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THE DEATH OF A MUSLIM WOMAN : "The Whore Lived Like a German"
SPIEGEL ^ | March 02, 2005 | Jody K. Biehl

Posted on 05/03/2008 11:45:58 AM PDT by george76

In the past four months, six Muslim women living in Berlin have been brutally murdered by family members. Their crime? Trying to break free and live Western lifestyles.

Within their communities, the killers are revered as heroes for preserving their family dignity. How can such a horrific and shockingly archaic practice be flourishing in the heart of Europe?

The deaths have sparked momentary outrage, but will they change the grim reality for Muslim women?

The shots came from nowhere and within minutes the young Turkish mother standing at the Berlin bus stop was dead. A telephone call from a relative had brought her to this cold, unforgiving place. She thought she would only be gone for a few minutes and wore a light jacket in the freezing February wind. She had left her five-year-old son asleep in his bed. He awoke looking for his mother, who, like many Turkish women in Germany, harbored a secret life of fear, courage and, ultimately, grief.

Now her little boy has his own tragedy to bear: His mother, Hatin Surucu, was not the victim of random violence, but likely died at the hands of her own family in what is known as an "honor killing."

Hatin's crime, it appears, was the desire to lead a normal life in her family's adopted land.

(Excerpt) Read more at spiegel.de ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Germany; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: berlin; crushislam; eurabia; europe; germanmuslims; honorkillings; islam; muslim; muslimwomen; religionofpeace; rop; trop; women
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1 posted on 05/03/2008 11:45:58 AM PDT by george76
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“””The crime might be easier to digest if it had been an archaic anomaly, but five other Muslim women have been murdered in Berlin during the past four months by their husbands or partners for besmirching the family’s Muslim honor. Two of them were stabbed to death in front of their young children, one was shot, one strangled and a fifth drowned. It seems hard to fathom, but in the middle of democratic Western Europe — in Germany, a nation where pacifism is almost a universal mantra — murderous macho patriotism not only exists but also appears to be thriving. It may even be Germany’s liberalism — and its post World War II fear of criticizing minority cultures — that has encouraged ultra-religious families to settle here.””” (more excerpt from Spiegel online)

Yet another example of how the “religion of peace” handles family differences.


2 posted on 05/03/2008 11:52:53 AM PDT by MCCRon58 (Freedom does not mean you are free from the consequences of your own freely made decisions.)
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Until Europeans & British realize that these people are coming NOT to settle in their countries, but to conquer their countries and turn them into the filthy impoverished countries they came from, they are doomed to be shocked and dismayed at these behaviors.

And most likely doomed to find themselves confined to ghettos in what used to be their own countries -

Are the writers of these article really as naive as they sound or just so liberal that they cannot comprehend that muslims are not coming to sing Kumbaya with them, but to saw off their heads?

If the europeans & Brits don’t learn anything from watching the way the muslims treat their own families (well, the women anyway), I really thing there is no hope for them.

And the same thing is very possible in America.


3 posted on 05/03/2008 11:56:18 AM PDT by SusaninOhio
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How can such a horrific and shockingly archaic practice be flourishing in the heart of Europe?

Because Europeans are spineless dhimmmis.

4 posted on 05/03/2008 11:57:11 AM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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...It may even be Germany's liberalism -- and its post World War II fear of criticizing minority cultures -- that has encouraged ultra-religious families to settle here.
The problem is that much of this insular and ultra-religious world is out of public view,...

Errr...Friends at Der Spiegel....Don't throw around the term "ultra-religious".
You are displaying your 'German liberalism' and falling back into the trap of your "post World War II fear of criticizing minority cultures". A.K.A. - cowardice.
It is not the "ultra-religious". There is one specific cult that is causing all of this problem - and y'all know it. And had Germany not shed its belief in the Christian Bible in the 1800s, they'd be able to identify this cult of satan, rather than be stuck in the mode of constant hand-wringing....
Its called Mohammedanism. Islam.

