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Manson ranch to be searched for bodies
UPI ^ | 10 May 2008

Posted on 05/18/2008 9:42:14 PM PDT by hole_n_one

Manson ranch to be searched for bodies

Published: May 10, 2008 at 9:26 PM

INDEPENDENCE, Calif., May 10 (UPI) -- Authorities say they will dig at a desert ranch in California once used by 1960s convicted killer and cult leader Charles Manson in search of bodies.

Inyo County Sheriff Bill Lutze issued a statement Friday saying an earlier search of Barker Ranch, located in Death Valley 150 miles west of Las Vegas, utilizing a cadaver dog and detection equipment was inconclusive, the Las Vegas Review-Journal reported Saturday.

"There was no consistent response from the dogs that searched, and no conclusive findings from the soil samplings tested by top experts in the field," Lutze said. "Therefore, I believe the only way to determine once and for all whether there are bodies buried at Barker Ranch from the time of the Manson family is to proceed with limited excavation in a very few areas."

Authorities are to begin about four days of digging on May 20, the newspaper reported.

Manson, now 73 and serving a life sentence in a California prison, and his followers wound up at Barker Ranch and nearby Myers Ranch after a series of slayings in Los Angeles, including the killing of actress Sharon Tate. There have been rumors for years that other Manson family victims are buried on the Barker property.


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KEYWORDS: barkerranch; charlesmanson; manson
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Digging commences tomorrow morning..........


1 posted on 05/18/2008 9:42:15 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: hole_n_one; All
Allies in War
By David Horowitz
FrontPageMagazine.com | Monday, September 17, 2001:

ON THE MORNING OF THE ATTACKS on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, along with a million other readers of the New York Times including many who would never be able to read the paper again, I opened its pages to be confronted by a color photo showing a middle-aged couple holding hands and affecting a defiant look at the camera. The article was headlined in an irony that could not have been more poignant, "No Regrets For A Love Of Explosives."

The couple pictured were Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, former leaders of the 1960s’ Weather Underground, America’s first terrorist cult. One of their bombing targets, as it happened, was the Pentagon.

"I don’t regret setting bombs," Ayers was quoted in the opening line of the Times profile; "I feel we didn’t do enough." In 1969, Ayers and his wife convened a "War Council" in Flint Michigan, whose purpose was to launch a military front inside the United States with the purpose of helping Third World [Maoist-communist] revolutionaries conquer and destroy it.

Taking charge of the podium, dressed in high-heeled boots and a leather mini-skirt – her signature uniform – Dorhn incited the assembled radicals to join the war against "Amerikkka" and create chaos and destruction in the "belly of the beast."

Her voice rising to a fevered pitch, Dohrn raised three fingers in a "fork salute" to mass murderer Charles Manson whom she proposed as a symbol to her troops. Referring to the helpless victims of the Manson Family as the "Tate Eight" (the most famous was actress Sharon Tate) Dohrn shouted:

"Dig It. First they killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them, they even shoved a fork into a victim’s stomach! Wild!"

(big snip)

Today William Ayers is not merely an author favored by the New York Times, but a Distinguished Professor of Education at the University of Illinois, Chicago.

His Lady Macbeth [Bernardine Dohrn] is not merely a lawyer, but a member of the American Bar Association’s governing elite, as well as the director of Northwestern University’s Children and Family Justice Center.
[it's true! see: http://www.law.northwestern.edu/aclu/]

Article: Allies in War -by David Horowitz
FrontPageMagazine.com | Monday, September 17, 2001
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=63512670-BF7C-42A0-B41D-5D0FB9E09C09

The Center for Public Intellectuals & The University of Illinois-Chicago (UIC)
April 19th-20th, 2002, Conference

[Participants include: William/Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn, Sen Barack Obama]

April 19th-20th, 2002
Chicago Illini Union
828 S. Wolcott

This conference is part of the Center's mission of helping to create a more engaged civil society, working towards social change, fostering coalitions between theorists and activists, and combating anti-intellectualism in contemporary culture. It will be both a celebration of ideas and a rigorous examination of the roles and responsibilities that intellectuals play in society.

I. Why Do Ideas Matter? (a keynote panel)

We introduce the “meta” theme of the conference by hearing “success stories” from diverse voices discussing their experiences intervening intellectually.

Timuel Black, Chicago activist; Prof. Emeritus, City Colleges of Chicago
Lonnie Bunch, President, Chicago Historical Society
Bernardine Dohrn, Northwestern University Law School, Children and Family Justice Center
Gerald Graff, UIC, College of Liberal Arts & Sciences
Richard Rorty, Stanford University, Philosophy

III. Lunch and Public Encounters

Alternative breakout tours led by Chicago activists. Tours of Bronzeville and other communities, and visits to organizations that are working on partnering theorists with activists.

IV. Intellectuals in Times of Crisis
Experiences and applications of intellectual work in urgent situations.

William Ayers, UIC, College of Education; author of Fugitive Days
Douglass Cassel, Northwestern University, Center for International Human Rights
Cathy Cohen, University of Chicago, Political Science
Salim Muwakkil, Chicago Tribune; In These Times
Barack Obama, Illinois State Senator
Barbara Ransby, UIC, African-American Studies (moderator)

The Center for Public Intellectuals
University of Illinois-Chicago (UIC):
http://www.uic.edu/classes/las/las400/conferencealt.htm

3 posted on 05/18/2008 9:50:08 PM PDT by Eye On The Left
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To: hole_n_one
Correction.....

