Posted on 05/02/2008 9:46:50 AM PDT by Santa Fe_Conservative
I hope some enterprising source - like perhaps The Smoking Gun - makes it available.
She also claimed she was encouraged to take a plea bargain by her family to spare them the embarrassment of a trial. (Another story, like the one about being given bad advice by counsel, and being duped by the DA) Sounds more like they felt an acquittal at a jury trial was unlikely.
That's an excellent observation. When you are offered a plea bargain, you plea to a charge that is less serious than the original crime for which you were arrested.
But she pled guilty to felony drug trafficking. Which means that she was either involved in something far worse than drug trafficking and that drug trafficking was a reduced charge or, more likely, that the prosecution had an airtight case against her and saw no need to offer her anything.
At which point her lawyer and her family would probably advise her to forget about pleading not guilty and going with a jury trial, but to plead guilty and throw herself on the mercy of the court.
I wonder if her parents are still alive? I'm guessing not because she is throwing them under the bus in this article - complaining about her strict upbringing and accusing her parents of submarining her case.
In any case, she preferred her fake life in California to ever seeing her mother, father or siblings ever again.
That's one cold individual.
Sorry, but you are wrong. She did not steal a dead woman’s name and credit. She made up an SS number and it happened to belong to a woman who had died -we are told she had died, anyway, by the MSM. If the woman had not died, there is no gaurantee that she would have ever known someone was using her SS number.
http://redtape.msnbc.com/2006/02/her_atm_card_bu.html
“Can’t be spotted in credit reports
SSN-only ID theft — also called synthetic ID fraud — is often undetectable because of the way credit bureaus store data and release it to consumers. Free credit reports ordered by consumers don’t reveal all credit history entries connected to a Social Security number. Only entries that precisely match a consumer’s name, Social Security number and other personal information appear on such reports. Accounts opened using the consumer’s number but a different name are often omitted, according to the bureaus. That means SSN-only theft, like Harrison’s, can be almost impossible to detect.”
Not true. You are taking the information made available and you are making up lots of stuff from your imagination.
A plea bargain is sought by the state so that they have less expense to try a person -believe me, I know about that. The parents and daughter were told that if she plea bargained they would be spared the expense of the trial themselves, and that she could come out better, probably, by plea bargaining, and get probation only. Her parents and she believed that.
You forget that her grandfather aided her escape.
I think I know where Kwame will wind up living. ;’)
For the third time: it is impossible to make up an SSN number.
SSNs are a sequence of three interrelated codes. The chances of randomly selecting a correct SSN that has been legally issued to someone who has not been reported dead and who matches you timeframe is one in billions.
Again, this is why people pay good money for authentic SSNs - if you could just make one up, no one would ever have to pay for a SSN.
She stole someone's SSN.
If she had to come up with an SSN it is because she needed one for some kind of background check - like the one that accompanies a drivers' license.
If she gave a fake SSN to the DMV, they would find out - if she had made one up she would have basically been saying: "I have one chance in billions of guessing right, but I will just guess and risk arrest anyway."
The only rational explanation of how she came up with such a convenient SSN that perfectly matched her circumstances is that she bought one.
And we know this how? Because she said so?
Um, because he was convicted and served two years in prison. That's how we know.
I am, like yourself, extrapolating from the data I have been given.
Your assumption is that this woman is an angel and that every excuse she offers and every detail of her story are the unvarnished Gospel truth.
I'm a bit more skeptical.
A plea bargain is sought by the state so that they have less expense to try a person -believe me, I know about that.
Because government employees are typically parsimonious with taxpayer money?
Plea bargains are a prosecutor's tool that can be used to avoid a trial whose outcome is questionable. They can also be used to build a case against a more important offender than the one on the docket. In narcotics cases, the latter is usually the case.
The parents and daughter were told that if she plea bargained they would be spared the expense of the trial themselves, and that she could come out better, probably, by plea bargaining, and get probation only. Her parents and she believed that.
