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When I Was a Boy, America Was a Better Place [Must Read]
Townhall ^ | June 10, 2008 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 06/09/2008 11:35:17 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The day the O.J. Simpson verdict was announced, I said to my then-teenage son, "David, please forgive me. I am handing over to you a worse America than my father handed over to me."

Unfortunately, I still feel this way.

With the important exception of racial discrimination -- which was already dying a natural death when I was young -- it is difficult to come up with an important area in which America is significantly better than when I was a boy. But I can think of many in which its quality of life has deteriorated.

When I was a boy, America was a freer society than it is today. If Americans had been told the extent and number of laws that would govern their speech and behavior within one generation, they would have been certain that they were being told about some dictatorship, not the Land of the Free. Today, people at work, to cite but one example, are far less free to speak naturally. Every word, gesture and look, even one's illustrated calendar, is now monitored lest a fellow employee feel offended and bring charges of sexual harassment or creating a "hostile work environment" or being racially, religiously or ethnically insensitive, or insensitive to another's sexual orientation.

Meanwhile, all employers in California are now prohibited by law from firing a man who has decided to cross-dress at work. And needless to say, no fellow worker can say to that man, "Hey, Jack, why not wear the dress at home and men's clothes to work?" An employer interviewing a prospective employee is not free to ask the most natural human questions: Are you married? Do you have a child? How old are you? Soon "How are you?" will be banned lest one discriminate on the basis of health.

When I was boy, what people did at home was not their employer's business. Today, companies and city governments refuse to hire, and may fire, workers no matter how competent or healthy, who smoke in their homes. Sarasota, Fla., the latest city to invade people's private lives, would not hire Winston Churchill, Franklin Roosevelt or John F. Kennedy if they applied for a job.

When I was a 7-year-old boy, I flew alone from New York to my aunt and uncle in Miami and did the same thing coming back to New York. I boarded the plane on my own and got off the plane on my own. No papers for my parents to fill out. No extra fee to pay the airline. I was responsible for myself. Had I run away or been kidnapped, no one would have sued the airline. Today, fear of lawsuits is a dominant fact of American life.

When I was a boy, I ran after girls during recess, played dodgeball, climbed monkey bars and sat on seesaws. Today, more and more schools have no recess; have canceled dodgeball lest someone feel bad about being removed from the game; and call the police in to interrogate, even sometimes arrest, elementary school boys who playfully touch a girl. And monkey bars and seesaws are largely gone, for fear of lawsuits should a child be injured.

When I was boy, I was surrounded by adult men. Today, most American boys (and girls, of course) come into contact with no adult man all day every school day. Their teachers and school principals are all likely to be women. And if, as is often the case, there is no father at home (not solely because of divorce but because "family" courts have allowed many divorced mothers to remove fathers from their children's lives), boys almost never come into contact with the most important group of people in a boy's life -- adult men. The contemporary absence of men in boys' lives is not only unprecedented in American history; it is probably unprecedented in recorded history.

When I was a boy, we had in our lives adults who took pride in being adults. To distinguish them from our peers, we called these adults "Mr.," "Mrs." and "Miss," or by their titles, "Doctor," "Pastor," "Rabbi," "Father." It was good for us, and we liked it. Having adults proud of their adulthood, and not acting like they were still kids, gave us security (as well as something to look forward to in growing up). Today, kids are surrounded by peers twice, three, four times their age.

When I was a boy, the purpose of American history textbooks was to teach American history. Today, the purpose of most American history texts is to make minorities and females feel good about themselves. As a result, American kids today are deprived of the opportunity to feel good about being American (not to mention deprived of historical truth). They are encouraged to feel pride about all identities -- African-American, Hispanic, Asian, female, gay -- other than American.

When I was a teenage boy, getting to kiss a girl, let alone to touch her thigh or her breast (even over her clothes) was the thrill of a lifetime. Most of us could only dream of a day later on in life when oral sex would take place (a term most of us had never heard of). But of course, we were not raised by educators or parents who believed that "teenagers will have sex no matter what." Most of us rarely if ever saw a naked female in photos (the "dirty pictures" we got a chance to look at never showed "everything"), let alone in movies or in real life. We were, in short, allowed to be relatively innocent. And even without sex education and condom placement classes, few of us ever got a girl pregnant.

