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The Wright Dust-Up Shows and Proves That Many Whites Don’t Know Black People at All
Black America Web ^ | March 16, 2008 | Deborah Mathis

Posted on 03/17/2008 11:41:36 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

(IF LOVIN' THE U.S. IS WRONG) I DON'T WANT TO HEAR WRIGHT
Tune: "(If Lovin' You Is Wrong) I Don't Want to Be Right" Original

If lovin' the U.S. is wrong
I don't want to hear Wright
If joinin' his church means hearin' his hatred
I'd up and change belongin' tonight

Obama, your pastor says it's a shame
It's a downright disgrace
America's problems, all the blame
Is the fault of the white man's race

Barack, you say it's the future
And healing is in your plan
But if you can't leave this kind of hate
Believe me, yes we can

If lovin' the U.S. is wrong
I don't want to hear Wright
If lovin' the U.S. is wrong
I don't want to hear Wright

Am I wrong to smell
The sewage he loves to spew?
Knowin' you wanna lead, then why do you waffle
Defendin' you know who?

And am I wrong to question
Your ability to unite,
Knowin' you got someone there at church
Dividin' black and white?

And are you wrong to give your tithe
To a racist man?
And is he wrong for tryin' to get God
Not to bless but instead to damn?

If lovin' the U.S. is wrong
I don't want to hear Wright
If lovin' the U.S. is wrong
I don't want to hear Wright . . .

Are you wrong to give your tithe
To a racist man?
And is he wrong for tryin' to get God
Not to bless but instead to damn?

If lovin' the U.S. is wrong
I don't want to hear Wright
If lovin' the U.S. is wrong
I don't want to hear Wright

I don't want to hear Wright
If it means hearin' his hatred
I don't want to hear Wright
If it means black against white . . .

61 posted on 03/17/2008 12:04:52 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (The Wright Brothers.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This could be a teaching moment for the society at large, which would do well to pay closer attention to 35 million of its members and to give heed to their accounts of their own experiences.

This should be a teaching moment for black racists at large, who would do well to pay closer attention to the gospel of Jesus Christ and give head to His instructions on the nature of forgiveness, and the nature of the One Church.

This is just one more example of those hyphenated-Americans who have reached their level of alienation by not wanting to be Americans. They have never preached in my church about how horrible blacks are, or that whites should blame them for the shortcomings of our lives; can you imagine the uproar that would occur?

This is a rework of the central Liberal tennant: Rules for you, but not for me. You are a dirtbag if you don't tolerate them, but they can whail to the heavens, in the name of Jesus no less, that they have no need to ever tolerate you.

I have to give the good Reverand the same advise I offer to the followers of that baal Allah: I have to judge your god's power on how he treats you. Why in the world should I believe in what you preach if your god only makes people who are bitter, arrogant, cruel, vindictive, vicious, and blame everyone else for it.

62 posted on 03/17/2008 12:05:09 PM PDT by 50sDad (Liberals: Never Happy, Never Grateful, Never Right.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
DAMNS FROM
MY PASTOR

THE AUDACITY OF HATE

B A R A C K . . O B A M A

63 posted on 03/17/2008 12:05:13 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (The Wright Brothers.)
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To: yankeedame
The Wright Dust-Up Shows and Proves That Many Whites Don’t Know Black People at All

True. Whites who aren't racist and don't hate blacks mistakenly think that blacks aren't racist and don't hate them. They are quite often mistaken.

uses the pulpit to rant against racial duplicity and injustice.

Change "black" to "white" and "white" to "black" in those sermons, and no one anywhere would call it anything but racist hate speech. Racial injustice my butt.

The black church has always been the place for letting our hair down and speaking our peace -- a safe haven from the criminations outside.

Like Klan meetings, OK I get it.

64 posted on 03/17/2008 12:05:23 PM PDT by SampleMan (We are a free and industrious people, socialist nannies do not become us.)
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To: OpusatFR

Obama’s campaign isn’t over until Hillary steals the nomination out from under him at the convention.