Here's the problem. I don't believe there was any plea bargain. In a plea bargain you plead guilty to a lesser offense than the one you were originally arrested for. If you are arrested for possession with intent to distribute, you plead down to just possession. If you are arrested for second-degree murder, you plead down to manslaughter. If you are arrested for attempted murder, you plead down to aggravated assault.
In this woman's case, she pled guilty to felony drug trafficking - in other words, what she was arrested for! If she was pleading to a lesser charge, what charge was greater than felony drug trafficking?
It simply does not add up.
You forget that her grandfather aided her escape.
I didn't forget at all. I pointed out that her different family members appear to have approached her case in different ways.
Then we don't know much at all.
Basically, what you're telling me is that the boyfriend was the real drug dealer and that she just happened to be there that day.
However, the boyfriend fought the charges, went to trial, was convicted anyway -but only got two years.
She, on the other hand, although an innocent bystander pled guilty to a felony she didn't commit and got 10-20.
That makes her story look doubly false.
Again, so she claims.
You don't get probation for pleading guilty to felonies.
You get probation for pleading guilty to lesser charges.
You don't plead guilty to second-degree murder and get probation.
You don't plead guilty to forcible rape and get probation.
You don't plead guilty to narcotics trafficking and get probation.
To believe her story you have to believe the following:
(1) She had no clue she was accompanying her boyfriend on a drug deal - but she has a ready story about a dead boyfriend in Vietnam just in case she did know and needed an excuse.
(2) The police, the prosecutor, her attorney and the judge were all willing to risk their careers and licenses to knowingly railroad a young woman on charges they knew to be false - in order to help out a punk drug dealer.
(3) her own parents colluded with them to engineer this miscarriage of justice.
The more plausible answer: she is spinning a yarn about her past and hoping that the fact that most of the principals are likely dead will help her get over.
I miss Jerry. He made that show stick.
Were you in the camp for keeping the girl dying-of-brain-cancer father in jail?
This situation presents a conundrum. The woman has obvioiusly totally reversed the downhill slide she took in her late teens after the death of her high school sweetheart. She basically developed an entire new and respectable personhod, as it were.
Yet the state has an obligation to enforce the law. They cannot set the precedent of letting someone off completely when they’ve broken the law just because they got away with it for 30+ years. On the other hand, prison is supposed to be for rehabilitation (which it rarely is). She seems to have done a good job of rehabilitation.
If she had told her husband and children, she’d have put them in the position of either having to turn her in or being complicit in her crime. Some secrets are best kept to oneself. It appears in every way she was a good wife and mother for all these years.
When you compare her crime to the Doehrn/Ayers’ from the same era, she should be commended. At least by developing a different life and lifestyle, she’s shown a form of remorse. We’ve seen none from them, and they have been out in the open living the lives of community leaders.
I would be for granting the little girl her dying wish, but I would not allow the argument that he somehow deserved to see her.
She deserved to see him, not the other way around.
There was no legal reason to argue that it was necessary - it was a moral question for prison administrators.
And the question had to be asked: was this the cynical manipulation of a dying girl by a felon?
Oh, I don't really care about her story or her claims. Her sentence was unjust and draconian, she escaped and went on to live a peaceful life.
In a sea of mercy, you seem to be the sole voice screaming for incarceration.
Whatever makes you feel good...
Thank you! I would add "petition the governor for celemncy" to your list, but basically you are right, and also, that's exactly what's going to happen!
I don't know what's going on with some of the guys on FR, inventing all sorts of cockamamie scenarios for this woman that are totally unrealistic and unfair...
And he was good for delivering a few good wisecracks every episode.
Evil everywhere you look!
It's quite convenient to claim that now.
Her sentence was unjust and draconian, she escaped and went on to live a peaceful life.
I see. So any felon can voluntarily set aside the rule of law if their sentence is not to their liking.
There's a salutary prescription for civil society.
In a sea of mercy, you seem to be the sole voice screaming for incarceration.
My, what a dramatic flair you gave that statement.
Are truth and justice established by a show of hands?
Whatever makes you feel good...
The cheap mercy you are applauding is nothing but a hollow exercise in self-congratulation or "feeling good" - mercy granted by people who want to set aside the law in exchange for a handful of warm fuzzies.
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