When I was a boy, "I Love Lucy" showed two separate beds in Lucy and Ricky's bedroom -- and they were a married couple. Today, MTV and most TV saturate viewers' lives with sexual imagery and sexual talk, virtually all of which is loveless and, of course, non-marital.

When I was boy, people dressed up to go to baseball games, visit the doctor and travel on airplanes. Today, people don't dress up even for church.

When I was a boy, Time and Newsweek were well written and relied little on pictures and illustrations. Today, those magazines often look like adult comic books by comparison. They are filled with large illustrations and photos, and they dumb down the news with features like "Winners and Losers" and "Who's Up and Who's Down." And when I was a boy, it would have been inconceivable for Time to substitute anything, let alone a tree, for the flag planted by the marines on Iwo Jima.

One might argue that these are the same laments that every previous older generation has expressed -- "Ah, when I was young" But in America, that has not been the case. In America, the older generations tended to say the opposite -- "When I was a kid, things were worse."

Can we return to the America of my youth? No. Can we return to the best values of that time? Yes. But not if both houses of Congress, the presidency and the Supreme Court move the country even further leftward. If that happens, many of the above noted changes will simply be accelerated: More laws restricting "offensive" speech will be enacted; litigation will increase and trial lawyers will gain more power; the American military will be less valued; trees will gradually replace the flag as our most venerated symbol; schools will teach even less as they concentrate even more on diversity, sexuality and the environment; teenage sex will be increasingly accepted; American identity will continue to be replaced by ethnic, racial, gender or "world citizen" identity; and the power of the state will expand further as the power of the individual inevitably contracts. It's hard to believe most Americans really want that.


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Wealth and technology wise, we are better off now, but I miss that country he's talking about. If you're over 40, you know what I mean. If you're not, I kind of feel sorry for you.
1 posted on 06/09/2008 11:35:17 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

its all related to entropy and the second law of thermal dynamics


2 posted on 06/09/2008 11:43:42 PM PDT by seastay
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I wrote a poem on THIS site about this very thing, about 3.5 years ago. It said much of the same things.

most responders just made fun of it, though.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1315646/posts


3 posted on 06/09/2008 11:45:31 PM PDT by Rca2000 ( Hitler promised "change" too. "to the trains, people, to the trains".)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The silly part is when I talk to younger people at gatherings they realy think they have more freedom now. Im not quite at that 40 bracket yet but I do see a huge difference in things since I was a teen. For starters PC was the IBM PC ....


4 posted on 06/09/2008 11:46:47 PM PDT by BhaktaSteve
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If you're over 40, you know what I mean. If you're not, I kind of feel sorry for you.

One of the pillars of Osama's campaign is that a McCain presidency would be Bush's 3rd term. McCain has responded that an Obama presidency would be Carter's 2nd term. While McCain's response is clever and truthful, it will be largely ineffective since no one under 40 has any appreciation of how utterly wretched the Carter administration was.

5 posted on 06/09/2008 11:48:12 PM PDT by rhinohunter (Welcome back to the GOP "glory" days of Gerald Ford and Bob Michel)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sad, but true.


6 posted on 06/09/2008 11:54:02 PM PDT by TheWasteLand
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To: rhinohunter

Your tagline is right on.

The “lovable losers” are in charge- and unwilling to resisit the nutcases like pelosi and reid who are damaging the country.

Why aren’t Republicans screaming about democrats blocking drilling for 7 seven years! ?


7 posted on 06/09/2008 11:55:36 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (Iraq's WMD's will be found in Syria after Bush leaves office.God will vindicate a righteous decision)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I am twenty somthing years old, but golly I agree with this writer!! I have an afinity for the past (America’s especially), even of 20+ years ago (who’d of though the 80’s would be better than what we have NOW?).

