Texas Woman Convicted for Operating Swinger's Club Involving Young Children

Fox News ^ | May 8, 2008

[deport]

Man gets life in Child Sex Assault Case


Jamie Pittman sits quietly in court
Thursday in Tyler. Pittman was
found guilty of aggravated sexual
assault of a child.

Here are a list of stories from the Typler paper regarding the investigation, arrest and trails. There are still others to be tried and the perp shown above has six addidtional charges pending under which he can be tried.

UPDATE: 'Swingers Club' Defendant Gets Life in Prison
Date: 05/08/08 | Tyler

Siblings Testify They Were Forced Into Sexual Acts
Date: 05/08/08 | East Texas

Girl Testifies About Classes That Taught Sexual Acts At 'Mineola Swingers Club'
Date: 05/07/08 | Tyler

Tyler Woman Going To Trial In 'Mineola Swinger's Club' Case
Date: 05/04/08 | East Texas

Mineola Swinger's Club Trial Set May 5 For Second Defendant
Date: 04/26/08 | East Texas

Another Arrest Made In Connection With 'Swingers Club'
Date: 04/01/08 | East Texas

And several more articles

[ReignOfError]

Anyone remember an actress named Susan dey..loooks like her twin sister

More like someone who ate Susan Dey and her sister.

[samiam1972]

I’m glad the children have been adopted. That’s the only good thing I found in this article. It’s just horrible!!!

[D-fendr]

Mineola is a very small town; it's hard to imagine something this big not being known about. Certainly, they knew about the "Swingers Club" and something of that nature in a small town... I think you're right that the Police Dept. needs a looking at. Hope the Rangers follow up. From the article:

"The foster mother then took her to the Mineola police to make a report but during an interview at the Children’s Advocacy Center, the girl was afraid to talk to the officers. Later, she said she wanted to tell the officers the truth but the Mineola police refused to allow her back for an interview, she said...

Texas Ranger Sgt. Phillip Kemp began investigating the “Mineola Swingers’ Club” in November 2005 after he was contacted about the sexual abuse allegations by Assistant Smith County [Mineola is in Wood County] District Attorney Tiffany Wickel...

Mineola police investigated the case for one day but Kemp investigated it for two years, he said, adding that no one from the Mineola Police Department ever contacted him about it.

Source

[Charles Henrickson]

They should be in a “Swingers Club” alright—swinging from a tree!

[Swordmaker]

Mineola is a very small town; it's hard to imagine something this big not being known about. Certainly, they knew about the "Swingers Club" and something of that nature in a small town...

I suspect that the Mineola police department is only about 4 or 5 officers. The population of the city is under 6,000. Small towns of that size usually have poorly funded and undertrained police departments.

Ironically, according to Wikipedia, "Before 1873 the place was called Sodom."

However, I am having a bit of trouble actually believing this. It has all the earmarks of the infamous McMartin Preschool case in which the supposed victim children were fed the stories they testified to by the investigators and counsellors. False memories about events that never happened were instilled in the impressionable children by "therapists" who asked them leading questions, provided possible scenarios of depraved activities, and suggested the "correct" answers to children who wanted to please the adult therapists.

How did the "swing" club go about recruiting an audience for such a performance. Even swingers would most likely immediately report such child sexual abuse to the authorities. Swingers are generally interested in sex with other adults, not with children.

There was a mention of one of the children saying they had been video taped in their "performances." Was this video tape found? Was it used at trial? I saw no references to its use as evidence. It's a strange omission from the story if it was used.

[Marysecretary]

She’s sad because she got caught and can’t screw little kiddies anymore.

[Marysecretary]

Chuck Norris would take care of that police force, by golly.

[Marysecretary]

Can you imagine how many MORE children were exposed to this stuff by those monsters. GRRRRR....

[Marysecretary]

Looks like he’s got an IQ of about 8.

[Empireoftheatom48]

Oh Good! Just in time for the New Hit CBS Series Swingtown!!

[deport]

That maybe the IQ of the comined lot of them that was involved. There are some more to be tried and I think more counts against Pittman if they chose to try them.

[D-fendr]

I don’t see the earmarks of McMartin Preschool case that you listed in this case.

[Marysecretary]

I just can’t imagine how people can do this to children. I hope they have real proof of this so they don’t get off later on.

[Swordmaker]

I don’t see the earmarks of McMartin Preschool case that you listed in this case.

