EXCLUSIVE: Video shows police beating at 201 Poplar (Policeman fired)

WMC ^ | June 18, 2008 | WMC

[jmc813]

Pretty broad brush there.

My dad is a retired cop with 30 years on the force and even he agrees that almost every cop uner the age of 30 these days suffers from SDS.

[rogue yam]

I just watched the video. It doesn’t look as bad as the article makes it sound. The perp admits to resisting the officer. Some force was necessary. Was there too much applied? I can’t say.

[reagan_fanatic]

I agree the issue is one of abuse of power, which is why I said I hope that cop (and the others involved in this beating) get fired. My description of the transvestite stands.

[SFC MAC]

“I couldn’t breathe, and they just made me lay there,” Johnson said. “Nobody checked to see if I was okay. My eyes were burning. My skin was burning. I was scared to death. Even the nurse came in and she just ignored me, and I begged her to help me.”

“He never writes...He doesn’t call....the bastard...”

[Para-Ord.45]

Ted Nugent Stormtroopin’ :

In the early morning hours there’s a din in the air;
mayhem’s on the loose.
Stormtroopers comin’, and you better be prepared.
Got no time to choose.

Get ready. Stormtroopers comin’.

Comin’ up that street, jackboots steppin’ high.
Got to make a stand.
Looking in your windows and listen to your phone.
Keep a gun in your hand.

[Tired of Taxes]

Your comment is akin to saying “As _____ (fill in the blank) as the Jews were, they didn't deserve to be gassed in ovens”.

“As ignorant and stupid as Christians are, they don’t deserve.........”

The two of you are equating criminal behavior with religious faith. The person was arrested for committing a crime. RF's comment was more in line with comments like: "As _____ (fill in the blank) as the prostitute/carjacker/burglar/murderer is, he/she didn't deserve to be beaten like that."

RF's comment was perfectly acceptable.

[Filo]

Really? Pretty broad brush there.

Not really.

First we have the a-holes who actually commit these crimes.

Then there are the numerous other a-holes who ignore them, look the other way, pretend it's justified, etc.

Then we have the a-holes who will defend the former two sets of a-holes just because they are fellow cops.

By the time we've tallied up that ever-growing list we've covered far more than half the cops in uniform.

Add to them the various enabling police administrators and other police employees (such as the do-nothing nurse from the story) and you've more than justified eliminating the entire festering pustule that is American policing.

In the end the brush doesn't seem nearly broad enough.

[Resolute Conservative]

So is it safe to assume that you feel all white people are racists, all rich people are snobs, all poor people are dumb, all black people are in gangs, all women are wh_res, all men are abusers, etc...

Seems pretty broad to me unless you apply your standard across the board.

One too many tickets eh? If not what makes your view of that group so tainted when in reality only a very, very small number of police officers are ever accused of doing something illegal or abusive.

[Psycho_Bunny]

You’re making a specious argument. The crime is not relevant to the behavior of the officer. And I was not equating anything but changing the context of the statement to make a point about the poor form of the initial comment.

[NucSubs]

Bingo. "Andy Griffith is not cool. I want black combat boots and a tricked out Dodge Charger baby!"

[B-Chan]

Yes, these two cops are beating this poor person up because she’s a trannie. I don’t “get” transsexualism myself, but I don’t have to: it’s a free country, after all, and none of my beeswax. I’m not aware of any law against being a transsexual; last I heard, people are free to express their sexual nature in any lawful way they choose. Besides, the cops have no right to beat any suspect, especially not one that is seated and unarmed.

Of course, the transsexuality is just a side issue here. The real reason they’re kicking this person’s ass is because she “difrefpected dem in dey own howse”. The cops in most cities are nothing more than a legally-sanctioned street gang — and, as do all gangsters, gangster cops infist on being “refpected”. Any perceived “diss” is grounds for a good, old-fashioned lesson in Who’s The Boss.

However. unlike real street thugs, the cops have badges and the legal authority to beat, gas, and kill you.