I can’t stand modern-Athiestic-Yuppie Loving-Foolish America!!

I wish we would return to the 1950’s (values wise-and I really don’t care about all the technology)..we could survive without it!! If you can’t, well then you’re lost.

Better yet lets return to the victorian era, afterall I describe myself as a “victorian era male” pre-feminism when Modern America turns most of my peers (and tries to with me) into “whimps” or womenizers (rap culture, etc..) or worse!!


8 posted on 06/09/2008 11:56:53 PM PDT by JSDude1 (It;s only a protest vote if your political worldview is Republican 1st, conservative 2nd-pissant)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If you're over 40, you know what I mean. If you're not, I kind of feel sorry for you.

I'm under 40--hell, I'm under 30--and it's even more depressing to see my contemporaries googly eyed over B. Hussein, completely falling for the BDS and "the Republicans are gonna bring back the draft and keep me from smoking pot and having sex with strangers" hoax.

Remember: Hitler was big with the young, too.

9 posted on 06/10/2008 12:01:01 AM PDT by GOP_Raider (DU: Standing athwart history yelling "$#@$# you mother$#@$#er!")
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To: qam1; ItsOurTimeNow; PresbyRev; Fraulein; StoneColdGOP; Clemenza; m18436572; InShanghai; xrp; ...

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10 posted on 06/10/2008 12:05:38 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I remember when residents of the SF Bay Area used to snicker at what Los Angelinos had to endure. Freeways that were virtual parking lots, uncontrolled urban sprawl, soaring crime rates (except Oakland and Richmond), and a cluttered generic landscape that stretched as far as the eye could see. They don’t snicker anymore.


11 posted on 06/10/2008 12:06:07 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t know how much I agree with him. The end of the Cold War and fall of the Soviet Union make it a better world today. I remember ‘duck and cover’ and the fear we had of nuclear attack.

The end of racial discrimination, lynchings of Blacks, etc. is good, as Praegar states. Also, the end of gender discrimination is also a sign of progress. When I was young, the want ads were divided up by ‘White Male,’ ‘Black Male,’ ‘White Female,’ ‘Black Female.’ Also, there is less prejudice against Jews today.

I disagree about his statement about not being exposed to males. In the 1950s and 60s there was concern about what was called ‘momism,’ caused, it was believed, by young boys not being exposed enough to adult men.

In the suburbs, the men were gone all day (and often into the evening) while the wives took care of the children. Most teachers were women, even in the high schools. In the high school I went to, there were probably twice as many female teachers as male.

Things have changed. Some things are better and some are worse, but that’s the nature of life. We can never stick our foot into the same river twice.


12 posted on 06/10/2008 12:07:16 AM PDT by FFranco
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To: BhaktaSteve
Yeah, I grew up in the 1980s, and can agree with you on most of these points.

"No papers for my parents to fill out."

That one is as easy to explain as why restaurants fear customer retaliation in the courtroom over hot coffee. Everything is stupid now because of the lawsuit threat, and the scumbag lawyers that push this hostility toward Americans.

"MTV and most TV saturate viewers' lives with sexual imagery and sexual talk..."

Bill Clinton and Madonna are responsible for this. Their glamorization of sin is why everyone under 25 has an STD these days.

"Kids are surrounded by peers twice, three, four times their age."

I once read that the average adult mentality is that of a 15 year old kid, so it is fair to say that many adults are immature. Most of them are too irresponsible and stupid to have children, but they do anyway. That's why we are surrounded by fickle, callous and equally vacuous idiots who worship at the altar of Britney Spears instead of Jesus. That would also explain why a stupid fool like Shepard Smith is on the TV at 6 PM CST each evening.

Where is the humility and self-respect? That's long gone! Generation Me is all about egocentrism and instant self-gratification, in addition to acting like an immature group.