The evidence reported in these very poorly written newspaper articles appears to be only the testimony of the children. Other testimony was that of the landlord for the "Mineola Swingers Club" property who said when she found out it was being used for swinging, evicted them. Another was that years after the eviction, investigators found children's clothing and a book in the trash behind the building—a building that HAD been previously used as a children's day care center. Hardly probative. The rest of the evidence was the testimony of the foster mother, therapists, and investigators.

What physical evidence exists? Where are the video tapes? Video tapes are made so the taper can either re-view the event at a later time... or in this case for possible sale to the attending perverts. Were they found? If not, why not? What about medical examinations of the children showing penetration or other indications of damage? Where are the "costumes" that the children testified they wore for some of the "dances?"

In one report of a child's testimony, the child was directly quoted as saying they were taught how to touch their "private parts" and the "private parts" of their siblings. This is not the language that perverts would have taught them. The child also testified that they were taught using dolls before escalating to touching themselves and others. Dolls are much more likely to be used as exemplars in therapy and child abuse investigations. I don't see these adults who have been convicted of these crimes as being sophisticated enough to develop such an educational plan for their victims. To me, it seems more likely that the child may have added the dolls as props to his/her story from the experience of being asked to use them to demonstrate what was done to them or that they did.

This is exactly the type of testimonial evidence and really complete lack of physical evidence that raised serious questions in the McMartin Preschool case.

As I mentioned, how exactly do you build a business plan around the sexual exploitation of children in exchange for money? How do you advertise for your audience without the risk of someone reporting it? How do you find your fellow perverts to participate in this business? How do you bring the subject up with someone you suspect might be interested in seeing such a show? In a town of fewer than 6,000 people? Is this logical?

In the McMartin case, the children testified about perverted events taking place throughout the day—while parents dropped off and picked up kids, walked into classrooms, etc., and saw nothing amiss. The McMartin children also testified about video taping and actually watching replays of sexual activities and animal sacrifices on video... yet no video equipment was found at the site and NO videos were ever found. None of the children showed any physical indications of sexual abuse. It was this lack of logic to the case that caused people to look harder into the evidence and eventually resulted in all of the convicted people being pardoned and freed. All of the McMartin case was predicated solely on the testimony of the children that had actually been created by the investigators.

Were these people drug users? Probably. Were they swingers? Probably. Were they child abusers? Possibly. These newspaper reports do not provide enough information to say for sure. My BS-O-Meter was pegging over on some of the claims simply because most people don't act this way... and to increase the criminal activity to an audience without having ever had anyone call the authorities in the face of a well recognized crime is hard to swallow. It defies logic.

[ovrtaxt]

Let’s see- Texas, child molestation, then you said “boyfriend”? What, he doesn’t have like 65 wives? Imagine that.

[joebuck]

Swinger club? Are you sure it wasn’t just a mormon home church?

[deport]

They’ve had enough proof for two juries to convict. I’d bet they have video or camera footage of some sort, plus the children’s testimony and I’d like to think they’ve got some of patrons and their testimony. Unless there is a technical screw up I doubt the convictions will be reversed.

[D-fendr]

Definitely drug users, this woman was meth and cocaine positive. Also on another of the defendants:

“Rebecca Pittman, 32, was arrested March 26 in Wenatchee, Wash., by U.S. marshals on a charge of aggravated sexual assault of a child for a July 1, 2004, incident in Smith County.

The woman is accused of holding a child down while she was allegedly raped by Dennis Pittman, Rebecca Pittman’s husband at the time.

Prosecutors said she is also suspected of being involved in the swingers’ club. A 15-year-old girl testified during Jamie Pittman’s trial that Dennis Pittman raped her when she was 11.”

We have six of the people involved, it may have been only a handful more. Perhaps even more relatives.

The childrens’ behaviour afterward is consistent with sexual abuse and trama.

I have been unable to find anything on the testimony in the convicted’s defense.

The McMartin case changed a great deal in how children are interviewed in these cases. The jury saw 2.5 hours of taped interview with one victim who was 8 at the time. These are not toddlers, the oldest who testified is 15.

The tape would be conclusive of course, not sure what clothing or dance costumes would prove other than dancing. Good point on the physical exams, though, as you mention the reporting is very weak and we’re left to only imagine if full sex was involved.

Overall, though, I’m disagreeing that it defies logic. If you assume it was a small group, perhaps your doubts will decrease a bit also.

thanks for your reply...

[Marysecretary]

I pray that’s true. These people should be put away forever and ever and ever.