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McCain balances Latino voters, GOP base
Dallas Morning News ^ | 5-27-08 | WAYNE SLATER

Posted on 05/27/2008 3:31:33 PM PDT by dynachrome

Mr. McCain has launched a Spanish-language Web site, aired TV spots in Spanish emphasizing his military service and, at a Cinco de Mayo event in Phoenix, declared "everything about our Hispanic voters is tailor-made to the Republican message."

Gil Cisneros of the Republican National Hispanic Assembly of Colorado, who is vice chairman of the McCain campaign in the state, said the Arizona senator has a reputation among Hispanics as patriotic, family-oriented and moderate on immigration.

He said Mr. McCain's sponsorship of last year's failed legislation to create a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants will be a strong selling point.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; cogop; colorado; gilcisneros; gop; hispandering; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; immigration; juanmccain; laratsa; larazacandidate; mccain; mccaintruthfile; mcccain; pandering; rino
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"last year's failed legislation to create a path to citizenship, amnesty for illegal immigrants will be a strong selling point."
1 posted on 05/27/2008 3:31:33 PM PDT by dynachrome
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To: dynachrome

Instructions for balancing act: Pander to illegals; throw GOP constituency under the bus—where else can they go?


2 posted on 05/27/2008 3:34:08 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really necess ary?)
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To: dynachrome

The people of Mexican extract that I know are not for amnesty. They as angry about this issue as I am.


3 posted on 05/27/2008 3:34:37 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (If you continue to hold your nose and vote, your nation will stink worse after every election.)
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To: dynachrome

Screw the base. he wants his ‘guests’ here.


4 posted on 05/27/2008 3:34:38 PM PDT by allmost
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To: dynachrome

Si, Juan Hernandez es el Carlos Rovio nuevo


5 posted on 05/27/2008 3:35:19 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: dynachrome; Liz; calcowgirl; indylindy; Calpernia; AuntB; Tennessee Nana; pissant; SoConPubbie; ...
"It's a tightrope," said Celia Muñoz of the National Council of La Raza, a nonpartisan Hispanic advocacy group.


6 posted on 05/27/2008 3:36:58 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: dynachrome
McCain is an embarrassment. I think he should put Hillary as his VP. He could win that way without a vote from me.

Gawd, he is awful.

7 posted on 05/27/2008 3:38:37 PM PDT by indylindy (I had almost forgotten that McCain is the nominee. Too bad I was reminded.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

LolCain?


8 posted on 05/27/2008 3:40:38 PM PDT by cripplecreek (I miss the days when only the politicians were unethical.)
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To: dynachrome
Why don't all of us FReepers work at improving our way of life by learning Spanish?

After learning Spanish we could all do well in the lead balloon business.

9 posted on 05/27/2008 3:40:38 PM PDT by Radix (Think it is bad now? Wait until you have to press "2" for English!)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

There won’t be 50 United States in 25 years.


10 posted on 05/27/2008 3:41:42 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: cripplecreek
He lends himself so easily to it, after all. ;)


11 posted on 05/27/2008 3:43:21 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: dynachrome
"He stood up for immigration when that was not popular, so a lot of Hispanics are remembering that," Mr. Cisneros said. "He'll probably reach the high-water mark that George Bush set."

That is ILLEGAL immigration, Mr. Cisneros. Until you #@#$@%s in the GOP recognize the difference, we are destined to lose elections.

12 posted on 05/27/2008 3:44:56 PM PDT by calcowgirl (Schwarzenegger and McCain are trying to castrate the elephant)
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To: DoughtyOne

“people of Mexican extract that I know are not for amnesty’

Many declare themselves “white” on census forms.

I have no problems with Americans of Mexican ancestory.

I have big problems with illegals who are not here to assimilate and bring the morals and corruption of the s-hole of Mexico, Guatemala, etc. with them.


13 posted on 05/27/2008 3:51:16 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Socialism is the feudalism of the future.")
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To: pissant

Se,se puede!


14 posted on 05/27/2008 3:51:46 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Socialism is the feudalism of the future.")
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To: dynachrome

I was refering to people I know who are legal U.S. Citizens of Mexican ancestry. They don’t support illegal immigration. They don’t support granting amnesty either.

Just what does McCain hope to accomplish, offend a large number of former Mexican nationals that support the rule of law and don’t like seeing our nation trashed any more than other citizens do.

McCain is an ass.


15 posted on 05/27/2008 3:57:15 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (If you continue to hold your nose and vote, your nation will stink worse after every election.)
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To: DoughtyOne
I was refering to people I know who are legal U.S. Citizens of Mexican ancestry. They don’t support illegal immigration. They don’t support granting amnesty either.

Those that I know don't either. A friend of mine was fired from his job after calling the INS about some illegals working in our shop some years back. They assumed that his dark skin meant that he was on their side and told him that they were illegal but he's an American.
16 posted on 05/27/2008 4:03:49 PM PDT by cripplecreek (I miss the days when only the politicians were unethical.)
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To: dynachrome

Hispanics are his base, or so he thinks...