13 posted on 06/10/2008 12:08:11 AM PDT by Prole (Pray for the families of Chris and Channon.)
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To: JSDude1
Well, the dentistry is better today. Millions of parents are doing something that would have been unthinkable in the 50s, 60s, or 70s -- educating their children at home. Home schooling is still largely under the radar, but has the potential to radically alter American perceptions concerning the obligations of the citizen to the state. Millions of children no longer assume that "The" Government has an automatic right to claim 30 hours a week of their time. Millions of parents no longer consider it acceptable to render unto Caesar that which is God's -- their children. People are losing faith in the prime support of supercilious secularism, the public school system. As my favorite marxist Jesuit, the late Ivan Illich wrote, I suspect that our greatest days are yet to come.
14 posted on 06/10/2008 12:09:57 AM PDT by RJR_fan (Winners and lovers shape the future. Whiners and losers TRY TO PREDICT IT.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I remember playing baseball with the boys until we were in the 7th grade. When it was my turn at bat, the boys wanted to take my place but I was a much better batter than they were. My nieces, nephews,cousins,my younger sister and I played it at home so most of us got to be pretty good. I could climb trees with the best of them. We had a huge black walnut tree behind the house.My sister and I use to climb it to the top. The wind would be blowing and that tree was swaying back and forth. It is a wonder that we did not fall out of that top. My dad could work on anything and people would bring their cars for him to work on. He had a thing shaped like a kids’ swing set to pull the motor out. I use to walk on top of that and one day I fell off. My mother, aunt, and the usual siblings, and cousins thought it had killed me but I just had the breath knocked out. The good ole days when students were really taught and they had better learn it and get decent grades or they would be left behind. I only remember one fight. It was between 2 girls and one pulled the earring out of the other girl's ear.
15 posted on 06/10/2008 12:10:49 AM PDT by MamaB
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To: qam1
When I was a teenage boy, getting to kiss a girl, let alone to touch her thigh or her breast (even over her clothes) was the thrill of a lifetime.

In today's world, would that be before or after the girl files sexual harassment or attempted rape charges?

That and teenage boys are constantly told to question their sexuality (their masculinity) day in and day out by the public schools.

16 posted on 06/10/2008 12:12:46 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (The government solution to a problem is usually as bad as the problem. — Milton Friedman)
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To: GOP_Raider
Eerily similar... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KgJQUXr2Ws&feature=related
17 posted on 06/10/2008 12:31:42 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (McCain could never convince me to vote for him. Only the Marxist Obama can!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I remember my father teaching me to shoot — when I was 8.


18 posted on 06/10/2008 12:31:48 AM PDT by TennesseeProfessor
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To: GOP_Raider
They are all d@mned fools.

This is why I do not get along with the vast majority of idiots that compose our generation.

Obama this, and Obama that.

I dare them to explain what taxes will be like if he gets into office.

Most of them don't know how to respond to my question.

19 posted on 06/10/2008 12:38:14 AM PDT by Prole (Pray for the families of Chris and Channon.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Television.
20 posted on 06/10/2008 12:40:22 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (McCain will be the first ex-POW President.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Television.
Television is too trite an answer. The main culprit in the destruction of American culture is cheap and easy transportation, the car and the airplane. Back in the day, you had to be upstanding because everyone knew you. Most people were in the same place their entire life. There were changes, wars, depressions etc... but these were blips comparatively. Now nobody knows anyone else, so the government (gladly) tries to fill the void.

Modern liberalism is not a conscious evil, it's a symptom of the underlying cause, the social disconnect caused by easy movement and economic growth.

21 posted on 06/10/2008 12:55:11 AM PDT by ketsu
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To: TennesseeProfessor
played dodgeball

I remember using my major league arm to throw the ball so hard that the ball would bounce off the heads of my victims with such velocity that it would hit the gym ceiling.

22 posted on 06/10/2008 1:00:32 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Way too eerie...


23 posted on 06/10/2008 1:12:40 AM PDT by GOP_Raider (DU: Standing athwart history yelling "$#@$# you mother$#@$#er!")
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To: Prole
I dare them to explain what taxes will be like if he gets into office.

