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Another Olympic problem squat toilets
Yahoo/AP ^ | 3/19/08 | STEPHEN WADE

Posted on 03/19/2008 9:09:14 AM PDT by cowtowney

BEIJING - Among all the protests, pollution concerns and talk of boycotts surrounding the Beijing Olympics, a more basic problem has arisen for organizers: the toilets.

At the more than 30 test events held by organizers, the presence of squat toilets at many of the new and renovated venues has drawn frequent complaints.

"We have asked the venues to improve on this, to increase the number to sit-down toilets," Yao Hui, deputy director of venue management for the Beijing organizers, said Wednesday. "Many people have raised the question of toilets."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: 2008olympics; boycottolympics; china; freetibet; olympics; tibet; toilets
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No sitting down on the job at the China Olympics. What dufus thought this was a good idea? I've used these and they take some getting used to.
1 posted on 03/19/2008 9:09:15 AM PDT by cowtowney
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To: cowtowney

Should this be under “Breaking News”?


2 posted on 03/19/2008 9:10:36 AM PDT by cowtowney
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To: cowtowney

“Breaking Wind News”


3 posted on 03/19/2008 9:11:04 AM PDT by RexBeach ("Americans never quit." Douglas MacArthur)
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To: cowtowney

How do you keep your clothing clean?


4 posted on 03/19/2008 9:11:44 AM PDT by donna (Sticks and Stones May Break My Bones, But Words Will Never Hurt Me)
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To: cowtowney

Not to mention making them handicapped-accessible.


5 posted on 03/19/2008 9:12:32 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: donna

Very carefully.

Actually, squatty potties are standard in third world countries. Just be careful not to drop anything. Getting it out is messy!


6 posted on 03/19/2008 9:13:05 AM PDT by Tex Pete
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To: cowtowney

I have a good friend from Beijing. The first thing she noticed and really liked about the US was the toilet availability. Apparently, China does not provide toilets at historic sites. She was impressed that we could keep our historic sites historic, yet still provide modern toilets. I see that their toilet problem does not end at their historic sites.


7 posted on 03/19/2008 9:13:06 AM PDT by twigs
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To: cowtowney

What happens if you lose your balance?


8 posted on 03/19/2008 9:13:23 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (feh)
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To: donna

Stay home. Watch on TV.


9 posted on 03/19/2008 9:13:43 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: cowtowney

How big is the hole? What if you miss? You just kick it in? What if that Peking Duck comes back to haunt you and you are not thinking “solid thoughts”?


10 posted on 03/19/2008 9:13:43 AM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (Pork, just bring the hot sauce!)
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To: cowtowney

Will they have TP? That, to me, is a bigger issue. Also, even if they have it, will it feel like Charmin or the NYT (which is, of course, far more suitable for the job, even if it doesn’t feel right)?


11 posted on 03/19/2008 9:14:01 AM PDT by Ancesthntr (An ex-citizen of the Frederation trying to stop Monica's Ex-Boyfriend's Wife from becoming President)
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To: cowtowney

The more serious problem is they are providing bamboo shoots instead of toilet paper.


12 posted on 03/19/2008 9:14:22 AM PDT by Rennes Templar ( Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts.)
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To: Izzy Dunne

Stay home, and plan to do something else.


13 posted on 03/19/2008 9:14:39 AM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (Pork, just bring the hot sauce!)
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To: cowtowney

A friend of mine was in Moscow in maybe ‘93, ‘94, or ‘95, and said that all of the toilets at McDonalds (regular toilets) had footprints all over the seats, because country folk had been through, and didn’t understand what they were supposed to do. You’d have the same problem in China. It would be a mess.


14 posted on 03/19/2008 9:15:42 AM PDT by NYFriend
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To: donna

Carefully. Very carefully.

Not so bad once you get used to it. For some, there might be a real physical limitation. But I don’t suspect that will be the case with Olympians.


15 posted on 03/19/2008 9:16:55 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: cowtowney
"I believe the Olympic games will be a great opportunity for us to speed up this transition," Yao said. "I believe the situation will get better and better."

What? Admitting that westernizing China will improve China? Wonder how long it will take before his family receives the bill for the bullet his jailers put in the back of his head.

16 posted on 03/19/2008 9:16:55 AM PDT by FrdmLvr
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To: cowtowney

LOL, well having spent 6 weeks in China, I will say that squat toilets are a problem. Can’t speak for men, but for women, it’s a major inconvenience...and even though we were in a large city, the only regular toilet I ever saw was the one in our hotel room. Even in the hotel lobby restroom (and this was a 5 star hotel with outrageous rates) the toilets were squat toilets. Many places you had to purchase sheets of tp before you went into the stalls, or carry your own. And in the parks, well there’s no such thing as toilets, just “trenches” that you have to figure out how to straddle. Definitely a bit of culture shock for me.


17 posted on 03/19/2008 9:17:46 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: Old Professer

“Not to mention making them handicapped-accessible.”

The Chinese government doesn’t have handicapped citizens - -
if you know what I mean.


18 posted on 03/19/2008 9:18:03 AM PDT by Eurale
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To: Ancesthntr

My experience in China is to bring your own. Best to take baby wipes.