Digging starts on Tuesday, May 20th.

4 posted on 05/18/2008 9:50:14 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: hole_n_one

I shutter to think that one day, some of these animals will be released from prison. They should have been put down 30 years ago.


5 posted on 05/18/2008 9:50:26 PM PDT by Veggie Todd (Were those magic grits?)
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To: Eye On The Left

I think you’re on the wrong thread.


6 posted on 05/18/2008 9:52:56 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: hole_n_one

Try reading it again...with your glasses on.


7 posted on 05/18/2008 9:55:12 PM PDT by Eye On The Left
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To: hole_n_one; Inyo-Mono; BurbankKarl

Interesting.

(hi, h_n_o!)

Who owns Barker now, anyway.


8 posted on 05/18/2008 9:58:30 PM PDT by lainie ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: hole_n_one
Using cadaver dogs to find bodies buried in the desert since 1969?

Really?

9 posted on 05/18/2008 10:00:29 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: The KG9 Kid

yeah, really, what’s the hurry, it’s only been nearly 40 yrs.


10 posted on 05/18/2008 10:03:03 PM PDT by tina07 (In loving memory of my father,WWII Vet. CBI 10/16/42 - 12/17/45, d. 11/1/85)
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To: F15Eagle

me too, I was 12 and visiting my grandmother in NYC and saw Sharon Tate’s picture on the front page of the paper, Daily News or the Post most likely..


11 posted on 05/18/2008 10:04:45 PM PDT by tina07 (In loving memory of my father,WWII Vet. CBI 10/16/42 - 12/17/45, d. 11/1/85)
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To: Eye On The Left
I hit abuse because it did not appear to have any relevance to the subject at hand.

Apparently the mod on duty agreed.

If I missed some pearl in your response, I'm sorry.

I'm sure you'll find several more inappropriate threads to post it to.

How much effort is involved anyway.......

copy
paste

12 posted on 05/18/2008 10:05:42 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: hole_n_one

Well, don’t I look like an idiot.


13 posted on 05/18/2008 10:07:19 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: lainie

I do.


14 posted on 05/18/2008 10:08:01 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: lainie
Who owns Barker now, anyway.

According to Wikipedia, the National Park Service does.

15 posted on 05/18/2008 10:12:31 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: hole_n_one

told you...you own part of it too.


16 posted on 05/18/2008 10:14:16 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: hole_n_one
"During the investigation, documented by prosecutor Vincent Bugliosi in his book, Helter Skelter, the motive for the killings eluded prosecutors for a while, and even when they discovered it, no one could believe it.

Manson had a philosophy that blacks would rise up against whites, but they needed an instigator such as himself to get the "revolution" started. He used his followers as an extension of himself. Throughout the trial, Bugliosi's team wondered how this skinny, bizarre man had managed to acquire so many female disciples, some of whom demonstrated outside the courtroom and shaved their heads when he did, and some of whom claimed they would kill or die for him."
http://www.crimelibrary.com/criminal_mind/psychology/s_k_groupies/3.html

"I don’t regret setting bombs," Ayers was quoted in the opening line of the Times profile; "I feel we didn’t do enough." In 1969, Ayers and his wife convened a "War Council" in Flint Michigan, whose purpose was to launch a military front inside the United States with the purpose of helping Third World [Maoist-communist] revolutionaries conquer and destroy it.

Taking charge of the podium, dressed in high-heeled boots and a leather mini-skirt – her signature uniform – Dorhn incited the assembled radicals to join the war against "Amerikkka" and create chaos and destruction in the "belly of the beast."

Her voice rising to a fevered pitch, Dohrn raised three fingers in a "fork salute" to mass murderer Charles Manson whom she proposed as a symbol to her troops. Referring to the helpless victims of the Manson Family as the "Tate Eight" (the most famous was actress Sharon Tate) Dohrn shouted:

"Dig It. First they killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them, they even shoved a fork into a victim’s stomach! Wild!"

Article: Allies in War -by David Horowitz
FrontPageMagazine.com | Monday, September 17, 2001
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=63512670-BF7C-42A0-B41D-5D0FB9E09C09

17 posted on 05/18/2008 10:15:41 PM PDT by Eye On The Left
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To: tina07

My birthday is August 9; Sharon Tate’s murder, Nixon’s resignation, Nagasaki....


18 posted on 05/18/2008 10:18:45 PM PDT by Loud Mime (Liberalism is a Socialist Disease)
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To: Eye On The Left
It must have been that 4th Mojito I had.

lol!

Thanks for the MORE than relevant info!

19 posted on 05/18/2008 10:19:00 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: hole_n_one
You're welcome, buddy. No hard feelings. Here's something else I found:

"Helter Skelter would begin, according to one of Charlie's devotees, 'with the black man going into white people's homes and ripping off the white people, physically destroying them. A couple of spades from Watts would come up into the Bel Air and Beverly Hills district...and just really wipe some people out, just cutting bodies up and smearing blood and writing things on the wall in blood...all kinds of super-atrocious crimes that would really make the white man mad...until there was open revolution in the streets, until they finally won and took over. Then the black man would assume the white man's karma. He would then be the establishment...'"

http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/notorious/manson/skelter_6.html

20 posted on 05/18/2008 10:32:20 PM PDT by Eye On The Left
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