Oh, I get my contemporaries to answer it, but it's the usual "Obama will tax the rich people who make too much money." It's fun to irritate them because many of them simply don't get it. Dangerous because they're going to take over at some point, but fun.

24 posted on 06/10/2008 1:14:35 AM PDT by GOP_Raider (DU: Standing athwart history yelling "$#@$# you mother$#@$#er!")
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To: Rca2000

Great poem. I don’t know why you got so much flack for it. This country is definitely moving leftward. I love this country, but I don’t love the direction things are moving. If Obama should get in, I think things will definitely get worse.


25 posted on 06/10/2008 1:17:00 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Let’s make that clickable:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KgJQUXr2Ws


26 posted on 06/10/2008 1:19:26 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Prole
why everyone under 25 has an STD these days.

Wouldn't be painting with a broad brush there would ya? I am under 25 and STD free thank you very much. Just because a lot of people are falling for many of the vices glamorized on TV doesn't mean everyone is.
27 posted on 06/10/2008 1:21:09 AM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You ever thought about being weird for a living?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Starting with the second grade, I walked to and from school by myself. Maybe a distance of two to three miles. I enjoyed it, even when it rained. Does any kid walk to school any more? It was a simplier time.


28 posted on 06/10/2008 1:22:25 AM PDT by skimask (Never argue with an idiot, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience)
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To: ketsu
Television is but a word, but the scope of its reach and impact is extremely vast. Especially on young minds that are the main target and later grow up to be dysfunction bungling failures and idiots, who are prime pickings for the Democrat Party's indoctrinizational messages of angry have-nots and victimhood.

Cheap and easy transport, enabling people to change residences, only transfers the point of absorption from television. Having new faces around where you live is nowhere near the impact as having the same faces and messages transmitted right into your home and to your children.

Thus, people not knowing each other is a symptom of the main illness called television because people are tied to their TV's rather then getting to know each other.

So again I say: Television.

29 posted on 06/10/2008 1:23:23 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (McCain will be the first ex-POW President.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
it is difficult to come up with an important area in which America is significantly better than when I was a boy.

I can think of a few... When I was a boy the internet was the dewey decimal system at the library, and it did not allow me to purchase any appliance, tool, service, entertainment or trinket I desire or think of. There were 4 liberal sources of TV news, and AM radio played baseball and country & western. Workers had no right to a raise and companies had no right to increase their price during 1,000 days of Nixon's wage and price controls. The right to own the fruits of one's labor was threatened by inflation of 12%, interest rates of 9% and unemployment of 9%. Carter would make America long for those numbers, the quality of President has gotten "significantly better," IMO. Men were drafted to fight in Vietnam and 60,000 lost their right to live. Battered wives, victims of child abuse and drunk driving had little right to a pursuit of happiness. The speed limit was 55. The postal service was a presidential cabinet position, and women were entitled to greater federal subsistence for each child they squeezed out.

30 posted on 06/10/2008 1:35:19 AM PDT by Once-Ler (If 99% of elected officials fall into your definition of socialism, then give up. You lost already.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“When I was a 7-year-old boy, I flew alone from New York to my aunt and uncle in Miami and did the same thing coming back to New York.”

I was just recalling to my wife and kids how when I was 9 and my brother was 6, we spent a week visiting my granparents in Boston and they put us on the Trailways bus and we rode all the way home to Virginia where my parents met us on the other end, about a ten hour journey. Everyone was great to us and that included a stop at the Port Authority in New York.

Our house was always unlocked.

Kids should be kept as innocent as possible for as long as possible.


31 posted on 06/10/2008 1:38:13 AM PDT by Roy Tucker ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality."--Ayn Rand)
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To: Red Steel

“I remember using my major league arm to throw the ball so hard that the ball would bounce off the heads of my victims with such velocity that it would hit the gym ceiling.”

Is that you, Stinky? How ya been?


32 posted on 06/10/2008 1:41:29 AM PDT by Roy Tucker ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality."--Ayn Rand)
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To: Mr. Blonde
My apologies.