This is playing out better than we all had hoped.

Obama’s gonna be dumped by the DEMOCRATS for being associated with beliefs that the majority of the far left and many of his supporters believe in.


65 posted on 03/17/2008 12:06:00 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Anyone want to guess why Sunday is the most segregated day of the week? I'm a Southern Baptist and the worst SBC church I ever set foot in doesn't live up to a tenth of the stereotype that Rev. Wright perpetuates.

Of course, just to show how strong stereotypes can be, my Mother-In-Law went to her grave sure that her daughter was kept chained to the stove, given an allowance and not allowed to make any decisions for herself. Anyone who has argued with my wife on FR knows I'm not in charge around here.
66 posted on 03/17/2008 12:06:53 PM PDT by Pan_Yan (Will the last conservative in the GOP please shut off the lights?)
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To: pierrem15

I’m curious as to how many whites are in Obama’s closest political circle. If he does indeed have a number of white advisors, I find it impossible to believe that they didn’t see this coming and warn him. And I don’t mean a token white here or there. If he has mostly or all black advisors, that speaks volumes.


67 posted on 03/17/2008 12:07:25 PM PDT by ChocChipCookie (Homeschool like your kids' lives depend on it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So let me get this straight...Barack Obama’s pastor makes an ill-considered remark in the sanctity of his church, and Obama is called out in the public pulpit and made out to be somehow responsible for it. But, for the last 28 years, lunatic right-wing Christian ministers can spew anti-gay, anti-woman, anti-Arab, anti-Semitic, anti-Catholic, anti-science anti-human bile from their cable networks and talk shows; summon the wrath of their god on the Muslim world; and call for the assassination of foreign leaders — and the Republican presidents and politicians who consort with them not only get off scot free, they get away with branding the media as liberal.


68 posted on 03/17/2008 12:07:34 PM PDT by MurryMom
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Racism is racism is racism. White, black, brown, yellow or blue, no amount of racism justifies more racism.

You don’t fix racism with racism. You don’t fix hate with hate. You don’t fix anger with anger.

Either you ARE or ARE NOT a racist. Rev Wright’s speech is no different than that of the KKK. In his speeches if you changed the word “white” to “black” it would be clear to anyone willing to see.

For ALL American’s, of all colors, who have worked to put racism to to proper death, Wright’s speech is what it is.

You can’t defend it without believing in it, supporting it and being it.

Ball’s in your court, Mr Obama...


69 posted on 03/17/2008 12:07:50 PM PDT by BFM (CLINTON is and always will be a rapist. Never forget!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

***Comments?***

I don’t know what is more unpalatable to me: Racism or the justification of Racism. Everyone has a reason to gripe except the super rich who are part of some aristocracy.


70 posted on 03/17/2008 12:08:49 PM PDT by Lord_Calvinus
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To: AZFolks
The whole thing, especially the full throated defense of this hateful person by a significant number of blacks is appalling and frightening.

Where were you when the OJ verdict was cheered. It was an expression of the same deep hatred of whites.

71 posted on 03/17/2008 12:08:50 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: mdmathis6

Heard some bigwig in the Dhimmicrat party yesterday (meet the press I think) defend Wright’s speeches as the truth.

One thing that struck me funny was when he demanded to know why we had to drop a second A-Bomb on Japan when one was clearly more than enough.

Well, Mr. Leftwing Historical Ignoramus - the Japanese refused to surrender after the first one.

Just goes to prove, you HAVE to be ignorant to be a leftist/dhimmirat.


72 posted on 03/17/2008 12:08:53 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"But, then, in a fair world, there would be no racial divide to bridge. Of course, Obama’s detractors would never consider that."

PROJECTION ....as usual...from Democrats, aka Black Separatists....who have been feeding their children filth for decades....what you fill your head with is what you become!!!

