Posted on 06/17/2008 3:24:21 AM PDT by Man50D
When a Christian pastor in Canada wrote a commentary on the Bible's perspective on homosexuality, a government commission ordered him to renounce his faith and apologize. When a family owned photography studio in New Mexico refused, on religious grounds, to take pictures at a same-sex ceremony, the fine for such "discrimination" was $6,600. Now the experts say Colorado is joining in the repression of the practice of Christianity.
"Getting beyond the bathroom and locker room issue, the biggest danger this law poses is to the religious or moral consciences of small business owners who may object to doing business with people whose lifestyle they do not want to promote," Bruce Hausknecht, a spokesman with Focus on the Family, told WND about Colorado's new law, SB200.
WND reported earlier when the chief of Focus on the Family, James Dobson, criticized Gov. Bill Ritter for signing the law because of its dangerous implications for anyone who provides a "public accommodation" because they no longer will be able to discriminate based on sexual orientation or even "perception."
"Who would have believed that the Colorado state legislature and its governor would have made it fully legal for men to enter and use women's restrooms and locker-room facilities without notice or explanation?" Dobson said at the time.
(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...
It is really scary that these “Human Rights” commissions now have the ability to levy fines. I was aware they had such powers in other countries (Canada), but not this one.
“The homosexual movement has nothing to to with the rights of homosexuals. It is one of many methods to attack the foundation of the country, the family with the goal to replace our Representative Democracy with socialism/communism.”
There is far more than that going on. Since at the latest Clinton’s unprovoked attack on Serbia and to this very day, it has been the policy of the United States government to set up (through violent attack) and support politically, financially and militarily, Islamic states which have as matters of policy the destruction of Christianity. Our problems extend miles beyond a few fairies getting “married” in a state here and there.
So much for the so called first ammendment rights.
Is there source for this besides wnd, that actually shows the order?
If we don’t stand up for who we are, we won’t be anybody or anything.
In my job I deal with the various Human Rights Commissions of the various states. Believe me when I tell you they are out of control. They are staffed by little Bundists whose idea of self-worth is directly proportional to their unbridled lust for power. To call them demagogues is to elevate the word to a status it never intended.
Well said.
Every now and then I think that if things get bad enough here in the US, I will at least be able to flee to a country like Canada or Australia, but then I read stories like this.
Canada cannot really be characterized anymore as part of the free world.
They are a large part of the lefts movement to transform the social fabric. They are relentless and sadly many are completely oblivious to the movement.
PERCEPTION? I perceive myself to be tall and handsome but the reality is that I am not.... How does my perceiving so, make it real, make it something legal? These Politicians are insane. How are they getting electing into office? What is wrong with us for allowing it? I thought this was America not France............
These laws will be misused the way RICO was misused against abortion protesters.
Libs don’t have jobs or families the way conservatives do and have alot more time/resources to start frivolous suits.
When will, we the people, demonstrate outrage constructively? So far we have whined; yet complied. The libs have been successful because of our lack of courage to stand up loudly against the evil of this world. I’m singing to the choir, I know; but any ideas of how to start a ‘we’ve had enough’ campaign. We can burn a flag but we can’t say God. We can’t drill because Greenpeace says so and the list goes on.....
Come on people, wake up! It’s time to stand together and take whatever steps are necessary to reverse the wickedness that our lethargy has authorized to spawn. Where homosexuality flourishes, all manner of wickedness abounds.
Don’t allow yourself to be deceived any longer. These activists are not morally upright citizens, concerned about the best interests of our society. They are perverse, self-centered and morally deprived individuals who are spreading their psychological disease into every area of our lives. Homosexual rights activists and those that defend them, are just as immoral as the pedophiles, drug dealers and pimps that plague our communities. [My emphasis.]
I am afraid to say I find this extremely nasty. But as the old line goes, I would fight to the death to defend his right to say that. Thank goodness for our First Amendment right to freedom of speech!
Why do you find the pastor’s comments nasty? They seem right on to me.
I kid you not
I friend see’s a therapist , anyway after the appointment I pick her up and she gives me a note.
we get to dunkin donuts and I read the note and it is a graph stating where a person thinks they are , ie.e suicifdal , happy, extreme depression etc etc
well I nearly went red after reading it
it stated that if you believe in religion that you are severly mental and that maybe you need to be in hospital.