I read a recent CDC report about our generation that was very disturbing.

http://www.cdc.gov/std/stats/figures/figure40.htm

33 posted on 06/10/2008 1:44:36 AM PDT by Prole (Pray for the families of Chris and Channon.)
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To: FFranco; RJR_fan

Thank you for your post.


34 posted on 06/10/2008 1:47:54 AM PDT by Once-Ler (If 99% of elected officials fall into your definition of socialism, then give up. You lost already.)
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To: JSDude1

” Better yet lets return to the victorian era “

Now let’s not get TOO carried away .


35 posted on 06/10/2008 1:49:33 AM PDT by sushiman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Whiny old men have ALWAYS thought America was going to hell in a handbasket.

We live longer, are healthier, wealthier and safer than any previous generation.

Part of it is technology. I have 100 channels plus of TV in very living color. There were 3 when I was little in the 50’s and they weren't on half the time.

Besides segregation of black and white. Jews and women were discriminated against too.

The 20th century was the most violent in History. Millions were dying in conflicts around the globe.

Does this dufus miss smallpox, measles, polio, TB, etc.? We once had “asylums” for some of these diseases where people were put against there wills. We also hid away the mentally ill.

You used to be able to smoke anywhere, but you weren't told that it would kill 10’s of millions.

I grew up knowing where the closest nuclear fallout shelter was located.

I will take my blueray, microwave popcorn,and FReerepublic, and he can have Howdy Doody. I luv Lucy may have had two beds on the show, but Desi had a lot more in real life and young boys were having sex with Young girls, they just got married at 16 or 17 to do it and had to have a blood test for syphilis before the government would give them the license.

36 posted on 06/10/2008 1:50:11 AM PDT by Soliton
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To: JSDude1

” I wish we would return to the 1950’s (values wise-and I really don’t care about all the technology ) ...”

I would agree that taking everything into consideration , the 50’s was our best era . It’s been downhill ever since ...


37 posted on 06/10/2008 1:52:33 AM PDT by sushiman
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To: seastay
"its all related to entropy and the second law of thermal dynamics"

Hmmm. Why did entropy and the 2nd law only get into gear since the 1960's, after being dormant for a thousand years? I thought these were universal laws . . .

38 posted on 06/10/2008 1:52:58 AM PDT by Neanderthal
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Television is but a word, but the scope of its reach and impact is extremely vast. Especially on young minds that are the main target and later grow up to be dysfunction bungling failures and idiots, who are prime pickings for the Democrat Party's indoctrinizational messages of angry have-nots and victimhood.

Cheap and easy transport, enabling people to change residences, only transfers the point of absorption from television. Having new faces around where you live is nowhere near the impact as having the same faces and messages transmitted right into your home and to your children.

Thus, people not knowing each other is a symptom of the main illness called television because people are tied to their TV's rather then getting to know each other.

So again I say: Television.

Television has the ability to define reality, but not as much as the family and a person's immediate environment. If television was really as powerful as you believe then the western media, while powerful enough, would have a much greater impact on the Islamic world.

A Totalitarian state needs to establish a one-to-one relationship with its citizens, families get in the way of that. Television is *much* less effective against groups with strong social ties.

39 posted on 06/10/2008 1:54:11 AM PDT by ketsu
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To: FFranco
In the suburbs, the men were gone all day (and often into the evening) while the wives took care of the children. Most teachers were women, even in the high schools. In the high school I went to, there were probably twice as many female teachers as male.

I'll agree with the general supposition in your remarks, all things change, some for the better, some for the worst. I take exception to some of it too.

Your thoughts about adult male role models, father figures, I think misses the mark. My kids complain about my working too much. My daughter says, "Daddy, I wish you didn't have to go to work. When do we get to do Daddy Daughter time again?" It breaks my heart. But at the same time, my kids are learning about what the expectations should be for a man. His loyalty to the family. His responsibility and work ethic are measured and sized by those ever so young and curious eyes. They watch and they listen. They learn and eventually emulate much of the behaviors of their parents.