19 posted on 03/19/2008 9:18:40 AM PDT by keepitreal
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To: donna

Don’t call ‘um “Bomb Sight $****ers” for nothing.

:-)

Used them many a time in other lands.


20 posted on 03/19/2008 9:18:42 AM PDT by PeteB570 (NRA - Life member and Black Rifle owner)
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To: WakeUpAndVote

Half the time you’re in a place using this type of ‘facility’, you’re not as solidly grounded as you might like.

It can be a colorful experience. You’ll always remember it.


21 posted on 03/19/2008 9:19:49 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: cowtowney
Should this be under “Breaking News”?

Depends upon how badly ya gotta go.

22 posted on 03/19/2008 9:20:08 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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To: NYFriend

“that all of the toilets at McDonalds (regular toilets) had footprints all over the seats”

We have that same problem today in the USA where I work.


23 posted on 03/19/2008 9:20:13 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: cowtowney
I've experienced “squat toilets” in Tunisia. For toilet paper, you had a tin can and a stick. The cock roaches were coming out of that hole in the concrete floor and running up the walls so thick that you thought they were the wall decor.

I wonder what kind of insects inhabit Beijing? Of course, to them a few cockroaches will be an extra protein snack.

24 posted on 03/19/2008 9:20:33 AM PDT by jonrick46
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To: reagan_fanatic

Well that never happens in China, as they all know Kung Fu.


25 posted on 03/19/2008 9:21:12 AM PDT by farlander (Try not to wear milk bone underwear - it's a dog eat dog financial world)
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To: donna
How do you keep your clothing clean?

Having lived in Japan where there are a lot of these toilets, I can tell you from experience...

The safest route is to close the stall door and strip from the waste down. Otherwise, the slightest loss of balance can lead to a bad situation.

26 posted on 03/19/2008 9:21:20 AM PDT by TontoKowalski
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To: Old Professer

I don’t think China has ADA laws;-)


27 posted on 03/19/2008 9:23:10 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: Old Professer
Not to mention making them handicapped-accessible.

The bad news is my Japanese father-in-law fell and broke his hip last month (he had surgery and is recovering well). The good news is this finally got him to replace the squat toilet in his house with a western style toilet.

28 posted on 03/19/2008 9:25:29 AM PDT by GATOR NAVY (Your parents will all receive phone calls instructing them to love you less now.)
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To: dawn53

I vacationed in Japan last fall. First thing I figured out was the sign on the stalls for “western” versus pit style toilet. Most of the places I visited has half the stalls one way and half the other. Our hotel room had a real toilet of course.

I did notice how many women wore skirts over there and I bet that helps. Of course Japanese restrooms are insanely clean and well stocked with toilet paper so I didn’t encounter any other horrors that some mention.


29 posted on 03/19/2008 9:26:24 AM PDT by JenB
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To: TontoKowalski

This is why I don’t go camping, LOL.


30 posted on 03/19/2008 9:26:30 AM PDT by donna (Sticks and Stones May Break My Bones, But Words Will Never Hurt Me)
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To: NYFriend
A friend of mine was in Moscow in maybe ‘93, ‘94, or ‘95, and said that all of the toilets at McDonalds (regular toilets) had footprints all over the seats, because country folk had been through, and didn’t understand what they were supposed to do. You’d have the same problem in China. It would be a mess.

I know a fellow who got an engineering job with Freeport-McMoRan, which included an overseas rotation to one of the company's copper mines in Indonesia. He reported that the locals thought that all Americans must have very good balance in order to squat so far above the ground.

31 posted on 03/19/2008 9:32:23 AM PDT by Charles Martel (The Tree of Liberty thirsts.)
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To: cowtowney

When I was in Vietnam, it was usual to see the locals squat and take a dump along the roadside. They could squat and keep their feet flat on the ground thereby keeping their pants forward of the droppings. Oh, forget toilet paper, you had better make a clean purge. The locals were thin as rails and had no belly to get in their way. They also had spent many years conditioning their ankles to flex comfortably. Most westerners won’t be able to match the locals in a squat contest. Expect some poop in the pants. Better wonder about wiping. Better off just not going the the Olympics.


32 posted on 03/19/2008 9:32:38 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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To: WakeUpAndVote
How big is the hole? What if you miss? You just kick it in? What if that Peking Duck comes back to haunt you and you are not thinking “solid thoughts”?

The dropzone is about 14 " long 10" wide. Get your clothes up and out of the way, especially if you're a man, that takes some finagling. Non-solid thoughts are actually easier unless accompanied by hugh gas. Then it is a helluva thing.

33 posted on 03/19/2008 9:32:51 AM PDT by xone
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To: cowtowney
FWIW : Supposedly, squat toilets are why hemorrhoids are (allegedly) unknown in the Third World. Me, I am inclined to wonder if a third worlder would seek medical attention for hemorrhoids, which usually clear up on their own in 2-3 weeks, but anyway....the doctor who came out with the study touting squat toilets as the cure-all for hemorrhoids told his patients (who had that problem) to squat/perch on the edge of the toilet when defecating. He claimed that cured their problems completely, with no recurrences.He thought the use of gravity and the greater use of muscles involved in the squat/perch better for the elimination tract than just sitting down and straining. Just FWIW.

