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Locke High School in South Los Angeles locked down after huge brawl
Los Angeles Times ^ | May 10, 2008 | Howard Blume and Mitchell Landsberg

Posted on 05/10/2008 4:46:19 AM PDT by Haddit

A fight between rival groups of black and Latino students at Locke High School quickly escalated into a campus-wide melee Friday, with as many as 600 students brawling until police restored calm with billy clubs.

The troubled campus in South Los Angeles was locked down after the fight broke out at 12:55 p.m., as students returned from lunch to their fifth-period classes. Overwhelmed school officials called Los Angeles police for help, but students and faculty said it took about half an hour before dozens of officers, many in riot gear, restored order.

"The kids were crazy, running from place to place, jumping on other kids," said Reggie Smith, the school's band director, who said he ran to pull his students from the melee. "Some of my kids were crying because they were walking to class with friends and they got jumped."

Los Angeles Unified School District police said that there are only two officers assigned to Locke but that the school police force brought in about 60 officers after receiving word of the brawl. The Los Angeles Police Department also dispatched more than a dozen patrol cars and about 50 officers.snip

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: black; diversity; immigration; lapd; latino; losangeles; melee; publikskoolz; riot; schoolviolence
In recent years, melees have broken out periodically at many campuses with a black and Latino presence, including in Los Angeles, Lynwood and Compton. There have been fights between Latinos and Armenians in other areas that led to campus lockdowns.
1 posted on 05/10/2008 4:46:19 AM PDT by Haddit
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To: Haddit

Just getting along...


2 posted on 05/10/2008 4:49:28 AM PDT by Libloather (May is Liberal Awareness Month.)
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To: Haddit
With an enrollment of 2,600, Locke is 65% Latino and 35% African American.

Gee, I wonder what the problem is. Heck, give `em amnesty. That'll fix it.

3 posted on 05/10/2008 4:56:54 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Haddit

People with sense. People with intelligence. People who value civilization. People who value liberty. GET YOUR KIDS OUT OF GOVERNMENT SCHOOLS!!!


4 posted on 05/10/2008 5:03:11 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: arthurus

It’s not always possible.


5 posted on 05/10/2008 5:05:13 AM PDT by allmost
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To: TLI
With an enrollment of 2,600, Locke is 65% Latino and 35% African American.

Musta' killed off all the whites and Asians...

6 posted on 05/10/2008 5:05:32 AM PDT by johnny7
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To: johnny7
Musta' killed off all the whites and Asians...

Oh, that was several years ago. We must move on...

7 posted on 05/10/2008 5:07:44 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: johnny7
Dey got ganked tens years ago where you been?
8 posted on 05/10/2008 5:07:55 AM PDT by allmost
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To: Haddit

LOCKE DOWN!


9 posted on 05/10/2008 5:15:08 AM PDT by SIDEWALKING
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To: Haddit; kellynla; gubamyster; HiJinx
I'm glad to be out of SoCal. I don't want to be around when that ethnic volcano explodes.
10 posted on 05/10/2008 5:15:16 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Haddit
You pulled the quote FTA I was going to pull. This isn't at all surprising. All anyone needs to do is watch the History Channel's "Gangland" series about modern gangs, especially the ethnic ones, Cosa Nostra generally not included. In California a mostly unrecognized race war has developed between the blacks and Hispanics, with Hispanics violently evicting blacks from formerly black neighborhoods. It was reflected politically in the DemonRat primaries when Hillary won in California with a huge majority of the Hispanic vote and almost none of the black vote. The same dynamic may hold true in the general election, where it will help McCain against Obama. The blacks and the browns are definitely not united.
11 posted on 05/10/2008 5:19:38 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: allmost

It is always possible.It is a matter of priorities. We homeschooled 3 at a time when both of us worked and neither of us made much at all. It was a pain in the butt and no one got fat. We actually skimped on food occasionally. But we did the job and the results are most satisfying. It helps if you have no TV in the house.


12 posted on 05/10/2008 5:22:12 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: Haddit

We need to apply some innovative liberal solutions to this problem. But it might take some money.

