Temple Mount '100% Islamic'

worldnetdaily.com ^ | June 01, 2008 | Aaron Klein

[Publius6961]

Hagia Sophia is 100% Christian, too.
So?

Want to go back to the way things might have been at one time? I choose 600 Anno Domini.
Nice round number....

: )

[Publius6961]

This number would include all the peaceful Muslims...

Yu noticed that too?
LOL!

which is it?

1.5 billion murdering savages?
Or just a "few thousand?"

Inquiring minds.

[Dr.Zoidberg]

The Jews owned it first. Muzzies stole it.

Replace "Jews" with just about any other name and you're still accurate.

The mohammedans can proclaim a great history of creativity, but most of their "great historical achievements" were in theft and rewriting history.

[forkinsocket]

An al-buraaq is a creature of its own, not exactly a flying horse. Al-buraaq is a word of its own, but if you have to translate it into English, it would be "lightning." (Real lightning is barq in Arabic.) Obama's name is Barak, a form of the word baraka, which literally means blessing. Even though the two words look the same when put into Latin letters, they are not the same in Arabic. Al-buraaq = البُراق Baaraka = بارك

[BBell]

I don’t believe for a second that Bush thinks that Islam is the religion of peace. What was he supposed to do? Denounce it and call it the religion of pieces? That would have went well while trying to conduct a war on terror in mostly Islamic countrys. Sometimes you have to appease the enemy if you want to fight them.

[SkyDancer]

Great! Thanks for the information ....

/r/Jane

[gnubi]

The more I read about the Palestinians the less I think they will ever be capable of governing themselves. If the world doesn’t give them a state they never had before, they will continue to kill themselves at unprecedented rates. reminds me of the scene in Blazing Saddles with the sheriff holding himself hostage at gunpoint.

Now we have Islamic ‘scholars’ introducing Islamic science and Islamic history - fields that are as unencumbered by fact or analysis as its practitioners are unafflicted with integrity or embarrassment.

Look, we know these people are either lying or horribly ignorant. Why does anyone treat them seriously? As for me, there is no longer any sympathy forthcoming.

[SunkenCiv]

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[LibertyRocks]

I would agree with your assessment of how the term came about, and how it is commonly known (no pun intended).

I’ve honestly never heard it referred to as “Christian Era” before... It wasn’t just about the year being off - it was more a response to the whole B.C = Before CHRIST and A.D. = Anno Domini being “offensive” to non-Christians and Atheists (plenty of which are in the academic professions).

[ApplegateRanch]

They are like two hemorrhoids which must be excised. God willing one day they shall be.

The modern equivalent of the golden emmorods (KJV for hemorrhoids) of the Philistines, when the returned the Ark to the Israelites.

[ApplegateRanch]

I couldn't find mention of David paying the Jebusites.

Zion; City of David; Jerusalem; Temple Mount are not by any means synonomous. The Temple Mount was not within the city at that time.

It was at the future Temple Site (Where The Angel of the Lord appeared and was commanded to spare Jerusalem from the plague that was punishment for David's transgression of numbering the people) that David purchased from a Jebusite.

II Samuel 24

18 And Gad came that day to David, and said unto him, Go up, rear an altar unto the Lord in the threshingfloor of Araunah the Jebusite.
19 And David, according to the saying of Gad, went up as the Lord commanded.
20 And Araunah looked, and saw the king and his servants coming on toward him: and Araunah went out, and bowed himself before the king on his face upon the ground.
21 And Araunah said, Wherefore is my lord the king come to his servant? And David said, To buy the threshingfloor of thee, to build an altar unto the Lord, that the plague may be stayed from the people.

[Mount Athos]

Not to quible, but there were no "icons" - the etymology of the word proves that such would be the opposite. No idols, no "icons." Only a building, furnature, and the Dwelling Presence of the Almighty.

Safisoft, isn't what you are saying here directly contradicted by the description of the temple in the bible? The bible explicitly describes paintings and statues of Angels not only in the temple but right in the inner sanctum of the temple. Not just one or two icons and statues of angels, but all over the place described at length in detail.

And Solomon overlaid the inside of the house with pure gold, and he drew chains of gold across, in front of the inner sanctuary, and overlaid it with gold. And he overlaid the whole house with gold, until all the house was finished. Also the whole altar that belonged to the inner sanctuary he overlaid with gold. In the inner sanctuary he made two cherubim of olive wood, each ten cubits high. Five cubits was the length of one wing of the cherub, and five cubits the length of the other wing of the cherub; it was ten cubits from the tip of one wing to the tip of the other. The other cherub also measured ten cubits; both cherubim had the same measure and the same form. The height of one cherub was ten cubits and so was that of the other cherub. He put the cherubim in the innermost part of the house; and the wings of the cherubim were spread out so that a wing of one touched the one wall, and a wing of the other cherub touched the other wall; their other wings touched each other in the middle of the house. And he overlaid the cherubim with gold.

He carved all the walls of the house round about with carved figures of cherubim and palm trees and open flowers, in the inner and outer rooms. The floor of the house he overlaid with gold in the inner and outer rooms. For the entrance to the inner sanctuary he made doors of olive wood; the lintel and the doorposts formed a pentagon. He covered the two doors of olive wood with carvings of cherubim, palm trees, and open flowers; he overlaid them with gold, and spread gold upon the cherubim and upon the palm trees. So also he made for the entrance to the nave doorposts of olive wood, in the form of a square, and two doors of cypress wood; the two leaves of the one door were folding, and the two leaves of the other door were folding. On them he carved cherubim and palm trees and open flowers; and he overlaid them with gold evenly applied upon the carved work.

