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Some superdelegates more super than rest
AP on Yahoo ^ | 4/4/08 | Stephen Ohlemacher - ap

Posted on 04/04/2008 6:58:26 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON - Some of those presidential superdelegates Democrats Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton are pursuing are more super than others. One delegate, one vote doesn't apply to them. These prominent Democrats can name additional superdelegates, giving them control over multiple convention votes, and that could be the difference in a race that may not be decided until the August convention.

The clout of the nearly 800 superdelegates is unprecedented in this year's race because neither Obama nor Clinton can clinch the nomination with only the delegates won in state primaries and caucuses. Largely overlooked in the arcane process, though, is the power of a select few to complete the superdelegate ranks by naming 76 newbies, and Clinton and Obama are fighting hard over every one of those from state conventions to back rooms.

Separated by fewer than 140 delegates, both candidates are lobbying the hundreds of known superdelegates, employing family, friends and influential surrogates to woo the governors, lawmakers and other party leaders. Some are more important than others.

Consider Art Torres, chairman of the California Democratic Party. He remains uncommitted, yet he could be the most powerful superdelegate of all. Torres gets to name five additional superdelegates, giving him control over six votes at the national convention this summer.

"I am the super of supers!" Torres proclaims with a laugh.

He and other state party chairmen will appoint most of the additional 76, known in Democratic ranks as "unpledged add-ons."

"They basically are gifts to the state party chairs," Harold Ickes, a chief strategist for Clinton, said of the additional superdelegates.

The additional delegates represent a lot of votes in a race this tight, and neither Obama nor Clinton has really capitalized so far. Only 20 of the party's 56 state and territory chairmen have endorsed a candidate, according to surveys of superdelegates by The Associated Press. Obama has 12 endorsements, Clinton eight.

The candidates also have split endorsements from Democratic governors, who often control state party matters. Both have 10 gubernatorial endorsements.

Superdelegates can vote for whomever they choose at the party's convention this August in Denver, regardless of the results in primaries and caucuses. In all, there will be nearly 800 superdelegates, including the 76 extras.

Clinton has been leading in superdelegate endorsements since before the first primary, but Obama has gained ground in the past month and a half. The latest AP tally: Clinton, 251; Obama, 221. Obama has won more pledged delegates in primaries and caucuses, giving him the overall delegate lead, 1,635 to 1,501. Needed to win the nomination: 2,024.

The 76 "add-ons" are doled out to each state based on population and Democratic voting strength. Every state but Florida and Michigan, which were penalized for holding early primaries, gets at least one. California's five are the most.

The extra delegates will be selected at state party conventions and committee meetings throughout the spring. In about half the states, including California, Georgia and Ohio, they must be chosen from lists compiled by the state party chairmen. If the chairmen list only one person for each slot, they effectively name the extra delegates.

In other states the additional delegates can be nominated from the floor of the convention or by simply applying, turning mundane state party gatherings into spirited debates about the presidential candidates.

Alabama's extra delegate was decided by six votes on March 1, when Obama backer and labor leader Stewart Burkhalter was selected at a meeting of the state party's executive committee. Burkhalter said he worked with the Obama campaign to get the nod.

"If we'd already had a nominee I wouldn't have been an unpledged add-on, I guess," Burkhalter said.

In past years, states used their extra delegates to reward elected officials, donors or labor leaders, or to achieve racial balance in their delegations. This year, the battle for the extra delegates is one of many fronts in a historic fight for the Democratic nomination.

Aides to both campaigns say they are wading into local politics to try to make sure the new delegates are amenable to their candidate.

Some state party chairmen will consult governors or senators when making their choice; others will simply pick like-minded delegates.

That's what Wyoming Democratic Chairman John Millin plans to do when he selects the state's extra delegate in May. Millin, who has endorsed Obama, said he plans to choose another Obama supporter for the spot, though he hopes their votes are not decisive.

"The two votes that I get are frankly two more votes than I really want at the national convention," Millin said. "The party as a whole needs to wrap this up soon after the primaries. I would like to see the decision made long before we get to Denver."

In California, Torres has come up with a diplomatic way to select his five delegates. He said he plans to award them in proportion to the vote in California's Democratic primary. Clinton received about 52 percent of the vote, so she gets three; Obama got 43 percent of the vote, so he gets two.

Torres said he will also use the slots to help meet the state's affirmative action goals.

"I want to take a delegation to the convention that reflects the diversity of California," Torres said.

Both campaigns lobbied Oklahoma Democratic Chairman Ivan Holmes before he picked the state's extra delegate in February. It didn't work.

Holmes, who hasn't endorsed Clinton or Obama, said he selected another undecided superdelegate, the state party's chief fundraiser, Reggie Whitten.

"I had all kinds of people wanting to do this, and Reggie never asked me," Holmes said.

Holmes said he originally backed former Sen. John Edwards, believing he would do well in Oklahoma, perhaps providing coattails for local candidates. He said he has yet to see that trait in Obama or Clinton.

"Obama brings young people into the party that we haven't had before, and Hillary brings in a lot of independent women," Holmes said. "Unfortunately, the polls show that neither of them are going to win Oklahoma."


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1 posted on 04/04/2008 7:00:01 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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Sen. Kent Conrad, D-N.D., left, and Sen. Byron Dorgan, D-N.D., right, present presidential hopeful Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., with a University of North Dakota Fighting Sioux hockey stick during the 2008 Democratic Convention in Grand Forks, N.D. on Friday April 4, 2008. (AP Photo/The Canadian Press, Mike Aporius, Winnipeg Free Press )


2 posted on 04/04/2008 7:02:25 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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Huma sighting ..

