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Posted on 05/13/2008 2:15:36 PM PDT by floriduh voter
http://www.news-journalonline.com/NewsJournalOnline/News/Headlines/frtHEAD02051208.htm
Freepers, Evelyn Lynne of the Fla Legislature is not looking out for Florida families. Then again, by the time politicians get to Tallahassee, they go there to re-invent the wheel.
Senate Bill 2532 is a way to separate mothers from their children. The term "custody" is replaced by parenting plans that are costly because of the amount of people dragged into the dissolution of marriage and custody issues. The parent with the biggest cash flow wins. They might not be the best parent but it's all about who can keep paying and paying for parenting plans that go far beyond what is necessary.
My question is: what if neither parent can afford the pricey parenting plan? Does the child end up in Foster Care or do either of the parents land in jail?
There's a PROTEST IN TALLAHASSEE tomorrow at 10:00 am in front of the CAPITAL BLDG. If you are near Tallahassee, drop by.
Divorce is bad enough but re-assigning custody according to the one who has the most Monopoly Hotels is wrong.
Ms. Evelyn has no shame. I'm thinkin' the psychologist lobby is in her pocket. Experts paid by the parents (in the thousands of dollars) will all benefit financially every time a parenting plan is initiated.
Gov. Crist can veto SB 2532. If you want the State of Florida to stay out of your wallet, urge him to vetoSB 2532.
It's bad for children too. Mothers who are fit and love their kids are losing them because the father essentially outbids the mom. That is justice denied. It's kids to the highest bidder. Sorry, but kids need their moms, especially girls. The only winners are the EXPERTS the State of Florida forces the parents to subsidize.
Charlie Crist's fax 850-922-4292.
HERE’S THE URL:
http://www.news-journalonline.com/NewsJournalOnline/News/Headlines/frtHEAD02051208.htm
“Sorry, but kids need their moms, especially girls”
They need dad just as much if not more sometimes. Man bashing crap.
My first thought is that I like the idea that divorce is made less attractive because of the added costs. My second thought is that men are invariably the ones who lose custody, regardless of their be the more fit parent.
In a strange way, this would restore some equity to fathers which they currently don’t have.
Logic considering the otherwise odd article.
Not familiar with the Florida bill. But Tennessee has parenting plans, and they are standardized. They make you think about how you handle holidays and school breaks and they specifically define vistitation rights and times.
I would think these would reduce the amount of additional litigation.
Now if TN would just pass the presumption of equal custody law. Sounds like Florida needs to too.
That should read, “...regardless of their being the more fit parent.”
I have a friend who is a woman and a lawyer in DC and she now specializes in child custody cases. (Formerly she was a defense lawyer.)
She says that over the years she has gradually switched from handling mostly women clients to mostly men... because of what she claims is the gross injustice built into the system against men.
You forgot the 'barf alert'....didn't hardly get thru the first paragraph before I hit the nanny state, marxist garbage! No wonder Crist sounds like a marxist nowadays, he has to deal with these maroons! Won't be in Tallahassee, but g'luck w/ the protest, I'll be there in spirit! My recommendation is for you to get McCollum on your side, he should be there. I can't imagine this stuff fits his values!
Says who? I'm a mother, and recognize this to be what it is: emotional pandering.
Who says kids need their moms more than their dads?
It’s not man bashing crap. Apparently, you’re not a little girl.
At first I thought that infomercial guy, Billy Mays, had to change his words.
Then I figured out that Bill Clinton has decided to stop using loaded words.
It’s a psychologist full employment bill.
It’s a bad bill. Girls need their moms for a role model imo. I have a mom but missed not having sisters. Girls need their mothers and what’s wrong with that opinion? If you don’t think girls need their moms, you’re unique.
Sorry I left out the barf alert. I guess I assumed you’d already know since it’s about the Fla Senate.
If you don't think boys need their fathers, you're insane.
Point made...point taken!
Agreed, that's the way I see it as well, in fact...It’s a pop psychologist full employment bill.
No, but little girls need daddy and numerous studies have shown if they do not have a loving father figure they attach to the first male that comes along that pays them any attention and become sexually active much easier in search of validation and if that attention turns bad/sexual they have no baseline reference to know to run from the loser.
The best answer is they need both. No fault divorce is crap and has done more to undermine our culture than any one thing.
No, but little girls need daddy and numerous studies have shown if they do not have a loving father figure they attach to the first male that comes along that pays them any attention and become sexually active much easier in search of validation and if that attention turns bad/sexual they have no baseline reference to know to run from the loser.
The best answer is they need both. No fault divorce is crap and has done more to undermine our culture than any one thing.
Of course they need their mothers.
But there tends to be a presumption that they need them more than their fathers.
And that is not a true assumption. They need both parents.
Of course they need both parents but sometimes, the parents never married or they are getting a divorce. I wonder if this parenting plan does away with tender years doctrines which leave the child where they are familiar or if the highest bidder can yank the child away at any age from all that child has ever known.