[safisoft]

2Samuel 7: Nevertheless, David took the stronghold of Zion, that is, the city of David.

No, the City of David is not the Temple Mount. Ir David [City of David] was the fortress taken from the Jebusites. the Temple Mount was not inside Ir David.

[safisoft]

isn't what you are saying here directly contradicted by the description of the temple in the bible? The bible explicitly describes paintings and statues of Angels not only in the temple but right in the inner sanctum of the temple.

No icons. You must have another agenda here. Decorations are one thing, representatiions of people or beings in order for veneration and worship are another. Techinically, there were no "angels" reprsented, there were kerubim. There were also palms and tzit [blossoms] carved into the pillars. All these were in the Holy Temple, but in the Mishkan [Tabernacle] there were only weavings of kerubim in addition to the kerubim atop the Ark.

No icons. No idolatry. Look up the etymology of the word "icon."

[safisoft]

I have never heard a scholar use CE or BCE who didn’t have an agenda to promote. The Bible warns us of false teachers.

LOL. You need to read more. Pick up any archeaological review or book. Talk about PC. In your world, if "CE" is used you assume the person is a "false teacher"? Now that is funny. The fact is, all the years are His, and using "AD" is only a test of loyalty to a mistaken dating system devised by a monk in the Sixth Century CE.

[safisoft]

I couldn't find mention of David paying the Jebusites. Kindly provide the citation.<

Couldn't find it, or didn't look? A very important passage of Scripture - 2Samuel 24:18-24:

And Gad came that day to David and said to him, "Go up, erect an altar to the L-RD on the threshing floor of Araunah the Jebusite." So David, according to the word of Gad, went up as the L-RD commanded. Now Araunah looked, and saw the king and his servants coming toward him. So Araunah went out and bowed before the king with his face to the ground. Then Araunah said, "Why has my lord the king come to his servant?" And David said, "To buy the threshing floor from you, to build an altar to the L-RD, that the plague may be withdrawn from the people." Now Araunah said to David, "Let my lord the king take and offer up whatever seems good to him. Look, here are oxen for burnt sacrifice, and threshing implements and the yokes of the oxen for wood. All these, O king, Araunah has given to the king." And Araunah said to the king, "May the L-RD your G-d accept you. Then the king said to Araunah, "No, but I will surely buy it from you for a price; nor will I offer burnt offerings to the L-RD my G-d with that which costs me nothing.” So David bought the threshing floor and the oxen for fifty shekels of silver.

Your point seems to equate the Jewish claim to the Temple Mount with everyone else's. The fact is, that the Temple Mount is the ONLY place on earth where the Almighty promised to place His Name - and His eye upon it FOREVER. It belongs to the Almighty, and He has reserved it for the people of G-d, not the worshippers of the moon god of Mecca.

[Mount Athos]

Techinically, there were no "angels" reprsented, there were kerubim.

Technically, Cherubim are angels.

In what universe are they not? You tell others to look up etymology -- but the definitions you have for words seem to only exist for you alone? You appear to be twisting words far beyond their meaning, to make the bible comport with your ideology.

You said the temple was only filled with only "a building and furniture".

The bible directly contradicts your view of the temple in the passages I cited. How can you say these lengthy descriptions of angelic imagery and statues are simple "furniture". These were even placed in the inner sanctum.

I guess these facts make you uncomfortable in some way.

Why? And Solomon overlaid the inside of the house with pure gold, and he drew chains of gold across, in front of the inner sanctuary, and overlaid it with gold. And he overlaid the whole house with gold, until all the house was finished. Also the whole altar that belonged to the inner sanctuary he overlaid with gold. In the inner sanctuary he made two cherubim of olive wood, each ten cubits high. Five cubits was the length of one wing of the cherub, and five cubits the length of the other wing of the cherub; it was ten cubits from the tip of one wing to the tip of the other. The other cherub also measured ten cubits; both cherubim had the same measure and the same form. The height of one cherub was ten cubits and so was that of the other cherub. He put the cherubim in the innermost part of the house; and the wings of the cherubim were spread out so that a wing of one touched the one wall, and a wing of the other cherub touched the other wall; their other wings touched each other in the middle of the house. And he overlaid the cherubim with gold. He carved all the walls of the house round about with carved figures of cherubim and palm trees and open flowers, in the inner and outer rooms. The floor of the house he overlaid with gold in the inner and outer rooms. For the entrance to the inner sanctuary he made doors of olive wood; the lintel and the doorposts formed a pentagon. He covered the two doors of olive wood with carvings of cherubim, palm trees, and open flowers; he overlaid them with gold, and spread gold upon the cherubim and upon the palm trees. So also he made for the entrance to the nave doorposts of olive wood, in the form of a square, and two doors of cypress wood; the two leaves of the one door were folding, and the two leaves of the other door were folding. On them he carved cherubim and palm trees and open flowers; and he overlaid them with gold evenly applied upon the carved work.

[null and void]

Sooner or later we are going to have to give the muzzies the jihad they so desperately want.

Excellent tagline material.

We will find
sooner or later
if Achmed'll pray
to a glowing crater

[null and void]

This number would include all the peaceful Muslims...

Do the math:

1.5 billion muslims - the peaceful muslims = 1.5 billion muslims

[null and void]

Barrak Hussein Obama to swear in on the koran? I’m shocked. Just shocked, I tells ya.