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Mel Gibson's use of the kilt in the movie "Braveheart" was incorrect. The kilt did not begin to be used until a period much later than Braveheart.
1 posted on 04/19/2008 7:19:18 AM PDT by blam
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To: SunkenCiv
GGG Ping.

"Mr Cheape argues that following the defeat of Bonnie Prince Charlie and his men, educated and wealthy expatriate Scots living in London tried to keep the flame of nationhood burning and in 1778 founded the Highland Society of London with the aim of “preserving the martial spirits, language, dress, music and antiquities of the ancient Caledonians”

Many of the Scots who were fighting with Bonnie Prince Charles were forced to leave Scotland...many settled in North Carolina and began harvesting rosen/pitch from the native pine trees that would be used in ship repair.

The term 'Tar Heels' can be traced to these early Scots.

At one time, North Carolina was world renowned for ship repair quality and ship building expertise. (Wooden ships)

2 posted on 04/19/2008 7:27:02 AM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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The Northumbrian pipes have a similar background. In the early 19th century, skilled makers turned a primitive folk instrument into a sophisticated little pipe.

The reasons for this is pretty obvious. Primitive shepherds and clansman didn’t have the money to commission such fancy instruments, and modern steel tools and machinery are needed to make really good ones.

I don’t think we have a Northumbrian pipe ping list here.


4 posted on 04/19/2008 7:33:16 AM PDT by proxy_user
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“A simpler type of pipe, which has its roots in the Islamic world, the Mediterranean and eastern Europe, was popular throughout the Highlands until the defeat of the Jacobite rebellion at the battle of Culloden in 1745.”
Need I say more?


5 posted on 04/19/2008 7:38:11 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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Scotland ping


6 posted on 04/19/2008 7:41:43 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Those in the national Republican leadership do the work of three men- Moe, Larry, and Curly.)
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It is said that Robert the Bruce marched to the Battle of Bannockbum in 1314 with his troops playing the pipes. The Irish have stone carvings dating back to the 12th century depicting the pipes.


8 posted on 04/19/2008 8:08:13 AM PDT by johnny7
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The classic definition of an optimist;

A bagpipe player with a pager......

10 posted on 04/19/2008 8:14:52 AM PDT by TexasNative2000 (Is this tagline governed by McCain-Feingold?)
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This article is full of wind.

Sounds like a grant student looking for sensationalism, so instead of picking a fight w the muslims he’d going after the Scots.


13 posted on 04/19/2008 8:48:40 AM PDT by Keith Brown (Among the other evils being unarmed brings you, it causes you to be despised Machiavelli.)
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Mel Gibson's use of the kilt in the movie "Braveheart" was incorrect. The kilt did not begin to be used until a period much later than Braveheart.

Historical accuracy isn't exactly Mel Gibson's strong suit. ;)

14 posted on 04/19/2008 8:49:43 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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"That'sall crop."

15 posted on 04/19/2008 8:54:26 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Preach the Gospel always, and when necessary use words". ~ St. Francis of Assisi)
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To: blam
Yes, before the kilt they just wore a big ol' plaid blanket.

When going into battle they'd carefully lay it aside and charge in NEKKID!!!

Any more questions about why Mel Gibson might well have been persuaded to twist historical truth a tad when it came to proper dress in his movie?

21 posted on 04/19/2008 10:29:14 AM PDT by muawiyah
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Also incorrect was the scene where the piper is seen silhouetted on the hill playing the Great Highland pipes - actually the sound was being made by the Uilleann pipes, played by Eric Rigler - a virtuoso of both instruments.


23 posted on 04/19/2008 10:45:06 AM PDT by Churchillspirit
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Do it yourself bagpipe tutorial, for truly cheap Scotsman
24 posted on 04/19/2008 12:26:48 PM PDT by Gritty-Kitty
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Aside from the misleading title, this thread is a welcome opportunity to post a photo of Susana Seivane, gaitera de Galicia. You can glimpse a small measure of the absolute joy that infuses Galician traditional music on this YouTube video, Susana Seivane.

25 posted on 04/19/2008 6:10:09 PM PDT by concentric circles
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The kilt was used in the period. The kilt as a clan designation was not.
29 posted on 04/21/2008 3:36:31 AM PDT by arderkrag (Libertarian Nutcase (Political Compass Coordinates: 9.00, -2.62 - www.politicalcompass.org))
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This is mindless myth-busting. The form of the instrument may have changed, but the droning bellows is truly an ancient instrument, common to many different European and Middle eastern cultures.


30 posted on 04/26/2008 11:05:02 AM PDT by farmer18th (Iraqi Nation Building GWB-Style: "No law that contradicts.. Islam may be established")
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31 posted on 06/11/2008 10:49:09 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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