Also FWIW : Supposedly, the most commonly shoplifted item in the USA is Preparation H . No one wants to have the cashier see them purchase *that* item.

34 posted on 03/19/2008 9:33:05 AM PDT by Verloona Ti
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To: donna

Actually it is easier out in the woods sometimes, and cleaner than a few places I have used. Our bath facilities, even the worst, are still much better than a vast majority of the people in the world use.


35 posted on 03/19/2008 9:36:05 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: WakeUpAndVote

“How big is the hole? What if you miss? You just kick it in? What if that Peking Duck comes back to haunt you and you are not thinking “solid thoughts”?”

Valid questions all, but oh, so funny!


36 posted on 03/19/2008 9:36:15 AM PDT by Old Grumpy
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To: cowtowney

When our daughter and I were visiting friends in Japan, I just held it, if confronted with a squat toilet. Fortunately, most of the places we went had at least 1 ‘Western’ toilet. The other thing you had to look out for were the toilets for which you had to bring your own T.P. I wondered why, when we were walking around Tokyo, folks would hand out little packets of tissues, as advertising. Then my friend told me about the bring your own toilets, and I made sure to have a couple of packets with me at all times. ;o)


37 posted on 03/19/2008 9:36:56 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Old Professer

I can only imagine China’s response - You mean you allow your handicapped people to live?


38 posted on 03/19/2008 9:39:08 AM PDT by SengirV
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To: Charles Martel

I know a fellow who got an engineering job with Freeport-McMoRan, which included an overseas rotation to one of the company’s copper mines in Indonesia. He reported that the locals thought that all Americans must have very good balance in order to squat so far above the ground.


Reminds me of the old “hillbilly sold a chainsaw” joke (”what’s that noise?”)


39 posted on 03/19/2008 9:40:24 AM PDT by freedomlover (Make sure you're in love - before you move in the heavy stuff)
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To: cowtowney

40 posted on 03/19/2008 9:47:31 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: freedomlover

What’s the joke?


41 posted on 03/19/2008 9:48:30 AM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (Pork, just bring the hot sauce!)
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To: Ancesthntr

“Will they have TP? “

It depends on the location. I’ve seen both, but I would expect there to be TP. Some places only have a water hose to spray yourself. You wipe with your left hand, not your right.

This is why some countries cut off the right hand of thieves. You usually wipe yourself with your left hand and eat with your right hand. If you don’t have a hand, you have to do both with the left hand.


42 posted on 03/19/2008 9:48:47 AM PDT by cowtowney
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To: NYFriend

“You’d have the same problem in China. It would be a mess.”

I have a couple of friends that are working in China for a US corp. They have confirmed that the sit down toilets are quite messy because they do get used like squat toilets. He had to hold training sessions in the bathrooms for his staff and then again for each new hire.


43 posted on 03/19/2008 9:50:49 AM PDT by CSM (Kakistocracy: Government by the least qualified or most unprincipled citizens.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

You’re not going to be reading the Sunday sports section in that library


44 posted on 03/19/2008 9:51:42 AM PDT by cowtowney
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To: freedomlover
He reported that the locals thought that all Americans must have very good balance in order to squat so far above the ground.

He ain't seen nuthin'. Hovering over a toilet seat at a bar once one has imbibed too much is an act the Flying Wallendas would appreciate.

45 posted on 03/19/2008 9:54:04 AM PDT by processing please hold ( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
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To: TontoKowalski

lol in Misawa in the early eighties it was an eyeopener to see the old locals just squat over the binjo ditch on the street.


46 posted on 03/19/2008 9:54:12 AM PDT by lakeman
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To: WakeUpAndVote
Hillbilly goes to hardware store and hears he can cut 1000 times more wood than with his ax, if he buys one of them newfangled chainsaws.

Hillbilly goes home, tries it out, comes back to store complaining he didn't cut any better than with the saw, and in fact he cut less and worked harder.

Salesman checks oil, gas, etc, fires up the chainsaw.

Hillbilly says: “What's that noise?”

47 posted on 03/19/2008 9:55:16 AM PDT by freedomlover (Make sure you're in love - before you move in the heavy stuff)
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To: reagan_fanatic

What happens if you lose your balance?

I should think after a few drinks, squatting could be very messy!


48 posted on 03/19/2008 9:55:41 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: lakeman

lol in Misawa in the early eighties it was an eyeopener to see the old locals just squat over the binjo ditch on the street......

Why even leave your room? just hang a B.A. out the window...unless your on the ground floor.


49 posted on 03/19/2008 9:57:31 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: NYFriend
A friend of mine was in Moscow in maybe ‘93, ‘94, or ‘95, and said that all of the toilets at McDonalds (regular toilets) had footprints all over the seats,

Yep, worked with some Vietnamese, and they would do the same thing. Pissed us off seeing footprints on the seats all the time...............

50 posted on 03/19/2008 9:59:21 AM PDT by doorgunner69
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