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1 posted on 05/25/2008 1:36:55 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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Maybe I misread, or missed something in the article..... but do we know if the teacher indeed even knew that the child was in the process of being diagnosed with autism? Perhaps she was not aware of this. Do we know if in fact the parents had spoken with the teacher about the possible diagnoses or had they kept it private?

Until you have been in a teacher's shoes, trying to control a class full of undisciplined children who are raised by overly permissive parents, you will never understand how a teacher will sometimes search for innovative ways to bring a child to the understanding that some behavior is NOT socially acceptable by his peers. Sometimes the only thing that will make sense to a child is being accepted by peers.

Naturally, this would not hold true for an autistic child, but as I said before..... do we know the teacher had any idea that this child might be autistic. And lets be honest, the child has not yet been diagnosed, perhaps they will find that he is not autistic after all. As Rawhide so appropriately pointed out, "who knows?" So let's don't be so quick to judge this teacher!!

72 posted on 05/25/2008 5:48:37 AM PDT by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie)
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A root cause of these issues is the underlying notion that disabled people are normal.

They are not normal no mater how much much we pass laws and issue decelerations stating that they are.


73 posted on 05/25/2008 5:49:12 AM PDT by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar.)
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IF a teacher invited students to say what they didn't like about another student, the teacher should be fired.
90 posted on 05/25/2008 6:26:28 AM PDT by Savage Beast ("History is not just cruel. It is witty." ~Charles Krauthammer)
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A lot of folks seem to be missing something here. This kid is in a regular class because he has not yet been confirmed to have Asperger’s Syndrome. He is not, yet, on an IEP. The regular class is his proper placement until that (long and involved) process is completed.

This kid's revolting & disgusting behavior may be no more than picking his nose and eating the contents, something that is fairly common among young children, or something much worse, such as taking toys and hitting children without any warning.

In any case, there is a process to be followed, and having a child voted out of the classroom is not part of that process. The classroom is seldom a democracy. Usually, it is, at best, a benevolent despotism, and kindergarten may be a good place to start teaching democracy, but not by voting a child out because others don't like him. Among other things, they may not like him because he has darker or lighter skin than they do, straight or kinky hair, or speak in a different language or dialect.

91 posted on 05/25/2008 6:27:14 AM PDT by Old Student (We have a name for the people who think indiscriminate killing is fine. They're called "The Bad Guys)
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Put the teacher on live TV and let people call in an tell her why she should be voted out of her profession and out of the city.


94 posted on 05/25/2008 6:41:07 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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Mainstreaming once again rears it’s ugly head.


96 posted on 05/25/2008 6:44:31 AM PDT by metalurgist ("For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul?" No to Rudy)
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Steele said the boy had been sent to the principal's office because of disciplinary issues. When he returned, Portillo made him go to the front of the room as a form of punishment, she said.

I have an idea for how to treat the teacher.


103 posted on 05/25/2008 7:11:36 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative (1984 was supposed to be a warning not an instruction manual!)
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Is this one of those “proper schools” that you were referring to on the FLDS thread?


104 posted on 05/25/2008 7:12:24 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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vouchers


107 posted on 05/25/2008 7:30:12 AM PDT by purpleraine
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The behavior of this teacher is appalling. Granted, one child should never be allowed to disrupt the entire class. Furthermore, as a specialized teacher who has taught a number of Asperger’s kids, I can assure you that it takes a lot of skill to be able to successfully teach children with this disorder. Obviously, this teacher was in over her head, at the end of her rope, and lacked the skills to work with this child. That certainly doesn’t excuse her actions.

Hopefully, the parents will be able to find a private school for special needs children. This kiddo will probably never be able to function in a class of 24 kids but could handle a small class setting with teachers who know how to address his behavioral and academic needs.


111 posted on 05/25/2008 7:36:49 AM PDT by tamster
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aaahhh......what is that sweet scent drifting on the breeze? Flowers? Freshly mown hay? Neither, ‘tis but the smell of a lawsuit (or possible settlement) wafting gently ‘cross the beak of a barrister, newly minted and hungry for prey.
Carborundum et Legalas
113 posted on 05/25/2008 7:40:14 AM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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another victim of childhood vaccinations. (well that is what I have read on numerous postings).


121 posted on 05/25/2008 8:25:55 AM PDT by television is just wrong
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This type of behavior just makes me sick. I have Asperger’s, so I know it is difficult enough to deal with without having an idiot teacher pull a stunt like this.


134 posted on 05/25/2008 9:07:26 AM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory. - George Patton)
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Rescue the kid...get him in a place where he belongs...and where he won't destroy a whole year of kindergarten for other kids.

There needs to be a balance. This child's “rights” should not take precedence over the “rights” of other children; and this child needs help which cannot be provided in this classroom.

151 posted on 05/25/2008 10:12:33 AM PDT by bannie (clintons CHEAT! It's their only weapon.; & Barry/Barack has two faces.)
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And yet, here on Free Republic, the premier place where compassionate conservatives come to express themselves, you see some posters persist in mocking retarded people.

And when ask to desist, refuse to do so.

Mods, to my knowledge, do not admonish the mockers.

And so, of course, it continues.

Cool.


164 posted on 05/25/2008 11:28:24 AM PDT by pilipo (I am officially a man without a country.)
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This teacher needs to be fired. Her proper course of action would have been to take Alex to the principal’s office and then lock the classroom door.

Clearly, there needs to be separate classrooms (and maybe separate buildings) for kids who are constant distractions and who are incapable of functioning in a normal group setting. It is not fair to the rest of the kids to have to be subjected to kids who cannot control themselves.

Kids like Alex need to be warehoused together and supervised by people who can deal with them. Mental health professionals can then determine if there is hope for a return to a normal school setting for these kids and if so, develop the appropriate program. Those kids who cannot be normalized should remain in the holding pen and given whatever meds they need and whatever instruction they can handle, sort of like a typical inner-city school. As long as the hours are the same as they are for the regular school, the parents probably won’t care.


187 posted on 05/27/2008 12:19:37 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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In the teacher's dealing with the child, she should have considered the ideas of "saving face" and confidentiality such as dealing with the child through the principal and the child's parents.

I just finished teaching a college class. It was a 100 level class which had basically freshman and some sophomores. I had a few kids I had to deal with such as being caught playing on the Internet during the lecture. I usually talked them on the side in private to let them know that was unacceptable and they need to pay attention. I stayed away from public admonishments.
201 posted on 05/27/2008 8:53:50 PM PDT by CORedneck
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