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L.A. Shares Blame in Teen's Death (Illegal Gang Member Kills)
Los Angeles Daily News ^ | 4/6/2008 | Doug McIntyre, Columnist

Posted on 04/06/2008 1:07:06 PM PDT by Mark

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To: B.Bolt
I just know that you can never legislate ethics and or morality

That has nothing to do with my post to you.

To interject that is specious to say the least.

41 posted on 04/06/2008 3:08:00 PM PDT by Syncro
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To: MizSterious
The focus should be on enforcing them

Of course.

Getting our corrupt government to so so is the problem, I agree.

42 posted on 04/06/2008 3:09:42 PM PDT by Syncro
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

But my point is—if they won’t enforce the existing laws, what makes anyone think they’ll enforce this new one?


43 posted on 04/06/2008 3:16:03 PM PDT by MizSterious (The Republican Party is infected with the RINO-virus)
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To: Mark
Shaw's killer? Police believe they have him - 19-year-old Pedro Espinosa, an illegal alien gangbanger, a killer for the 18th Street Gang.

If there was any justice, jorge bush should be made to carry the picture of this murdered young man for the rest of his incompetent life.

44 posted on 04/06/2008 3:58:53 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Mark

More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war, study says

When you start digging into the numbers the only ones that can be sourced with the feds are the number of American murdered in 2005: 16692
I have seen federal numbers for illegals held in jail ranging from 19.3% to 27% of the federal prison population.

Here's a sampling of USA cities wanted for murder. What you'll see is that in big USA cities like LA or NYC most of the murderers are Hispanic. Unknown are the % of illegals. In smaller cities the FBI will post the nationalities of the murderers. About 25% of the most wanted are illegals wanted for murder. This number agrees with the percentage of illegals incarcerated in federal prisons. +-25%

Pictures of top 10 most wanted in LA. Up until recent stories about crime in LA posted by the LA Times--the pictures included the nationality of the murderers. They were all foreign nationals and mostly Mexican.

Wanted for Murder in New York City.

Chicago wanted for Murder


Philadelphia wanted for murder

San Francisco wanted for Murder


New Orleans wanted for Murder

Pictures of suspects wanted for murder in Washington DC

FBI USA 10 most wanted. (two of 10 are Mexican nationals)

There are currently no exact numbers on the number of Americans killed by illegals. Part of the reason is that the government deliberately obscures the number. I talked on the phone with the head of statistics for the US Bureau of Prisons. He said his office wasn't allowed to publish the number of illegal alien murderers. Rather they were forced to put legal and non legal residents in the same category. I talked to ICE. They put out detailed numbers on illegal child molestors. However, they put out nothing on illegal murderers.

Part of the reason for the silence on the matter is that there is evidence to suggest that most Americans being killed by illegals are black--as is the suggestion in this LA Times Article. Also this article from the LA Times. And here. This makes intuitive sense. We see stories regularly of drug gang killings in Mexico but we don't see those same stories in the USA. The reason we don't see those stories is not because its not happening. Rather we don't see the stories about illegals killing blacks because that kind of story is terribly politically incorrect. The populations being displaced in downtown sanctuary cities especially are American blacks. That means that their criminal elements would be pushed aside by Mexican gangs as well. That's also the story that the wanted for murder posters in all the major cities seems to suggest.

Nevertheless, the pattern of non reporting is starting to break. Discovery Channel has a series called Gangland that mentions ethnic cleasing of blacks by Mexican gangs

Reported Foreign Nationals on Death Row in the U.S.

To look at other USA cities go here http://stlouis.fbi.gov/ and replace stlouis with the city you want.

All that said the true number of criminal aliens is far higher than is revealed by criminal aliens in prisons. Most are simply waived through the courts.DHS Secretary Chertoff, has been quoted as warning that two million people in this country illegally have committed serious crimes. See also here and here

However the number of illegals on death row is far lower.


45 posted on 04/06/2008 4:44:02 PM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: Mark
Among the guilty

46 posted on 04/06/2008 5:07:05 PM PDT by ruination
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To: AmericanInTokyo

This isn’t related to the mortgage mess, but it’s another example of what open borders are doing to this country.