5 posted on 05/03/2008 11:59:33 AM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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Muslims hate the kafir


6 posted on 05/03/2008 12:01:19 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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ping


7 posted on 05/03/2008 12:01:20 PM PDT by EveningStar
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The Religion of Pieces...

A barbaric cult at war with civilization for over 1400 years, and continuing yet today.


8 posted on 05/03/2008 12:09:34 PM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion)
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9 posted on 05/03/2008 12:14:53 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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What will the Germans do when they start honor killing non-muslim women? The article mentions a zero tolerance policy, but that's just a moderate secular Muslims group's response, not he government.

Is there no seriousness to crime and punishment on the continent anywhere? An honor killing ,besides the crime itself, is in itself a HATE crime against the host culture.

Any family involved in a hate crime should be rounded up and deported back to the 7th century.

10 posted on 05/03/2008 12:17:23 PM PDT by OeOeO (Sic Transit Gloria Mundi... Gloria get me a beer,and hurry..)
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This is what civilized countries get for allowing barbarians to invade.


11 posted on 05/03/2008 12:20:21 PM PDT by gitmo (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
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Muslim “intellectuals”.


12 posted on 05/03/2008 12:21:07 PM PDT by LiberConservative ("Typical" White Guy)
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It may even be Germany’s liberalism — and its post World War II fear of criticizing minority cultures — that has encouraged ultra-religious families to settle here.”””

Ja, Ja, the Chermuns are incredibly pacifistic. I spent two weeks traveling around the country twenty years ago, and even then, they all seemed quite wussy, particularly the young people.

However, Turks have lived there for a long time, apparently without incident. They've worked hard and done well and are pleasant and accommodating. Perhaps they've always murdered their women, but I think it more likely that new Islamofascistic values are pervading their population. The Germans better get smart in a hurry.

13 posted on 05/03/2008 12:22:49 PM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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There should be a campaign in Berlin (and elsewhere), in which the locals say some word or phrase, like "LeChaim" openly, or quietly, on the bus, in the grocery store, from the podium, wherever. It will say to the immigrant Muslim population that our culture reveres life, not so-called "honor killing."

Let them hear the message from thousands of lips, yea, millions, inexorably, until they realize they need either to live and let live within our culture or leave it, and stop trying to transplant their 7th century death cult onto our 21st century culture.

It would be my (unfulfilled) wish that the entire extended family in which such a killing has taken place be deported from every western culture country in which they might reside and never allowed to return to western culture.

HF

14 posted on 05/03/2008 12:31:20 PM PDT by holden
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Any family involved in a hate crime should be rounded up and deported back to the 7th century.

There are no such things as "hate" crimes, there are only crimes, otherwise you fall into the thought crime mentality which is what the left wants and will use to convict all of us with a conservative bent. What these muslims are guilty of is murder, pure and simple and they should be put to death for it. Hang a few of them for it and the murders will stop.

15 posted on 05/03/2008 12:36:26 PM PDT by calex59
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First thing take the child away from the family.


16 posted on 05/03/2008 12:39:48 PM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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Even pigs don’t murder their own.


17 posted on 05/03/2008 12:42:15 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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Even pigs don’t murder their own.

They would if they ever listened to their uncle mohammed...
18 posted on 05/03/2008 12:45:06 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg ("Shut the hell up, New York Times, you sanctimonious whining jerks!" - Craig Ferguson)
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Irrespective of whether it's possible to be proved among a group of conspirators sworn to secrecy, the fact would remain that the family that remains silent about such a killing is guilty of a conspiracy to commit murder, or to cover up such a murder after-the-fact. If a family member witnesses against the conspiracy, such a person can stay.

HF

19 posted on 05/03/2008 12:48:26 PM PDT by holden
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The killers should be executed. The children in such families should be removed and put in foster homes.


20 posted on 05/03/2008 12:53:11 PM PDT by jonrick46
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