17 posted on 05/27/2008 4:18:33 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The GOP death march to the gravesite is underway.)
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To: cripplecreek

I have been amazed at how poorly the Republican party has read the illegal immigration situation. It continues to get it precisely, wrong. And as long as it does, they it continue to inflict near fatal blows on it’s collective body.

Can’t say we didn’t try to warn it.


18 posted on 05/27/2008 4:19:38 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (If you continue to hold your nose and vote, your nation will stink worse after every election.)
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To: dynachrome
"How does he convince Latinos that you're on their side while convincing the rabidly anti-immigration faction of his own party?"

Yeah, that's us- rabid, xenophobic, vigilante racist, bitter gun owners who love the Constitution and the rule of law. Bite me, Celia.

19 posted on 05/27/2008 4:23:24 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The GOP death march to the gravesite is underway.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Can’t say we didn’t try to warn it.

With the countless "Bush pesos" we returned with their fund-raising mailers, yep, the GOP was amply warned. Don't mistake this as a failure to correctly read the tea-leaves; it's open defiance of the party's core voters. It's a coup, plain and simple.

So be it. McCain might squeak out a win because the opposition is so abhorrent, but the donations issue isn't going away. If anything, McCain will make it worse.

20 posted on 05/27/2008 4:40:29 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Well, another one for the ping list tomorrow morning. Juan’s keeping me busy these days...


21 posted on 05/27/2008 4:40:54 PM PDT by bcsco (To heck with a third party. We need a second one....)
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To: TADSLOS
Hispanics are his base, or so he thinks...

As long as the myth of the monolithic "Hispanic vote" is retold, the GOP will believe it. La Raza does not represent the legal immigrants of Latin American origin that I know, and I imagine the same is true in other places--that doesn't stop McCain from "reaching out" to militant ethnic separatists.
22 posted on 05/27/2008 4:41:21 PM PDT by Das Outsider
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To: Das Outsider
that doesn't stop McCain from "reaching out" to militant ethnic separatists

...or the loony global warming crowd. McCain will go after anyone's vote but a conservative's.

23 posted on 05/27/2008 4:46:24 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The GOP death march to the gravesite is underway.)
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To: Charles Martel

I agree Charles. They won’t listen and we’re about to see what one party rule is like in this nation.


24 posted on 05/27/2008 4:46:54 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Votes to Pass Leftist Policy: McCain Senators 90, House 375 – Obama Senators 58, House 275.)
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To: DoughtyOne
They won’t listen and we’re about to see what one party rule is like in this nation.

Just look at Chicago, a corrupt fascist city.

25 posted on 05/27/2008 4:57:32 PM PDT by Clock King (Under revision...)
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To: dynachrome
Gil Cisneros of the Republican National Hispanic Assembly of Colorado, who is vice chairman of the McCain campaign in the state, said the Arizona senator has a reputation among Hispanics as patriotic, family-oriented and moderate on immigration.

How is amnesty in any way "moderate?"
26 posted on 05/27/2008 5:00:52 PM PDT by Das Outsider
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To: dynachrome

I can’t help it; I haven’t said it aloud even to myself. I cannot vote for John McCain. I can’t stand him.


27 posted on 05/27/2008 5:04:52 PM PDT by widowithfoursons
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To: Clock King

Look at 1980s Arkansas or 2008 California. The lefties rule the roost and have about destroyed California. Now folks want to do that to the nation. No thanks.

It’s qutie frustrating to folks who have had to put up with this at the state or even city level isn’t it.


28 posted on 05/27/2008 5:07:14 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Votes to Pass Leftist Policy: McCain Senators 90, House 375 / Obama Senators 58, House 275.)
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To: dynachrome
McCain balances Latino voters, GOP base

Should not be hard to do, most legal "Latino" people have very Conservative values.

29 posted on 05/27/2008 5:14:11 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: dynachrome
Politicians have always worked to garner the support various ethnic communities. In the early part of the 20th century, though the candidates themselves may not have spoken to the groups directly, they certainly had representatives meeting with Irish, Italian, Jewish, Greek, Russian, in their native languages, if these voters had not yet learned English.

The Democrats were masters at this, working in large urban areas. That's one reason that voters in those areas don't trust Republicans today; they've never even seen any in their neighborhoods. Why shouldn't Republicans go directly to these voters and ask for their support? Isn't this what so many folks here were wanting the primary candidates to do; ASK them directly for their votes?

I know all of this antipathy is because of McCain's views on immigration, but that aside, he SHOULD be looking to attract more than just white voters to his side, because there are a lot of ethnic groups in this country, and many of them DO vote. The more McCain, or any other Republican, talks to them, the more they might see the value of doing more for yourself, and not waiting for the government to do things for you.

30 posted on 05/27/2008 5:17:00 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ

I agree. Going to La Ratsa is not the right way to go about it. Hell, I was impressed with hildabeast downing a shot of whiskey ithout turning a hair.


31 posted on 05/27/2008 5:22:55 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Socialism is the feudalism of the future.")
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To: widowithfoursons; Old Sarge

I can’t vote for McCain. As Old Sarge sez: “Vote Cthulu. Why vote for a lesser evil?”


