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Pytheas Visited The Isle Of Man In 300BC - Claim
IOM Today ^ | 4-8-2008 | ADRIAN DARBYSHIRE

Posted on 04/14/2008 11:08:44 AM PDT by blam

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1 posted on 04/14/2008 11:08:44 AM PDT by blam
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To: SunkenCiv
GGG Ping.


2 posted on 04/14/2008 11:09:57 AM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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Was he there for the TT?


3 posted on 04/14/2008 11:13:56 AM PDT by WayneS ("Take your stinking paws off of me you damn dirty ape!")
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4 posted on 04/14/2008 11:14:48 AM PDT by BGHater (It's easy to be brave from a distance.)
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Whats’ with the dotted lines across Spain? There was no water route across spain in 325BC, was there?

The Midi canal wasn’t completed until the 17th century, IIRC.

Or do the dotted lines indicated Pytheas just crossed land the usual way?


5 posted on 04/14/2008 11:16:31 AM PDT by chrisser (Obama: panem et circenses)
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To: blam
The national anthem of the Isle Of Man is Ellan Vannin and the Bee Gees can be seen singing it here. The Bee Gees were born on the Isle Of Man.
6 posted on 04/14/2008 11:21:53 AM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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Looking at it I don’t understand why he would unnecessarily cross the Pyranees? Couldn’t he just have gone across Southern France to the Garonne river and then take a boat to Brittany, then to Britain, Isle of Man and elsewhere?


7 posted on 04/14/2008 11:25:35 AM PDT by brooklyn dave (Proud to be an Infidel)
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To: chrisser
The lines crossing Spain are to far south. The Garonne River is north and in France.


8 posted on 04/14/2008 11:46:00 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: blam

“The explorer Pytheas”

He invented the Pyth helmet.


9 posted on 04/14/2008 11:54:43 AM PDT by tumblindice
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While crossing Spain he stopped to take a Pyth, hence the Iberian river system. (unsubstantiated)


10 posted on 04/14/2008 11:58:51 AM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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He then coined the phrase: “By Athena’s beard, `tis better to be pythed off than pythed on.”


11 posted on 04/14/2008 12:03:54 PM PDT by tumblindice
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To: blam
Notice how he avoided Galicia? Those bad boys had boats, weapons and knew how to use them.

Just checking his route it doesn't look like he actually went around Scota, just between Scota and Alba ~ again, the same interests that made Galicia so dangerous to Eastern invaders also made Scota dangerous.

Recall what I said about the Gaelic speaker in Galicia (NW Spain) and Scota (Ireland) using Greek as their written language ~ they were in the habit of getting a new Greek to do that writing whenever the old one wore out! (Bwahahahahahahahaha!)

12 posted on 04/14/2008 12:27:36 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: blam

Even bigger news: God himself visited Israel in the flesh in the year zero BC. (give or take a year or so)


13 posted on 04/14/2008 12:38:21 PM PDT by fish hawk
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To: tumblindice
When O’Reilly said, “keep it pithy”, I don't think that is what he meant.
14 posted on 04/14/2008 12:41:18 PM PDT by fish hawk
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At various points along his route Pytheas would take sun measurements at the summer and winter solstice to establish his geographical position, in addition to reckoning the distances travelled each day by boat.

Really? Since when did the solstice lasted several weeks or months.

15 posted on 04/14/2008 1:10:18 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (The fence is "absolutely not the answer" - Gov. Rick Perry (R, TX))
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Guessing that the Carthaginians were blocking the Straits of Gibraltar? Perhaps the overland leg was a way to avoid a sort of naval blockade or pirates?


16 posted on 04/14/2008 2:46:41 PM PDT by Tallguy (Tagline is offline till something better comes along...)
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"Guessing that the Carthaginians were blocking the Straits of Gibraltar? Perhaps the overland leg was a way to avoid a sort of naval blockade or pirates?"

Yup. They were guarding their source of tin in the British Isles.

17 posted on 04/14/2008 3:02:23 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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18 posted on 04/14/2008 10:48:49 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_____________________Profile updated Saturday, March 29, 2008)
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To: mtbopfuyn

The soltice (from the Latin for “sun standing still”, in its endless north-south oscillation) is but an instant. In fact, near the solstice, the motion of the sun is slow enough that its motion in a day is probably much less than the resolution of the instruments available.

Presumably the Greeks knew the dates of the soltices well enough, but you would also have to know the direction south (the direction of the meridan) and have a way of measuring the sun’s altitude.

But anyone who knew enough positional astronomy to know the date of the solstices and had sufficient instrumentation to measure the sun’s altitude when it crossed the meridan, could have determined altitude from a few key stars much more easily. (Polaris was not the Pole Star in those days, nor was there a good alternative.)

The sun is possibly the worst choice of a reference for latitude. It must have occured to people who navigated on open waters that the stars provide a good reference frame.


19 posted on 04/15/2008 4:25:17 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The women got the vote and the Nation got Harding.)
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“During his voyage, Pytheas – who coined the name ‘British Isles’ as a geographical description of Britain and Ireland “

Though they don’t tell us about the Pritani tribe and thus the origin of the name?

Lots of half-infos here, I wonder if the writer decided it was to much info for his space limit or he didn’t know himself.


20 posted on 04/15/2008 7:06:33 AM PDT by WoofDog123
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