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The Androgynous Pharaoh? Akhenaten had feminine physique
AP via Yahoo ^ | Fri May 2, 6:23 AM ET | ALEX DOMINGUEZ

Posted on 05/02/2008 10:57:44 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan

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To: Alex Murphy

I can never remember those terms - had to look them up.


21 posted on 05/02/2008 11:33:29 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: monkapotamus; dead; All

OMG Dead and Monk check out ping 17 LOLOL!


22 posted on 05/02/2008 11:35:18 AM PDT by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: ElkGroveDan

Well, that’s what happens when 1000 years of monarch generations marry their sisters...


23 posted on 05/02/2008 11:37:55 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: TexasBeth; SevenofNine
Great stuff!

"Prince can ball!" - Charlie Murphy

24 posted on 05/02/2008 11:55:29 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: ElkGroveDan
The female form was due to a genetic mutation that caused the pharaoh's body to convert more male hormones to female hormones than needed, Dr. Irwin Braverman believes. And Akhenaten's head was misshapen because of a condition in which skull bones fuse at an early age.

All genetic defects related, I'd guess, to the incest and inbreeding practiced by the pharaohs and other royal lines from pharaonic times into the 20th century.
25 posted on 05/02/2008 11:56:20 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: ElkGroveDan
The female form was due to a genetic mutation that caused the pharaoh's body to convert more male hormones to female hormones than needed

This condition is a mystery to me. Testicular feminization syndrome (aka: androgen insensitivity syndrome) works for all aspects of this, except it results in sterility for the adult. Early (perinatal) excess estrogen results in permanent masculinization, not feminization. Alcoholism could lead to adult onset of feminizaion and gynecomastia via excess, adult, estrogen.

In short, those endocrine conditions that are due to estrogen and which feminize are limited to only adult onset, and I'm going to have to do more literature search to find out what this extremely rare condition might be.

26 posted on 05/02/2008 12:12:41 PM PDT by Rudder ("There is only one chief. Obey him." [Rush Limbaugh, April 30, 2008])
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To: dead

That what I thinking of Chappelle reset LOL!


27 posted on 05/02/2008 12:13:48 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: mollynme

LOL I was actually thinking the same thing!
susie


28 posted on 05/02/2008 12:33:57 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: ElkGroveDan

According to Will Durant’s “The History of Civilization,” Volume I; Amenhotep III came to power in the year 1380 B.C. (pg 206) and his son Amenhotep IV was the pharoah that changed his name to Ikhnaton (pg 205) shortly after taking power. Upon changing his name, Ikhnaton went into revolt against the religion of Amon and practices of Amon’s priests (pg 206) and introduced monotheism to Egypt. Iknhaton also married Nofretete and had seven daughters (pg 211). And Tutenkhamon was a son-in-law of Amenhotep IV (pg 213).

On page 206, Durant writes: “In the great temple at Karnak there was now a large harem, supposedly the concubines of Amon, but in reality serving to amuse the clergy. The young emperor, whose private life was a model of fidelity, did not approve of this sacred harlotry, the blood of the ram slaughtered in sacrifice to Amon stank in his nostrils; and the traffic of priests in magic and charms, and their corruption disgusted him to the point of violent protest ... With a poet’s audacity he threw compromise to the winds, and announced bravely that all these gods and ceremonies were a vulgar idolatry, that there was but one god — Aton.”

Durant’s work is worth reading ...


29 posted on 05/02/2008 12:34:58 PM PDT by OldNavyVet
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To: ElkGroveDan

I actually think I saw something on Discovery Channel or NG Channel or Science, or someplace that suggested that Neferititi was actually Akhenaten, and that’s why his features look so feminine. Probably feminist claptrap, but it was interesting (the way reading about alien abductions is interesting).
susie


30 posted on 05/02/2008 12:38:57 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Immanuel Velikovsky’s “Oedipus and Akhnaton” is an interesting read even if heretical.


31 posted on 05/02/2008 12:52:11 PM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: ElkGroveDan

I have feeling Queen Christina of Sweden was something like that she had manly charactisics


32 posted on 05/02/2008 2:07:40 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: ElkGroveDan
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33 posted on 05/02/2008 3:30:40 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Phodopus campbelli: household ruler since July 2007.)
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To: ZULU
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34 posted on 05/02/2008 3:31:43 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Phodopus campbelli: household ruler since July 2007.)
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You mean, that’s not a HAT? Photobucket
35 posted on 05/02/2008 3:33:04 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Phodopus campbelli: household ruler since July 2007.)
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To: ElkGroveDan
He was married to Nefertiti, and Tutankhamun, also known as King Tut, may have been his son or half brother.

Or his BIG Brother.

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36 posted on 05/02/2008 3:34:44 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Phodopus campbelli: household ruler since July 2007.)
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To: Hacklehead
You mean, that’s not a HAT?

LOL!!!

37 posted on 05/02/2008 4:09:17 PM PDT by SolidWood
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To: ElkGroveDan
"But nevertheless, he looked like he had a female physique."

Well, That settles it then!

38 posted on 05/02/2008 6:46:55 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Illegals : Why spend the money to educate them if its against the law to employ them?)
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To: SMARTY
I thought images of people all looked that way because artists’ representations became so stylized that that they followed a strict formula in representing humans.

I believe that this is the main competing theory about the appearance of the Pharaoh's family, competing with the theory in this article.

39 posted on 05/02/2008 6:57:42 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (All of this has happened before, and will happen again!)
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To: Cacique

bump


40 posted on 05/02/2008 9:38:33 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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