Democratic presidential hopeful, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y.,
waves at hotel employees as she arrives at the Madison hotel in Memphis, Tenn.,
Friday, April 4, 2008, for a meeting.
(AP Photo/Mary Altaffer)

3 posted on 04/04/2008 7:04:08 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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Democratic presidential hopeful, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., third from left, stands at the spot where Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinated at the Lorraine Motel, which is now the site of the National Civil Rights Museum, in Memphis, Tenn., Friday, April 4, 2008. Second from left is American civil rights leader Benjamin Hooks, and far right is Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, D-Texas. (AP Photo/Charles Dharapak)


4 posted on 04/04/2008 7:05:37 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Barack Obama D-Ill., speaks about the Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr., on the 40th anniversary of his assassination at a town hall meeting at Wayne High School in Fort Wayne, Ind., Friday, April 4, 2008. Obama alluded to another leader gunned down in 1968, Democratic presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy. During the evening of the day King was shot, it was Kennedy who in a memorable, off-the-cuff speech informed a stunned crowd in Indiana of King's assassination. (AP Photo/Alex Brandon)


5 posted on 04/04/2008 7:07:25 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: NormsRevenge

What the heck is wrong with North Dakota? Get rid of those rat senators.


6 posted on 04/04/2008 7:08:59 PM PDT by lawnguy (The function of wisdom is to discriminate between good and evil-Cicero)
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To: NormsRevenge

Hyper Delegates?


7 posted on 04/04/2008 7:11:16 PM PDT by Eddie01 (Freepers don't let Freepers get spun)
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To: NormsRevenge
Hmm...Its George Orwells', Animal Farm, all over again.
....All animals are equal, but some (pigs :) animals are more than equal.
8 posted on 04/04/2008 7:18:47 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (just b/c your paranoid, doesn't mean "they" aren't out to get you...our hopes were dashed by CINOs :)
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To: NormsRevenge

The Democrat party is really democratic...


9 posted on 04/04/2008 7:23:12 PM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, but DemocRATs believe every day is April 15th. - Reagan)
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To: devolve; skinkinthegrass; ntnychik; PhilDragoo; dixiechick2000; MeekOneGOP; All

10 posted on 04/04/2008 7:23:33 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: NormsRevenge

Looks like a shell game. Crooked but not illegal,according to the Democrats.


11 posted on 04/04/2008 7:30:29 PM PDT by mojo114
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To: potlatch

Wondering if anyone else caught the reference.... Orwell was rather Prophetic....


12 posted on 04/04/2008 7:32:36 PM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: Walkingfeather; devolve

[Wondering if anyone else caught the reference.... ]

Yes, I made that quite awhile back and thought it applied to the democrats quite well;

“Animal Farm is the most famous satirical allegory of Soviet totalitarianism. Published in 1945, the book reflects events leading up to and during the Stalin era.


13 posted on 04/04/2008 7:38:14 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: Walkingfeather; NormsRevenge; devolve; dixiechick2000; MeekOneGOP; All
...actually, the founding fathers, foretold of this very thing happening.
...the (nilist) politicians; paying off voters, with public monies.
14 posted on 04/04/2008 7:44:37 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (just b/c your paranoid, doesn't mean "they" aren't out to get you...our hopes were dashed by CINOs :)
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To: potlatch; PhilDragoo; ntnychik; MeekOneGOP; Philo1962

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good post potlatch!

All that BS for Barack “Barry” Hussein Obama (alias Barry Soetero) who is only 6.5% black Kenyan African blood

43.5% Arab blood (300 years in Kenya)

50% white American blood

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PS - Anyone interested in seeing Obama’s original required Selective Service registration info, data, date, revisions (like John Kerry?) to his alleged files?


15 posted on 04/04/2008 7:54:03 PM PDT by devolve (------- --------The Wright Stuff? -----Obama is TYPICAL!)
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To: potlatch
“Animal Farm is the most famous satirical allegory of Soviet totalitarianism. Published in 1945, the book reflects events leading up to and during the Stalin era

he actually became disillusioned about Marxism/Communism, during the Spanish Civil War....where he fought w/ the Communist (International Brigade) against the German National Socialist Workers Party.
I guess he saw no real difference between the two.

16 posted on 04/04/2008 7:56:35 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (just b/c your paranoid, doesn't mean "they" aren't out to get you...our hopes were dashed by CINOs :)
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To: devolve
Obama doesn't mention he's 50% white. Have you seen any of his Selective Service registration info, or is that another bit of missing information?

This Super Delegate business is a rigged up deal, one can select 5 more.. Wheeling and dealing and stealing, all a part of the game.

17 posted on 04/04/2008 8:02:23 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: skinkinthegrass; devolve

[he actually became disillusioned about Marxism/Communism, during the Spanish Civil War....]

I probably read that when I was doing research for the animation. Mostly used Wickapedia [sp?] for my info.


18 posted on 04/04/2008 8:04:50 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: potlatch

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...but it was never “pure Communism” anywhere...

They just did not “do it right yet”!


19 posted on 04/04/2008 8:16:14 PM PDT by devolve (------- --------The Wright Stuff? -----Obama is TYPICAL!)
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To: devolve

[They just did not “do it right yet”!]

And “yet’s” yet to come huh?
Did you hear Hillary’s comment about wearing a burka?

Wonder how communism and islam would intermingle?


20 posted on 04/04/2008 8:25:21 PM PDT by potlatch
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