Did you know that she was double dipping salaries in Tallahassee and on a University Board she lobbied for? She got caught so she stopped. There's 300 mil of double and triple dipping going on in Florida by state employees.
Is it any wonder Evelyn wants psychologists to get a piece of the pie?
Here’s the bill. By deleting custodial and non-custodial parent language from the F. Statutes, it sounds like a big step backwards. There should be a designation of custodial and non-custodial in the Fl. Statutes. (sounds like more court involvement too).
http://www.flsenate.gov/cgi-bin/view_page.pl?Tab=session&Submenu=1&FT=D&File=sb2532.html&Directory=session/2008/Senate/bills/billtext/html/
There will be a Tribunal to report to.
Ping. Kids aren’t condos yet but almost...time sharing children. Psychologists who demand name and phone number for complaints against them. This is a good bill for psychologist-pedofiles because anonymity is dead.
I wish parents could settle their differences at least until the kids are grown. The children should be the priority, not the parents.
Children (Both boys and girls) tend towards higher rates of promiscuity when the father is absent from the home. Specifically; girls without a father in the home have higher rate of teen pregnancy than those with their father present. Additionally; the vast majority of prison inmates come from single parent homes and resided with the biological mother.
Would you like to discuss the rate of sexual assaults committed by the "Mother's Boyfriends?"
Please grow up and stop thinking like a "Little Girl."
Did you know in Florida psychologists don’t have to be licensed? You try to distort the subject at hand in the usual ways. I’m talking about treating children like Monopoly Hotels and going to the highest bidder. When men can breastfeed, you be sure and start a thread on that.
Heh
Oftentimes, parents are having an amicable divorce but once they are lawyered up, the divorce goes to another level. Divorce attorneys have horrible jobs but they do it for the money and many burn out. Sometimes attorneys make things worse while they claim to know the ropes. Can you say billable hours????
It’s a bad bill unless you happen to like Tribunals and unlicensed psychologists to evaluate the condo-kids. Time Sharing of kids - kids in Florida will be treated like condominiums. Evelyn reminds me of Senator Jim King who will have to take trucknutz off his car per Florida Statutes. Florida has so many major problems but the Senate doesn’t fix them. They veer in other directions to avoid solving the big problems.
This arrangement has as an added benefit: we don't have to become bitter activists.
You are a self righteous pontificator and your poor spouse has to put up with that day in and day out???? Just askin'.
In the case of these quicky/convenience divorces, the children should get ownership of the house/place of residence, while the mother and father should have to take turns moving in and out every two weeks. That way, the kids have a stable environment. I mean, if it isn’t hard on the kids to pack up and move so often, it shouldn’t be hard on the parents, right?
Some people mistake their own good fortune for proof that they are better than everyone else. Don’t let it bother you. We know better.
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(1) It is the intent of the Legislature that vigorous enforcement of licensure regulation for all health care professions is a state priority in order to protect Florida residents and visitors from the potentially serious and dangerous consequences of receiving medical and health care services from unlicensed persons whose professional education and training and other relevant qualifications have not been approved through the issuance of a license by the appropriate regulatory board or the department when there is no board. The unlicensed practice of a health care profession or the performance or delivery of medical or health care services to patients in this state without a valid, active license to practice that profession, regardless of the means of the performance or delivery of such services, is strictly prohibited.
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(a) When the department has probable cause to believe that any person not licensed by the department, or the appropriate regulatory board within the department, has violated any provision of this chapter or any statute that relates to the practice of a profession regulated by the department, or any rule adopted pursuant thereto, the department may issue and deliver to such person a notice to cease and desist from such violation. In addition, the department may issue and deliver a notice to cease and desist to any person who aids and abets the unlicensed practice of a profession by employing such unlicensed person. The issuance of a notice to cease and desist shall not constitute agency action for which a hearing under ss. 120.569 and 120.57 may be sought. For the purpose of enforcing a cease and desist order, the department may file a proceeding in the name of the state seeking issuance of an injunction or a writ of mandamus against any person who violates any provisions of such order.
(b) In addition to the remedies under paragraph (a), the department may impose by citation an administrative penalty not to exceed $5,000 per incident. The citation shall be issued to the subject and shall contain the subject's name and any other information the department determines to be necessary to identify the subject, a brief factual statement, the sections of the law allegedly violated, and the penalty imposed. If the subject does not dispute the matter in the citation with the department within 30 days after the citation is served, the citation shall become a final order of the department. The department may adopt rules to implement this section. The penalty shall be a fine of not less than $500 nor more than $5,000 as established by rule of the department. Each day that the unlicensed practice continues after issuance of a notice to cease and desist constitutes a separate violation. The department shall be entitled to recover the costs of investigation and prosecution in addition to the fine levied pursuant to the citation. Service of a citation may be made by personal service or by mail to the subject at the subject's last known address or place of practice. If the department is required to seek enforcement of the cease and desist or agency order, it shall be entitled to collect its attorney's fees and costs.