I like to think ours is a unique family (maybe not to this crowd, however). I coach little league and soccer. I play with the kids and they "help" me with projects in the garage and around the house. My wife stays home with the kids and I work 60 hours a week to support the family.

I guess we are a little old fashion. The liberal mantras that say kids don't need a father on one side and then fathers are not around because of work anyway on the other, have woefully missed the mark when it comes to the staple of behavior that nurtured youth evolve to emulate.

I don't think the relevance of a solid two-parent family can be overstated enough. The core values of a child are established early in life (though teenage years). The core values become the basis of character for young and old adults. Values are unwaivering and uncompromising. Values are not usually something parents "teach" kids. But they do learn them (IMO). Priorities change as we grow older. Girls, Friends, College, Parties, Job, Wife, Children, Children, Children, retirement, Grandchildren,....

All that said, I have to agree with the article in this way. The general character of a typical American seems to have degraded over the years. The values which should be the foundation of that character does not seem to be as evident as say 30 or 40 years ago. I still call old teachers and coaches by their titles. I still hold doors open and say sir and ma am. I hope my kids are watching. I hope my son develops these traits and I hope my daughter comes to expect these traits in a mate down the road.

40 posted on 06/10/2008 1:59:07 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (We have the ability to shape & polish turds, make em smell nice & sell them as public services)
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To: Rca2000

Excellent poem.


41 posted on 06/10/2008 2:00:45 AM PDT by donna ("Don't let the sound of your own wheels drive you crazy.")
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To: Roy Tucker

No Punky.


42 posted on 06/10/2008 2:06:36 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“If you’re over 40, you know what I mean.”

Hear, hear.


43 posted on 06/10/2008 2:25:55 AM PDT by littlehouse36 (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable - JFK)
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To: BhaktaSteve

I am an under 40 also and actually love they way life is. It is a blast to play with the kids with the new video games and various other stuff they have now. The movies have gotten better for children. They put out a few cartoon one’s yearly. There is plenty of children’s programing that they can watch that give pretty good messages. The only problems I have with children today is that they can’t have peanut butter, sugar and parties at school. Other than that they have it pretty good. My parents were under their desks worried about nukes in their day. Today’s generation is fine. The Gen X’ers are the best of the lot.


44 posted on 06/10/2008 2:27:46 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Prole

Their glamorization of sin is why everyone under 25 has an STD these days.

I was really interested in your post until I got to this stupid sentence. I did not read beyond it.


45 posted on 06/10/2008 2:28:51 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Once-Ler

Most brilliant post of the day. You are right on all counts. I swear people just like to complain. I happen to love the way America is today with regard to your examples.


46 posted on 06/10/2008 2:31:00 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: sushiman

the 50’s was our best era.

I guess you loved the child abuse, wives beaten behind closed doors, drunk driving with no penalties, very low wages for workers. No thank you!!!


47 posted on 06/10/2008 2:33:57 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: FFranco

My sisters teach public schools. They say that 80 of the teachers are women, and half the remaining men are gay.


48 posted on 06/10/2008 2:44:11 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: napscoordinator
Granted my statement may be an exaggeration of what's going on out there, have you read the published reports from the CDC? They are citing an epidemic, but no one is calling it that.

Don't reference me as "stupid" for getting angry about the fact that so many people have STDs.

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/88683.php

http://www.thebody.com/content/prev/art17335.html

http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/conditions/11/13/std.rates.ap/index.html

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,169602,00.html

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,311318,00.html

Given how embarrassed today's teenagers may feel about their STDs, many may not even bother reporting them to the medical community.

49 posted on 06/10/2008 2:45:30 AM PDT by Prole (Pray for the families of Chris and Channon.)
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To: Leisler

My sisters teach public schools. They say that 80 of the teachers are women, and half the remaining men are gay.

They should seriously pay teachers more (along with accountability) and they you would see more men in the profession. How on Earth can a guy support a family making 38,000 dollars a year??? It is really impossible.


50 posted on 06/10/2008 2:46:34 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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