of unsightly!
I spent some money to travel to and see the Rockie mountains, as I currentlylive on the coast. While the pittance I spent on my vacation (last month)is less than chump change to members of our ruling class, it still means a LOT to me.
I was VERY unhappy to see these tall "bird cuisinarts" overshadowing the majesty and beauty of the mountains. The Rockies are a true natural wonder, and to be upstaged by such a trite and shallow work of man is tragic.
I am NOT a Luddite, but there is a place for pipe dreams. That place is most emphatically NOT between the view of travellers and God's most magnificent work.
To think I seriously considered these wind turbine things on *MY* farm horrifies me!
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posted on
06/30/2008 4:42:43 AM PDT
by
Don W
(To write with a broken pencil is pointless.)
To: Don W
I too have some sprung up in my hometown of Meyersdale and Somerset Pennsylvania. Some of the first prototypes.
And I can not tell you, and the people here, how breathtaking they are. I LOVE them.
Quiet, sci-fi, awe-inspiring. To see a visual representation of power consumption is always stunning. They look very ... “Carl Saganesque”.
I welcome them.
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posted on
06/30/2008 5:00:52 AM PDT
by
Celerity
To: saganite
Ah, those filthy stinkin’ rich. You can always count on them to screw over the average Joe.
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posted on
06/30/2008 5:04:43 AM PDT
by
Wolfie
To: saganite
To: saganite
The wind off the coast of the Kennedy compound is reserved for the express purpose of pushing million dollar sailing yachts around for amusement of the idle rich.
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posted on
06/30/2008 5:09:48 AM PDT
by
CrazyIvan
(If you read only one book this year, read "Stolen Valor".)
To: Celerity
It’s nice to see someone willing to try to take a different perspective on things. I like them too. They are certainly more attractive than cell phone towers!
I guess NIMBYism runs the political gamut: Ted, Mitt, even some FREEPers. Welcome to “can’t do” America.
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posted on
06/30/2008 5:18:31 AM PDT
by
MoreGovLess
(The USA has one main political party: the Kleptocrats)
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