(c) In addition to or in lieu of any other administrative remedy, the department may seek the imposition of a civil penalty through the circuit court for any violation for which the department may issue a notice to cease and desist. The civil penalty shall be no less than $500 and no more than $5,000 for each offense. The court may also award to the prevailing party court costs and reasonable attorney fees and, in the event the department prevails, may also award reasonable costs of investigation and prosecution.
(d) In addition to the administrative and civil remedies under paragraphs (b) and (c) and in addition to the criminal violations and penalties listed in the individual health care practice acts:
1. It is a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084, to practice, attempt to practice, or offer to practice a health care profession without an active, valid Florida license to practice that profession. Practicing without an active, valid license also includes practicing on a suspended, revoked, or void license, but does not include practicing, attempting to practice, or offering to practice with an inactive or delinquent license for a period of up to 12 months which is addressed in subparagraph 3. Applying for employment for a position that requires a license without notifying the employer that the person does not currently possess a valid, active license to practice that profession shall be deemed to be an attempt or offer to practice that health care profession without a license. Holding oneself out, regardless of the means of communication, as able to practice a health care profession or as able to provide services that require a health care license shall be deemed to be an attempt or offer to practice such profession without a license. The minimum penalty for violating this subparagraph shall be a fine of $1,000 and a minimum mandatory period of incarceration of 1 year.
2. It is a felony of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084, to practice a health care profession without an active, valid Florida license to practice that profession when such practice results in serious bodily injury. For purposes of this section, "serious bodily injury" means death; brain or spinal damage; disfigurement; fracture or dislocation of bones or joints; limitation of neurological, physical, or sensory function; or any condition that required subsequent surgical repair. The minimum penalty for violating this subparagraph shall be a fine of $1,000 and a minimum mandatory period of incarceration of 1 year.
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(3) Because all enforcement costs should be covered by professions regulated by the department, the department shall impose, upon initial licensure and each licensure renewal, a special fee of $5 per licensee to fund efforts to combat unlicensed activity. Such fee shall be in addition to all other fees collected from each licensee. The department shall make direct charges to the Medical Quality Assurance Trust Fund by profession. The department shall seek board advice regarding enforcement methods and strategies. The department shall directly credit the Medical Quality Assurance Trust Fund, by profession, with the revenues received from the department's efforts to enforce licensure provisions. The department shall include all financial and statistical data resulting from unlicensed activity enforcement as a separate category in the quarterly management report provided for in s. 456.025. For an unlicensed activity account, a balance which remains at the end of a renewal cycle may, with concurrence of the applicable board and the department, be transferred to the operating fund account of that profession. The department shall also use these funds to inform and educate consumers generally on the importance of using licensed health care practitioners.
(4) The provisions of this section apply only to health care professional practice acts administered by the department.
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Here's a clue--psychologists are health care professionals.
Best,
Etixos
And she's been doing it with a smile for 25 years. Amazing, huh?
We are a fundamentally married couple for over forty years and are on the other opposite of bitter, but annoyed at self-righteousness. Our close personal friend, Floriduh Voter, is the opposite of bitter, one who smiles in the worst of adversity. Yes we are activists, and darned well pro-life as is our ailing founder, Jim Robinson.
Aren't you?
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Perfect!
Thanks, but it’s actually similar to an idea I heard Dr. Laura offer many moons ago.
Yeah, it's all luck, isn't it. No hard work, commitment, loyalty, persistence, selflessness...none of that. Just plain, dumb luck.
We sure are activists, and FV is one of the best and most active among us. I’m proud to be lumped in with the likes of her.
But no, it’s God rewarding you for being better than everyone else. Other people die young, have financial problems, marry someone who changes in ways that are impossible to live with, etc. But not you. Nothing bad can happen to you, because you’re better than everyone else. And the fact that nothing bad happens to you serves as proof that you’re superior in every way.
Activist? Perhaps. I have been to the Capitol in Tallahassee carrying a sign.
Bitter? Never.
Perhaps I misread floriduh’s insistence that “…kids need their moms, especially girls….” to the exclusion of all else as bitter divorcé manbashing. Maybe.
I fail to see what JimRob’s pro-life stance has to do with this issue. Perhaps you were exercising the logically fallacy of Appeal to Authority?
Either way, it looks like we have a bunch of hens here who are buddies, do I’ll let you enjoy your clucking and scratching on this thread.
Psychologists do not have to be licensed. They can use crystal balls for all we know....
You revealed your gender. I thought you were a man. Your posts were loaded with testerone and male pride. Who takes out the garbage? (see now we are just playing)
No maybe about it. You did. FV cares about people. She doesn't need to share their experiences to share their concern. She has long advocated for intact families. That includes mothers and fathers. But that is not what the main issue is here. This is a bill that will tend to separate children from their mothers. It will have other negative effects too, but the most common effect will be denying children the nurturing of their mothers. FV is right to say that's a bad thing. I fail to see how anyone could disagree, unless they're holding a grudge against FV for her well-known support of the right to life on other threads. She does have a following of disrupters who pride themselves on arguing against her at every turn. You look like one of those clowns.
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