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1 posted on 06/26/2008 2:02:09 PM PDT by blam
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My mother said that Gypsies steal babies.


2 posted on 06/26/2008 2:04:07 PM PDT by blam
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Good, I was in Rome last summer and the Gypsies were just horrible. They need to clean up the whole city.


3 posted on 06/26/2008 2:04:38 PM PDT by AntiKev ("The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena." - Carl Sagan)
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Sadly, many of them are brought up to steal. They’ve ripped off people I know, and they prey on tourists. Blame their parents if you don’t like it, not the responsible Italians who are trying to protect the public.


4 posted on 06/26/2008 2:05:25 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Isolationism and pacifism: the soft underbelly of American freedom.)
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The implant chips will follow soon enough.


5 posted on 06/26/2008 2:08:22 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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I have never been to Italy, but a large portion of my family is there and the multitude of stories I’ve heard about the gypsies are nothing short of horrendous.


6 posted on 06/26/2008 2:08:36 PM PDT by Grandsons of Liberty (Revolutionaries for the 21st Century)
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White racists used to say, and I guess still do say, that blacks are all thieves, based upon their disproportionate participation in crime.

Of course, Blacks are not thieves. They traditionally suffered from a lack of opportunity, and, later, from the breakdown of the family caused by LBJ.

In the case of the Gypsies, though, is it not correct that in fact stealing is the culture? That parents and grandparents alike are thieves, and hope to raise good little thieves? That is, that they raise their kids to steal as much as others hope for their children to be doctors or lawyers?

Please, I am not stating that as fact. But, I have read quite a bit which suggests it is true.


7 posted on 06/26/2008 2:09:08 PM PDT by Ron Jeremy (sonic)
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Not a bad idea. Aside from the fact that many of these kids are trained to be thieves from birth, they are also often themselves the victims of various schemes (run by their own families) that ship them around within the country and to other countries, where they are put out to beg or commit crimes for other members of their extended families.


8 posted on 06/26/2008 2:09:19 PM PDT by livius
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Good move. Enough already!

I’ve been robbed twice in my life so far and both times in Europe and both times by gypsies.


9 posted on 06/26/2008 2:11:21 PM PDT by eleni121 (EN TOUTO NIKA!! +)
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When UNICEF comes down on something, you can generally take it for granted that it is on the wrong side.

I wonder if folks in other nations are as sick of the U.N. and UNICEF as we are.


10 posted on 06/26/2008 2:11:29 PM PDT by DoughtyOne ( I say no to the Hillary Clinton wing of the Republican party. Not now or ever, John McCain...)
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I’ve had two actual experiences with gypsies. When we were in Ericeira, Portugal, with the kids one summer there was a gypsy encampment nearby. Everyone said to watch out, because they would steal anything that wasn’t nailed down, and I think they knew what they were talking about.

The other was the experience of our English cousins in a village near Bath. A bunch of gypsies took down a gate and moved into the woods on the edge of their property. In typical English fashion the law protected them from being ejected. There was no legal recourse. Fortunately they eventually decided to move on.


11 posted on 06/26/2008 2:11:47 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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I’m not saying that our illegal immigrant problem is like that of the gypsies, but can you imagine if the US tried to take prints of all illegals?

One could hear the howls of protest all the way to Italy.


12 posted on 06/26/2008 2:12:02 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Yo prometo lealtad a la bandera de los Estados Unidos de America, y a la Republica que representa...)
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It’s about time. The parents use these children to steal people blind and it’s almost impossible to stop this trafficking in stolen goods through children. The rob people in broad daylight in front of witnesses and run. Gangs of children will attack a single person and strip them of everything of value. Before this step, the children were let off scot-free and the organizers of these crimes, mother and father, were never prosecuted.


13 posted on 06/26/2008 2:18:11 PM PDT by WashingtonSource
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Gypsies had always had received rap from history. It as a legacy they earned by their own accords. They themselves are often their own worse enemy, Until all gypsy community clean up their own act they will always be unwanted. I have seen them in Germany, Bosnia, and a few other places.

The US has it share of Gypsies, The Irish Travelers are the most notorious.


14 posted on 06/26/2008 2:18:31 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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Last September, we stayed just south of Rome near the Via Appia. The home that we lived in had more locks on the doors and bars on the windows than I have ever seen before. The complex had a sturdy entrance gate and each home had a similar gate at the end of the driveway connected to 8’ walls with broken glass in the concrete top of the wall. All this security made us uncomfortable but when we asked the owners about it they told us some very disturbing stories that had happened in their complex and to them. For the rest of the time we were there, we felt only slightly inconvenienced by having to lock ourselves in at night. The gypsies are a very big problem in the Rome area and anyone they see is fair game to be robbed and assaulted. Most of those people are thieves. No wonder these extreme measures are being considered.
16 posted on 06/26/2008 2:25:23 PM PDT by BatGuano
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The only Gypsies I ever met were thieves. Fingerprinting them is a great idea.


18 posted on 06/26/2008 2:28:13 PM PDT by agere_contra
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Why can’t Italy just crack down on crime?

Criminal behavior is the problem. Prove and punish it.

Suspicion may fall disproportionately on some groups that have a history of criminality. In the U.S., one ought to look at young muslim men more carefully at airports. In Italy, the police may wish to concern themselves with Gypsies.

But even if criminality is rampant in an ethnic or other group, one should still presume innocence. The vast majority of young muslim guys at the airport are on business trips. The vast majority of Roma are going about their daily lives not stealing.

That virtually all terrorist attacks are perpetrated by young muslim males doesn’t mean the suspension of individual liberty for them compared to others. It just means they’ll be watched more carefully. That’s logical, protective of everyone else, and doesn’t infringe on their rights.

We shouldn’t, however, round up all the young muslim men of the country and fingerprint them. “They might be taken to a madrassah and trained to be terrorists!” would be the equivalent logic as the Italians are employing. That’s wrong. Group guilt does not exist, in my opinion. Group punishment is immoral. Using the force of the state to preemptorily tag (fingerprint, chip implantation, yellow star armbands, etc.) certain groups as having a predeliction for criminality is wrong.

While a majority of terrorists are Muslims, and a majority of thieves in Italy may be Roma, that doesn’t mean the majority muslims are terrorists, or the majority of Roma are thieves.

It may even be that a majority of muslims support terror. I’ve seen where 38% of British Muslims believe they should kill a Jew when they find one. Nonetheless, that doesn’t mean Britain should put implant WiFi chips in the b*tts of every Muslim. Neither should Italy fingerprint all Roma children.


19 posted on 06/26/2008 2:28:51 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (McCain / Kerry '08! ************* McCain's Dream Ticket, only the names have been reversed)
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Gypsies are one class of people who are truly scum.


21 posted on 06/26/2008 2:29:07 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Democrats spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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This is about illegal immigration and the government’s attempt to crackdown on it.


25 posted on 06/26/2008 2:32:39 PM PDT by kabar
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The more things change.....


36 posted on 06/26/2008 2:47:34 PM PDT by Will_Kansas
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So much for "NO TO RACISM." (Soccer fans will understand.)

ML/NJ

38 posted on 06/26/2008 2:49:13 PM PDT by ml/nj
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