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For a collective rationalization of the Second Amendment, "smart" guns are useless to other members of the militia. The left never seems to care about the stupidity of their arguments.
1 posted on 04/12/2008 2:23:16 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Sure, I’ll accept these as soon as every officer in the state carries them. What? The police unions won’t accept it? Then why should I?


2 posted on 04/12/2008 2:31:11 AM PDT by kingu (Party for rent - conservative opinions not required.)
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To: Syncro; Citizen James; martin_fierro; CAluvdubya; CyberAnt; goldstategop; BurbankKarl
BANG! The utopian left is out of control.
3 posted on 04/12/2008 2:50:39 AM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: neverdem

Looks like the Marxist thugs are making their move. They can’t establish a communist utopia with a bunch of armed citizens running around. I don’t see CA citizens kicking up much of a fuss. They’ve already accepted the primary fascist tenet of government control of private property for the common good, as determined by the state. Bearing arms is simply another basic property right. If Californians accept government controlling land, homes and businesses, why not accept control of more of your property?

The criminal fascist syndicate occupying Washington will be watching the CA experiment. If it goes well, banning arms across the country will follow.

People better start getting ready, and I don’t mean buying extra boxes of ammo. I’m talking about establishing political control in your local villages, townships and counties. If you don’t have some kind of political base to operate from, you’re in deep trouble.

See Founding Fathers (1750-1775) for details and examples.


5 posted on 04/12/2008 3:27:39 AM PDT by sergeantdave (Governments hate armed citizens more than armed criminals)
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To: neverdem
Back door gun control for law abiding citizens.

It will not effect criminals.

Another BC law.

6 posted on 04/12/2008 3:35:24 AM PDT by TYVets
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To: neverdem
California doesn't need smart guns, it needs smart politicians.......or is that an oxymoron?
7 posted on 04/12/2008 3:55:40 AM PDT by yer gonna put yer eye out (ACLU = heterophobic, Ameriphobic, brainophobic (CAUTION: I made up some of these words))
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To: neverdem; All
Gives new meaning to The Blue Screen of Death, doesn't it?

Just what I want-- a weapon that pops up "Abort, Retry, or Fail?" when I need it most...

8 posted on 04/12/2008 4:01:30 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: neverdem
No proven, viable handgun of this type has ever been developed.

Or ever will.

Stop! Freeze! I will shoot you! click......click.....what the hell.....


11 posted on 04/12/2008 5:05:42 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I wasn't in church during the time when the statements were made.")
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To: neverdem

Biggest liberal bullsh!t idea that I’ve seen.
This is currently an impossible feat to accomplish.
I’ve designed biometric systems for a decade now and the state of the art isn’t there yet. Anything that would work reliably isn’t portable enough, and anything that is portable isn’t accurate enough.


13 posted on 04/12/2008 5:52:11 AM PDT by BuffaloJack
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To: neverdem

This is a product driven law. The develope can sell his product so the next step is to FORCE the sale of his product.

It is like the pay off of MADD to advocate the ignition interlock devices as madatory in all cars.


14 posted on 04/12/2008 7:05:04 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: neverdem

Excellent point.
They have actually confirmed that the 2d is an individual right not a collective right.


15 posted on 04/12/2008 7:16:20 AM PDT by smoketree (the insanity, the lunacy these days)
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To: neverdem
“The left never seems to care about the stupidity of their arguments.”

Those of us on the right continue to “mis-underestimate” those on the left. Actually, their objectives are not stupid. They for the most part are very well thought out. As an example, the Lefties are very well aware that the technology for their proposed smart guns has not been developed. Nevertheless, the Left’s strategy is to force gun companies to spend valuable money and time attempting to comply. As the Left is well aware, and contrary to public opinion, gun companies are not large and their resources and revenues are limited. So, these endless requirements being legislated may force some gun companies into bankruptcy. To state it more succinctly, the left is attempting “a death by a thousand cuts”...

16 posted on 04/12/2008 7:22:23 AM PDT by snoringbear (')
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To: neverdem
Assemblyman Mark DeSaulnier (D-11), AB2235

Somebody needs to start hanging these guys on the courthouse square. Smart guns are not smart at all. Anything electronic is subject to failure. I can promise you that the police are not going to want these guns, Nor the military. The gun must fire every time the trigger is pulled or an inncocent life will be lost.

18 posted on 04/12/2008 7:41:35 AM PDT by ColdSteelTalon
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To: neverdem

Ever since 1982 when the VOTERS of California turned down a handgun gun ban(that was guaranteed to pass)the legislature has tried to find any way they could to bypass the voters.

This is just another one of them. They know they can’t trust the VOTERS with gun issues, except in San Fran.


19 posted on 04/12/2008 7:52:52 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (When someone burns a cross on your lawn the best firehose is an AK-47.)
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To: neverdem
...handguns with a permanent, programmable biometric feature that renders the firearm useless unless activated by the authorized user. No proven, viable handgun of this type has ever been developed.
Translation: No one can buy a hand gun ever again.

That should be the name of the bill.

Yea, let's have a bill that says the only firearm you can buy doesn't exist.

21 posted on 04/12/2008 10:34:33 AM PDT by Syncro
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To: neverdem

Huummmm,,

I already own a ‘smart gun’.

Works every time I go to shoot it.

Nice, easy to operate and maintain. Ergometric controls. Avalible in different calibers.

What, you say, what kind is it?

The smartest one out there

M1911, 45 ACP - made in 1916. John Moses got it right the first time... And that my FRiends, is one smart gun (weapon actually, but you know what I mean)


22 posted on 04/12/2008 10:55:01 AM PDT by ASOC (Training Storungen werden auf Papier notiert. Taktische Storungen werden im Stein geatzt. Gen Rommel)
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the post and your efforts as always.


23 posted on 04/12/2008 10:58:54 AM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: neverdem
If these technologies actually worked, they would be of greater value to cops than to the average citizen. Cops, after all, are often required to put themselves in situations where they're at risk of having their guns stolen--situations which ordinary citizens would generally avoid.

Therefore, any exemption for cops must be taken as an acknowledgment that the technologies don't actually work; to mandate such technologies when they don't work is to acknowledge that failure is not considered a 'bad thing'.

24 posted on 04/12/2008 10:59:19 AM PDT by supercat
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