1. Midnight basketball
2. Make condoms available on request
3. reduce classroom size
4. retrain teachers
5. team sensitivity teaching
6. more diversity training
7. expand school lunch subsidies


13 posted on 05/10/2008 5:22:51 AM PDT by Bertha Fanation
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To: libstripper

Hispanics have no white guilt. They don’t like blacks and are quite willing to say so and then act on it.

Historically, thru the 50s race riots consisted primarily of whites attacking blacks. From the 60s through the 90s they consisted of blacks attacking whites and Asians.

We may be headed back towards an era of blacks as the recipients, only with Hispanics as the aggressors.

The hilarious aspect of this is that liberals are convinced that all “people of color” are inherently allied against evil “people of pallor.” In reality, Hispanics and most other minorities dislike blacks much more than they hate whites.

Another fun factor is watching liberals trying to ignore Hispanic vs. black conflict, as it conflicts so greatly with their theories. CA authorities and the LAPD are desperately trying to pretend that a general attack on blacks by latino gangs is not in progress in that city.


14 posted on 05/10/2008 5:25:52 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves. - A. Lincoln)
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To: Sherman Logan

Exactly. How can there be a racial conflict, absent evil white men?

Must be a legacy of slavery and colonialism......or something.


15 posted on 05/10/2008 5:45:06 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: TLI
With an enrollment of 2,600, Locke is 65% Latino and 35% African American.

Obviously, it's whitey fault

16 posted on 05/10/2008 5:50:10 AM PDT by Popman ("When the character of a man is not clear to you, look at his friends.")
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To: Bertha Fanation

Oh gosh...you forgot the most important ones ...

VALUES DISCUSSIONS AND EXERCISES.

and.....

SELF CONFIDENCE BUILDING DISCUSSIONS

ha.


17 posted on 05/10/2008 5:55:14 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (WE NEED A TROOP SURGE IN CHICAGO !)
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To: Sherman Logan
In reality, Hispanics and most other minorities dislike blacks much more than they hate whites.

Well, after all they are La Raza, The Race. Just ask them.

18 posted on 05/10/2008 6:07:06 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Haddit

Brawling really is a distraction from studying for the AP exams....


19 posted on 05/10/2008 6:21:22 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: TLI

“With an enrollment of 2,600, Locke is 65% Latino and 35% African American.”


Why aren’t they busing whites in to that school for racial balance? /s


20 posted on 05/10/2008 6:23:20 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: TLI
When did hispanic become a race?

Speaking a language does not create a race.

But if a recession is defined as "feeling bad about the economy" I guess speaking spanish defines a race.

Close enough for gummint work.

21 posted on 05/10/2008 6:32:01 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: arthurus

“It is always possible.It is a matter of priorities.”

I pay $9000 a year in property taxes on a $360,000 house in Corpus Christi. I am pretty ticked about it. I refuse to pay that money and get nothing in return for it. Our kids go to public school and we take an active part in it. I went to public school and I graduated from Annapolis with merit. The public schools will not get better if smart people like us let the teachers get away with making the system a jobs program.


22 posted on 05/10/2008 6:32:41 AM PDT by ThunderStruck94
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To: Haddit

My money is on the Mexicans! If things go against them, they can call in the Mexican Army. I doubt the Feds would even respond when their Army comes in.


23 posted on 05/10/2008 6:45:01 AM PDT by glide625
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To: Travis McGee
I'm not ready to “throw in the towel”...
we just need no nonsense conservatives to run for and get elected to public office in not only CA but around the country, locally, statewide and federally if we are ever going to turn this mess around.

I don't know where you're living now but if you think your state is immune you're kidding yourself.

This is an epidemic and it's spreading throughout the country!

"Improvise, adapt, overcome!"

Semper Fi,
Kelly

24 posted on 05/10/2008 6:56:48 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Haddit; All

Did any of you attend a school that looked this much like a prison?

School population: 5% "other"...

Is this "affirmative action" brought to maturity?

25 posted on 05/10/2008 7:11:19 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
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To: TXnMA

“Did any of you attend a school that looked this much like a prison?”

Oh hell no! THAT is their school? There is no way when hell freezes over that I would send my kid there!!!