Don’t get me wrong. I’m strictly a Law & Order kind of guy. The society I’d prefer to live in would be more like Singapore, complete with floggings and the noose for wrongdoers. However, in my opinion many American police officers are obstacles to law and order rather than its preservers. I have seen (and experienced) cops acting this way far too often during my own life — and I know many people who have seen and experienced bad cop behavior as well.

It’s not that I’m a cop hater. A good cop is as close to a real-life superhero as you’ll ever find. But for every selfless Sheriff Andy Taylor out there “protecting and serving” the public, there are a hundred f——p Barney Fifes roaming the streets looking to prove what a badass they are by using their shirt-pocket bullet on you.

We do not need police as they currently exist. The Blue Gangs of ex-high-school bullies and ‘roided-out psycho jocks we have now hurt the people more than they help. Instead, we need an unarmed civilian neighborhood watch à la Sir Bobby Peel, backed up by a professionalized, semi-military gendarmerie. By keeping civilian cops unarmed, and by restricting the use of force to professionally trained officers under UCMJ-like military discipline, we can hope to curtail crime — both street crime and the crimes committed by the police themselves.

[NucSubs]

My experience with cops I am acquainted with confirms your evidence.

[PLMerite]

“...and a tricked out Dodge Charger baby!”

Is there really a Charger Police Package or are they just overtaxing the regular civilian version?

[NucSubs]

http://technorati.com/videos/youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DTSzmjqZw9rk

[PLMerite]

Cool. But that’s aftermarket stuff. I was thinking heavy-duty suspension, brakes, tranny cooler, alternator, etc., not to mention a beefier engine.

I had an old Chevy Nova Police Package; by the time that thing finally died it had 250k miles on it.

[rogue yam]

Besides, the cops have no right to beat any suspect, especially not one that is seated and unarmed.

Did you watch the video?

The cops have the right to demand that an arrestee stand up and move over to the fingerprinting station. If the arrestee refuses then the cops have the right to force the arrestee to comply with their lawful order. If the arrestee strikes the officer then the cops have a right to forcefully subdue the now combative arrestee.

Are you certain, based on all of the evidence, that this is not what happened here?

[Filo]

So is it safe to assume that you feel all white people are racists, all rich people are snobs, all poor people are dumb, all black people are in gangs, all women are wh_res, all men are abusers, etc...

Don't play the stupid straw-man game with me.

I told you how I came to my conclusion. If you can cite for me a compelling number of incidents where a cop did something like this and was restrained or even arrested by other cops maybe I'll change my tune a little, but I sincerely doubt you'll ever find such evidence.

Usually it's more like "well, the other guy was shooting into the car so I emptied my magazine also. . ."

These incidents are way too numerous to be mere aberrations.

Seems pretty broad to me unless you apply your standard across the board.

And who says I don't?

One too many tickets eh?

I haven't had a ticket or accident in over a decade.

Any more silly assumptions?

If not what makes your view of that group so tainted when in reality only a very, very small number of police officers are ever accused of doing something illegal or abusive.

Because your very, very small number is actually quite a bit larger. Add to that number the even larger number of incidents that never get reported and you've got more than enough to piss off your average "civilian."

And, again, it's not just the cops who break the law and abuse the public, it's the much larger number of cops who shield and protect them when they do.

Once you factor those folks in you've gone well beyond a "very, very small number" and broken well into the majority of cops.

[Dr.Zoidberg]

The Nuge does have a way with words.

[Resolute Conservative]

Well... okay then, sad for you. There seems to be much about LEO internal workings that you obviously do not know about.

[Dr.Zoidberg]

Wouldn’t matter if they did have the dead zones mapped out.

Rage control issues coupled with a sense of superiority and Officer Friendly isn’t going to be able to suppress his desire to stomp on someone who dissed him. You don’t show sufficient deference to the badge and you’re going to bleed. And it’s becoming more common every day.

It’s like gang culture really.