32 posted on 05/27/2008 5:25:10 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Socialism is the feudalism of the future.")
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To: Irish Eyes

Yeah, but he is going to speak at a La Ratsa meeting


33 posted on 05/27/2008 5:26:34 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Socialism is the feudalism of the future.")
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Yeah, but he is going to speak at a La Ratsa meeting

You get them were you find them..maybe he is planning on saving a few.

34 posted on 05/27/2008 5:40:45 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Irish Eyes

Dang, you’re an optimist!


35 posted on 05/27/2008 5:43:00 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Socialism is the feudalism of the future.")
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To: dynachrome
Why shouldn't he go to speak to La Raza, he's going to speak to the NAACP, isn't he? I'd say there are just as many radicals in the latter group, as in the former.
36 posted on 05/27/2008 5:46:59 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Irish Eyes; dynachrome

Besides, going to speak to those groups de-fangs then when it come to trying to claim that he’s ignoring them, or dissing them. I’m sure they’ll find something else to bitch about, but not talking to them isn’t one of them.


37 posted on 05/27/2008 5:48:55 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ

la raza is a racist group. “the race”

They are anti-American.


38 posted on 05/27/2008 5:51:23 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Socialism is the feudalism of the future.")
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To: dynachrome

“said the Arizona senator has a reputation among Hispanics as patriotic, family-oriented and moderate on immigration.”

Moderate? Moderate! Roflmao!


39 posted on 05/27/2008 6:06:27 PM PDT by AuntB (Vote Obama! ..........Because ya can't blame 'the man' when you are the 'man'.... Wanda Sikes)
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To: Das Outsider

“How is amnesty in any way “moderate?” “

Since they’ve perverted our language about SO many things. Not only must we speak spanish we get PC/BS English.


40 posted on 05/27/2008 6:10:48 PM PDT by AuntB (Vote Obama! ..........Because ya can't blame 'the man' when you are the 'man'.... Wanda Sikes)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

www.constitutionparty.com


41 posted on 05/27/2008 6:24:05 PM PDT by Grunthor (The GOP would be better off LOSING then electing McCain. - MNJohnnie)
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To: AuntB
Since they’ve perverted our language about SO many things. Not only must we speak spanish we get PC/BS English.

From the PCBS-English Dictionary, entry 'moderate':

mod·er·ate ( \ˈmä-d(ə-)rət\), adj. 1. avoiding extremes of behavior such as assenting to the will of the majority of Americans. 2. tending towards comprehensive immigration reform (see amnesty). n. 1. one prone to giving those of conservative political views the finger.
42 posted on 05/27/2008 6:25:28 PM PDT by Das Outsider
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To: SuziQ

“Why shouldn’t he go to speak to La Raza, he’s going to speak to the NAACP, isn’t he? I’d say there are just as many radicals in the latter group, as in the former.”

Holy smokes, who is next on the list, the KKK?


43 posted on 05/27/2008 6:28:53 PM PDT by Grunthor (The GOP would be better off LOSING then electing McCain. - MNJohnnie)
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To: DoughtyOne

Our fellow citizens of Mexican birth or Mexican ancestry are for the most part insulted by the presumption that they feel insulted or threatened by opposition to illegal immigration. Why should anyone presume that these citizens favor contempt for our immigration laws?


44 posted on 05/27/2008 6:36:45 PM PDT by Elsiejay (Rev.)
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To: Elsiejay

I’ve seen some of our leaders make some of the most insulting comments related to the very issue you mention. When one of our leaders talks about insulting U.S. Citizens of Mexican ancestry, they are at once intimating that these citizens are unable to understand the concepts of right and wrong, legal and illegal. I can’t explain it, other than to state what utter fools our elected officials can be.


45 posted on 05/27/2008 6:59:37 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Votes to Pass Leftist Policy: McCain Senators 90, House 375 / Obama Senators 58, House 275.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

46 posted on 05/27/2008 7:47:52 PM PDT by Old Sarge (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: Grunthor

The KKK doesn’t represent a major ethnic group. They’re just racist kooks. McCain would nave no reason to talk to them.


47 posted on 05/27/2008 8:49:51 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ

“They’re just racist kooks. McCain would nave no reason to talk to them.”

Yet he’ll talk to “The Race” and the NAACP. Imagine that.


48 posted on 05/27/2008 11:15:51 PM PDT by Grunthor (The GOP would be better off LOSING then electing McCain. - MNJohnnie)
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To: Grunthor

Not that old canard again. La Raza = The People not The Race. Also, exactly how many non Hispanics has La Raza or for that matter the NAACP lynched?


49 posted on 05/28/2008 2:02:02 AM PDT by Antonio C (God bless John McCain, George W. Bush, and our troops)
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To: Antonio C
Not that old canard again. La Raza = The People not The Race.

I've checked a variety of web-based translation services; they're in nearly-unanimous agreement that "la raza" translates to "the race".

Also, exactly how many non Hispanics has La Raza ... lynched?

Lynched? Probably none.

Shot, stabbed, raped and killed-by-drunken-vehicular-homicide? By members of and adherents to La Raza? Thousands.

50 posted on 05/28/2008 7:23:23 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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