26 posted on 05/10/2008 7:23:18 AM PDT by Morgana (Muslims.......I can't believe these people are that crazy without alcohol!)
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To: Haddit

This is a perfect example that “our diversity is our strength” is a lie, and a dangerous one at that. For many decades, this nation knew otherwise, if a nation can “know” anything. There are so few things that bind us to each other anymore.


27 posted on 05/10/2008 7:29:43 AM PDT by PghBaldy (Michelle O's handlers: "Get me white people...!!!")
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To: Haddit

Quick! find a way to blame Whitey!


28 posted on 05/10/2008 7:56:38 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: johnny7
“Musta’ killed off all the whites and Asians”

Yeah they got rid of the racists and trouble makers years ago. It's now a paradise.

29 posted on 05/10/2008 7:56:48 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Haddit
With an enrollment of 2,600, Locke is 65% Latino and 35% African American.

With no evil whites there, why isn't it a wonderful paradise where everyone holds hands, respects each other, and is friends?

30 posted on 05/10/2008 8:15:21 AM PDT by Nea Wood (I'm not a bad Christian because I refuse to join you in giving other people's stuff away.)
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To: glide625; Travis McGee
Having been through a couple of race riots while working at the County Jail, I'd say it's a safe bet to go with the Mexicans.

They would instantly drop that North vs. South Mexican gang mentality the moment an opportunity arose to attack blacks.

31 posted on 05/10/2008 8:33:35 AM PDT by investigateworld ( Abortion stops a beating heart.)
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To: Travis McGee

If prison culture is any indicator, Hispanics are much more organized in group violence than blacks.

Whites more than anyone as a rule but on the outside whites are neutered....or is it “spayed”?


32 posted on 05/10/2008 8:37:15 AM PDT by wardaddy (FR's Mormon Haters are the new Immigration Thread harpies)
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To: investigateworld

you beat me by 4 minutes..lol


33 posted on 05/10/2008 8:38:03 AM PDT by wardaddy (FR's Mormon Haters are the new Immigration Thread harpies)
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To: Haddit

One way around this is “escorted classes”, in which entire classrooms of students are given the same classes for that year, then class times are staggered at 5 minute intervals.

Students arrive at a lockdown campus, and each group assembles at a different entrance, where a teacher is waiting. The students have a 10 minute window in which to assemble. Then the teacher escorts them to their first class.

It sounds very complicated, but it is less so if teachers are given timed pagers.

As an example, from 7:20am to 7:30am, four groups of students assemble at four entrances. Any students not of that group are not permitted on school grounds. At 7:30, each of the four groups are taken to the class taught by that teacher, for an hour. Then the 7:30am-7:40am four groups start to assemble at the entrances.

One hour later, the 7:20-7:30 classes are escorted by their 1st period classes to their 2nd period class, where their new teacher is waiting. The 1st period teachers then return to their classroom, to await the arrival of their next class.

It seems terribly complicated, but in practice it can be done efficiently. And while it is much like prison, in the long run, it can help keep students out of prison.


34 posted on 05/10/2008 8:47:39 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Haddit

I can’t imagine sending my child into this everyday.


35 posted on 05/10/2008 8:56:28 AM PDT by AuntB (Vote Obama! ..........Because ya can't blame 'the man' when you are the 'man'.... Wanda Sikes)
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To: Haddit

Summary
Alain Leroy Locke Senior High Email

Public - Grades: 9-12
District: Los Angeles Unified

325 East 111th St.
Los Angeles, CA 90061-3003 (map)
(323) 757-9381

Schooldigger California State Ranking:
1139th (of 1416 public high schools)

Type: Regular school
Status: Operational
Locale: Large city

Total Students(2005 - 2006*): 3122
Fulltime teachers: 133.0
Student/Teacher Ratio: 23.5
Eligible for discounted/free lunch: 2489 ( 80 %) Am. Indian/Alaska Native: 2 ( 0 %)
Asian/Pacific Islander: 6 ( 0 %)
Hispanic: 2005 ( 64 %)
African American: 1107 ( 35 %)
White: 2 ( 0 %)
Unspecified: 0 ( 0 %)

* This is the most current data available from the U.S. Dept of Education
(Submit Updates)


36 posted on 05/10/2008 9:53:28 AM PDT by B4Ranch
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To: Haddit
Perhaps they should change the name of Hobbs Hall to Hobbes Hall and make this passage from Leviathan required reading:

Whatsoever therefore is consequent to a time of war, where every man is enemy to every man, the same consequent to the time wherein men live without other security than what their own strength and their own invention shall furnish them withal. In such condition there is no place for industry, because the fruit thereof is uncertain: and consequently no culture of the earth; no navigation, nor use of the commodities that may be imported by sea; no commodious building; no instruments of moving and removing such things as require much force; no knowledge of the face of the earth; no account of time; no arts; no letters; no society; and which is worst of all, continual fear, and danger of violent death; and the life of man, solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short.