73 posted on 03/17/2008 12:09:40 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Being Challenged Builds Character; Being Coddled Destroys Character)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

BS........there is a group of white people who do the same thing....their initials are KKK.........


74 posted on 03/17/2008 12:09:52 PM PDT by joe fonebone (Screw McPain....J. Fred Muggs for POTUS)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
But, then, in a fair world, there would be no racial divide to bridge.

Are these people so blind they don't see who is creating the "racial divide" that needs to be bridged? Most Americans don't see color, black or white, unless it's worn as a badge, as a sign of victimhood, or as a chip on a shoulder.

The big danger here is that MLK's dream is being trampled on, and the gains of the last 30 years are being negated - by the very people he was so instrumental in helping. And they are doing it in his name!

75 posted on 03/17/2008 12:09:55 PM PDT by Helen
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t think the divide is racial so much as “civil” vs. “uncivil”.

That is, black people who work to succeed in life are often very civil, polite and personable.

Their major concern with whites is that they be *recognized* as civil, and distinguished from the uncivil. Civil black people are haunted by the inability of most whites to distinguish them in this way. Many white people seem unaware of their dress, manner, politeness, and erudite speech.

Granted, the uncivil of any color try to blur the distinction between themselves and the civil. Scoundrels, the criminal, the gross and stupid often pretend to be the way they think civil people behave. ‘To take on airs’.

But civil white people can easily align themselves with and identify with civil black people. Just with ordinary conversation, speaking and listening with respect, they build strong bridges with civil black people.

However, this in no way associates civil white people with uncivil black people. The uncivil deserve no recognition or politeness due to their color. And as I said, it is easy to tell civil and uncivil people apart.

It even works the other way. Tiger Woods is a gentleman, and demonstrates his good breeding, manners, and talents to everyone. He is erudite and polite.

Bill Clinton is not a gentleman. He is a person of low quality, bad breeding, crude manners, and the demeanor of a con artist. He was therefore desperate to become associated with Tiger Woods, something Woods had to firmly refuse, and several times.

The bottom line is that color is incidental in a relationship between civil people. The commonalities between people of character far outweigh the differences, which only needs a modicum of effort to prove. And in most circles, and effort that will both be appreciated and returned.


76 posted on 03/17/2008 12:10:22 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The candidate has denounced Rev. Wright’s statements about America’s treachery, honest as they were.

Then its not much of a denouncement. You can feel as angry as you want to feel, you and your ilk. I don’t care and I certainly won’t give any vote of mine to such misguided and uninformed fools.


77 posted on 03/17/2008 12:10:45 PM PDT by Adder (hialb)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Before the blood had a chance to dry on Martin Luther King Jr’s vestments, Jesse Jackson scooped up his fallen sword and marched forth into the fray of the pundits vs the apologists claiming the throne so indignantly abandoned only to get lost in the Garden of Entitlement.

Now comes a reality-inspired claimant, self-made out of sterner stuff and we see him as he galloped across the landscape of white guilt wiping out barrier after barrier only to be brought up short by the lame black horse he chose to ride.

Is he a modern-day Pony Express, a fresh steed at the ready, snorting and raring to race the last remaining mile or is he too far short of his goal and resigned to sit inside the rocking coach as his Wells Fargo dash turns into the farrago it was doomed to be?


78 posted on 03/17/2008 12:11:05 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is it safe to assume, then, that MOST black people will be upset if the super-delegates decide to fulfill their duty and nominate the “more-electable” candidate?


79 posted on 03/17/2008 12:11:15 PM PDT by Galatians513 (this space available for catchy tagline)
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To: BwanaNdege
People are people. Evaluate their CHARACTER and actions, don't get hung up on their physical characteristics and backgrounds.

I guess it never occurs to some people that we all have our own stuff to deal with. I don't have the energy to oppress anyone...my laundry is piled up, the toilets need scrubbing and I've got dentist appointments to get to.

80 posted on 03/17/2008 12:11:34 PM PDT by Dianna
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