I drop her off and get home, straight away I call this therapist and of course this person has not returned any calls as of yet, I will however try again later.
So iin a lib mind a man can poke another man in the arse, a woman can pretend she is a man and wear a strap on
yet if you believe in God you need to be in hospital
To think these people are trying to brainwash our chiuldren and adults who have depression or seek a bit of help.
If anyone knows where I can report this please let me know, I have the paper she gave me around somewhere as well
my above post was quickly typed so I am sorry for the errors of spelling, though I am sure you get the idea of what I am asking and saying
I think it goes too far to compare homosexuals with predatory criminals such as pedophiles and drug dealers.
It’s amazing how they play w/someone’s mind who seeks out help. Not everyone shares their therapy sessions and therapists know that - so it’s a perfect opportunity for mind control/propaganda. Thank God she is open with you. This therapist must be licensed, so, perhaps, the licensing board maybe a good start? Since they are vehemently against God; it’s obvious God is the answer.
He is right on target!
It’s all evil. Trouble is there isn’t many or any standing against all this evilness. PC has been in vogue too long and when truth is spoken - it’s viewed as nasty or harsh! With that perception, the libs/evil won!
I think someone just shot the Left in the butt.
Start by getting her away from that therapist, pronto! Cancel the appointments. No contact, period.
Virtually all states require a license in order to be a therapist. Check out the licensing board for your state and file a complaint there.
While therapists are not required to acknowledge God or religion in their therapy -- and while acknowledging that there really are patients who do take "religion" to the point of mental illness (self-mutilation, forgoing food and water, psychosis, and self-destructive behavior) -- treating any and all "religion and believe in God" as though it is "a mental illness" is beyond all reason and completely unprofessional. This shrink has got their own personal agenda and bitch with God that they are transferring to their patients -- and that is extremely unprofessional!
I agree -- especially given that most pedophiles (by a mile), are heterosexual.
Agreed, you definitely need to report that. That “shrink” should have his/her license taken away.
It is almost over, isn’t it??
These ARE the VERY last days indeed.
already in the process
she also told me that when she first went she was given a link to move on. org about a petition on medical care.
Just goes to show that not only are the radical left trying to get to our children but they are also trying to take advantage with those who are down at the moment due to unforeseen circumstances.
So they try to shut down talk radio, try to shut down Fox news and make laws through the liberal judges and they say it is us who are trying to impose our views.
homosexuals count for around 5% of the population yet over 60% of serial killers are homosexual including the worst 6 in this country.
slightly down the page is the killers names and their homosexual tendencies
http://www.adherents.com/misc/hsk.html
AS for child molesters then do you have numbers on that and if so does the numbers take into effect men molesting boys or women molesting girls?
My education and degrees are in Behavioral Science, although I don't practice in the field. I recall these numbers from my school days. I'd have to look the specific research up, and to be blunt, it's too sick for me to even want to research it right now.
As for "serial killers", I am not sure where you got those numbers from, but all serial killers are sociopaths -- meaning that they have no conscience and like to inflict pain on others, period. They almost always have a history of having been physically or sexually abused, themselves and also often have a history of torturing small animals. The standard profile is that they are white, male, many are married with children, between the ages of 25 and 40, and they are straight. I have never heard a correlation with homosexuality, although their torture of others would likely seek to inflict the most pain and humiliation possible -- homosexual acts would accomplish that on a heterosexual victim but that doesn't mean the killer is necessarily "a homosexual". They get off on humiliating and hurting the other person, not on "the gayness" of it.
I am not defending homosexuality as a lifestyle, but there are enough heterosexual perverts and sociopaths out there for us not to dump all our bizarre heterosexual behaviors on homosexuals just to make us feel better. We've got more than our share of freaks, too.
the numbers are from that link though I was wrong on the % it is higher it’s 69% of serial killers are homosexuals and bi sexuals, and that is not including those with weird sexual views.
I will disagree with one thing that most are not straight but are homosexuals accodin to the research on that kink as with other links.