47 posted on 04/06/2008 5:42:49 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Those in the national Republican leadership do the work of three men- Moe, Larry, and Curly.)
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To: HiJinx

ping


48 posted on 04/06/2008 7:12:39 PM PDT by bkwells (Liberals=Hypocrites)
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To: ckilmer

Wow... nice post!


49 posted on 04/06/2008 7:15:40 PM PDT by bkwells (Liberals=Hypocrites)
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To: ckilmer

Excellent post.


50 posted on 04/06/2008 7:41:16 PM PDT by proud2beconservativeinNJ ("In God We Trust")
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To: Mark

The mayor, city council and sheriff have culpability just as if they had put the gun in his hand.


51 posted on 04/06/2008 7:42:47 PM PDT by purpleraine
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To: Mark

“Doug McIntyre hosts the “McIntyre in the Morning” program on Talk Radio 790 KABC, weekdays from 5 to 9 a.m.”

Doug McIntyre was someone who kept me sane during the Presidential Imbroglio of 2008.
With his expertise in historical research he put the nutty madness in
Florida into proper perspective, even though he was doing the
overnight-show slot on KABC (?midnight-5AM?).

Doug McIntyre’s KABC website
http://www.kabc.com/mcintyre/


52 posted on 04/06/2008 7:48:20 PM PDT by VOA
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To: bkwells; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...

Ping!


53 posted on 04/06/2008 9:08:32 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ Support our Troops ~ www.americasupportsyou.mil ~)
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To: ruination

Every president since Eisenhower, Every SEnator, Congressman, Governor State Senator, Every mayor of every town. For not demanding we close our borders and protect their own citizens.

Every elected official since Eisenhower with his “Operation Wetback” to sweep these illegal criminal aliens out of our country.


54 posted on 04/06/2008 9:17:41 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: Ethrane

It is not hard to verify citizenship status, especially if someone is arrested. Many cities and counties choose not to do so- they feel it’s “just not right” or “not our job” in actuality they are supporters of illegals. It often leads to tragedy for our citizens. It is sad, and it is insanity, and it needs to end.


55 posted on 04/06/2008 9:28:58 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Please Support and pray for our Troops, as they serve us every day.)
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To: Mark

On April 9, 2008 ,Pedro Espinoza is scheduled to be arraigned.

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We will meet for a silent, respectful sidewalk rally at 7:00 a.m. (This Downtown Los Angeles, so be prepared to pay for parking. ) Then attend the arraignment. (as space allows)

Date: Wednesday, April 9, 2008
Location: 210 West Temple Street. Los Angeles, California 90012
Time: 7:00 a.m rally - 8:30 Court Time

Proposed Jamiel’s Law:

http://web.mac.com/waltermoore/WalterMooreForMayor/Jamiels_Law.html

More information on the court:
http://www.lasuperiorcourt.org/Locations/ccb.aspx
On the case:
http://www.lasd.org/inmate-information.html

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Appropriate signs:
“Support Jamiel’s Law”
“Rescind Special Order 40”
“No Federal Funds for Sanctuary Cities”
“Stop Illegal Immigration”


56 posted on 04/06/2008 10:26:32 PM PDT by Ladycalif (Free The Texas 3 - Ramos, Compean and Hernandez)
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To: Mark

bttt


57 posted on 04/07/2008 1:03:36 AM PDT by AnimalLover ( ((Are there special rules and regulations for the big guys?)))
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To: Mark

axe murderer once bought bouquet of roses from illegal immigrant street vendor. Immigration policies to blame.


58 posted on 04/07/2008 5:43:33 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (can u feel the unity?)
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To: Mark

What does mayor “Via Reconquista” say about this. Some of his speeches are in spanish. He welcomes illegals to LA.

The number one issue facing America is ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. Don’t waste your vote, vote Constitution/American Independent Party. A party that will STOP illegal immigration.


59 posted on 04/07/2008 7:39:34 AM PDT by doc
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To: tflabo

“We have very few leaders but lots of self-pandering stooges called politicians who like pigs feed at the troughs for their own gain. Public servants in name only.”

If you keep voting for the same two parties it will only get worse. GW’s declaration while running for president the first time was, “We have to secure the borders”. McAmnesty is spewing the same BS. Don’t waste your vote! Vote third party.


60 posted on 04/07/2008 8:57:56 AM PDT by doc
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