Reading some Locke at Locke high school might also be useful.

37 posted on 05/10/2008 10:06:12 AM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: ThunderStruck94

The public schools will not get better unless there is substantial competition to them. The smart kids having alternative arrangements in sufficient numbers becomes competition. Then the public schools will improve. In the meantime it is unconscionable for intelligent parents to inflict public school on their children and on themselves. In public school you get little or no actual history. the math is questionable and depends on educational fad. English is simply not taught though a lot of social programming goes under the title.Your child may be very bright and get a lot on his own but much of that is in spite of the system and he would get so much more in an actually educational environment. He is being cheated in public school.


38 posted on 05/10/2008 3:32:10 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: wardaddy

Based on that, I’d expect hispanics to totally come out on top in places like Cali, but what about the SE, where hispanics will be the “second minority” for a few more decades? I’d call that an unstable formula.


39 posted on 05/10/2008 4:45:18 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Travis McGee

yep...hard to figure the outcome in seriously black places

plus...what will whites do?


40 posted on 05/10/2008 6:05:06 PM PDT by wardaddy (FR's Mormon Haters are the new Immigration Thread harpies)
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To: wardaddy

What’s the hispanic % in Memphis and Nashville? Those would be interestng tests.

Three way splits are inherently unstable. THink Bosnia, with the Croats, Muslims and Serbs.


41 posted on 05/10/2008 7:09:35 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Travis McGee

Here’s a very good article about gangs;

From LA Weekly
By Peter Landesman
Dec 12, 07
http://www.laweekly.com/news/news/la-gangs-nine-miles-and-spreading/17861/?page=1

“Recently, in Jordan Downs, a Grape Street clique rebuffed by a 14-year-old boy who refused to join gang-raped his 12-year-old sister, taped the attack, and showed the video to the boy. The boy gave in and joined. Older gang members and veteran police say the neighborhoods are codeless and anarchic. “The hood is lost because we ain’t got no guidance right now,” a hardcore Bounty Hunter Blood told me. “It’s just us young gangsters.”

The differences between black and Latino gangs are stark. And the black gang members I spoke with readily admit that the difference is fatal. Damien Hartfield, the former Bounty Hunter, explained, “Blacks do what they want. When Latinos go gangbanging they have a solid plan. Blacks don’t go to war like that. It’s spontaneous. Something just happens. Latinos make a call, make a plan. They have a structure.”

LAPD Chief Bratton admits he is bewildered by how anarchic L.A.’s black gangs have become.

“African-American violence is totally out of proportion to their numbers,” he said. “With Latinos, there is so much more family structure, while it’s not as if blacks rally around the African-American community just because they are black. They associate more with their gang colors than they do with their own color as African-Americans. It’s almost as if they lost identities as African-Americans.”

Watts and neighboring Compton, historically and famously black neighborhoods, are already roughly 70 percent Hispanic. Hispanic gangs know they don’t need to wage war against black gangs. They are happy to wait it out as black gangs sabotage themselves. Gangbangers in Watts tell me they know they can’t keep up. And they know their fate.
“Ten years from now gangs from all other races besides Hispanic are going to be pushed out of everywhere,” Andre says. “


42 posted on 05/10/2008 8:41:53 PM PDT by Haddit (A Hunter Conservative)
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To: Travis McGee

Memphis proper is around 65% black with Latinos only around 3-4%...the rest white more or less

Nashville metro is around 8% black, 15% latino and the rest White

Nashville proper is 25% black


43 posted on 05/10/2008 9:20:32 PM PDT by wardaddy (FR's Mormon Haters are the new Immigration Thread harpies)
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