If you ever get a chance the link I put up is very interesting and surprising to say the least.
also here is another link
http://www.serve.com/PHIHOM/articles/homoserial.htm
there are other links too but these are ones where the homosexuals people cannot say it is one sided
I was in school a while back. "The most famous serial killers" also change with time --as does the ability to interview them and get them to talk about their sexual preferences. At that time, the profile said that most were "straight", and I don't think that I recalled that profile of the time, incorrectly.
And as even your research says:
"Although the proportion of serial killers who are known to have had homosexual experience is high (over 43%), the total number of serial killers is too small to make statistically relevant statements about whether homosexuals are over- or under-represented among serial killers."
What was said in the beginning of it is also worth noting: "This list is intended for reference purposes only and does not imply a causal relationship between homosexuality and serial killing.....But more importantly, none of the serial killers listed here represent typical homosexuals, who, like the general population, are almost never involved in violent crime."
Having said all of that, God made man & woman to physically fit together. Swinging in the other direction with the same sex is bound to cause some physical pain. Sociopaths are into giving pain, so it actually would seems be a more likely choice for a sociopath in spite what I had recalled earlier.
The most important issue, however is not the serial killers "sexual preference", but rather the idea that serial killers are predators. They hunt like animal, picking the weak, vulnerable and even socially marginalized, from the herd. They are opportunistic in their thought processes -- children and homosexual men are "weak" in the sense that they are usually not difficult to lure into a one-on-one situation where they are alone and unprotected. While, unlike the swinging Ted Bundy 1970's, women are much more savvy about protecting themselves from "smiling strangers" today.
If you get back to the idea that most serial killers were people who as children, were abused (often sexually) themselves (although it's no excuse for their behavior), it really wouldn't be a surprise that the abuse bent their ideas about sexuality and their entire sexual identity. Serial killers are emotionally and socially "bent" period, and their sexual preferences are the least of their issues!
In what you wrote I could not agree more especially how a man and woman are physically fit for each other.
I usually say that God or nature intended a man and a woman to be together as it is those who can have children and continue the natural cycle of humans and evolution.
Anything else is a sexual perversion but that is my opinion, though with those facts it’s hard to argue against them no matter how far left and homosexual you are.
Two men cannot and neither can two women who have sex no matter how many times they say it is normal/natural.
Disgusting IMHO
I’m really tired right now as it is late here but I will get back to you with more comments about this.
Thank you for some great posts by you and others
And thank you to you for such rational and intelligent responses!
There are so many theories on homosexuality that it is hard to sort fact from fiction, and truth from a political agenda. The worst is that we haven't even agreed on what constitutes "a homosexual": "Is it the attraction or the behavior?" Because there are those who feel it and never act on it and those who are generally straight but swing based on circumstances (prison or economic prostitution). So which one is gay?
Then there is some evidence that indicates that the onset of puberty can be so intense in some cases, that kids get confused or go for whatever is available, and then get emotionally stuck there as adults. It's not a bad theory, but also not completely proven.
I do know this much: I've never been tempted in that way, as I've always been attracted to the opposite sex. But I am not sure what I would do had I been attracted to the same sex and been unable to change that about myself. So as a Christian, however revolting I may find the behavior, who am I to judge when I have never walked in their shoes? (It's not the same as pedophilia where there is a clear abuse of power.)
I do know that when a friend confided in me that she had once had an affair with a woman although she was generally attracted to men, and later she said that she confessed the affair to an priest. She said that the (Orthodox) priest said to her, "Sex outside of marriage is sex outside of marriage. Who it is with is irrelevant. Sex for self-gratification and narcissistic reasons is the real sin." Of course in our Church, "marriage" is only between members of the opposite sex, but I think that he was saying that once you miss the mark, it doesn't matter by how much, you missed it anyway -- time to clean up your act, find the right husband and create a real family. And she ultimately did. But had the priest, instead, come unglued on her and started going on about "her perversion", I am not sure that she would have found her real place in life as she finally did.
I think that (absent true evil) ultimately most of us humans are all just a bunch of goofuses stumbling around down here trying to find our place in life, bumping into walls and doing some really bizarre and stupid things, each with our own strengths and weaknesses. Make too big a deal out of any one of those stupid things and it winds up defining your life, when it really shouldn't.
My dream would be to get married, hit the lottery, build a log cabin in the Rockies and never have to deal with this crazy world again.
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