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German police shoot U.S. soldier dead
Yahoo news ^ | Mar 14 | Reuters

Posted on 03/15/2008 1:52:07 AM PDT by SolidWood

BERLIN (Reuters) - A U.S. soldier stationed in southern Germany was shot dead by police after threatening an ex-girlfriend and then going on the run armed with an assault rifle, authorities said on Friday.

The 30-year old, who was serving in the 2nd, "Dagger," brigade of the U.S. 1st Infantry Division, broke into the woman's house late on Thursday, threatened her and tied her up, police in the Bavarian region of Unterfranken said.

She was able to free herself and alerted the police, who began a search using a commando unit and a helicopter equipped with thermal imaging equipment.

Officers found the soldier several hundred meters from the woman's house and tried to arrest him but he threatened them with the semi-automatic rifle and was shot, police said.

He died in hospital early on Friday, according to a statement from the "Dagger" Brigade Chain of Command.

"The Dagger Brigade along with the United States Army Europe takes incidents of this nature extremely seriously and will continue to work with the German authorities to maintain community safety," the statement said.

The name of the soldier was being withheld until his next of kin had been informed, it added.

German police said there was no indication that officers had acted illegally and prosecutors were not planning to open an investigation into the marksmen.

"The officers had to assume that the suspect was going to fire on them with the weapon," a police statement said.

(Reporting by Iain Rogers, editing by Mark Trevelyan)


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1stid; army; daggerbrigade; germany; police; soldier
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1 posted on 03/15/2008 1:52:09 AM PDT by SolidWood
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To: SolidWood

bump


2 posted on 03/15/2008 2:09:19 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: SolidWood

Kind of a sad event. This guy had issues and he was messing around with a weapon in Germany...which the German cops won’t give you much discussion. I’m betting either drugs or alcohol were involved as well. Over the past three years...there have been a dozen similar incidents...although this is the only time the cops pulled out their weapons and had to shoot the guy. The interesting thing...these incidents all involve girlfriends or former girlfriends. Here in the Kaiserslautern area...we even had the Army wife (active duty)...who stabbed her alcoholic husband when he threatened her...which she will be facing some kind of assault charges apparently in German court.


3 posted on 03/15/2008 2:11:08 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: SolidWood

Profoundly sad story: nobody wins in this one.


4 posted on 03/15/2008 2:23:39 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghill mi do dhuine. Fg am bealach.)
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To: SolidWood

In any sizable group, someone’s going to go bonkers.


5 posted on 03/15/2008 2:30:29 AM PDT by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: SolidWood

Prayers for everyone involved in this tragedy.


6 posted on 03/15/2008 2:32:51 AM PDT by LibertyRocks (The Liberty Rocks Blog - http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com ~ also see; http://www.libertyrocks.us)
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To: SolidWood
Sounds like a note in their service jackets for a chaplain and a shrink. This didn't happen all at once.
7 posted on 03/15/2008 4:13:29 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: Westlander
In any sizable group, someone’s going to go bonkers.

Wisdom for the day. Gotta remember that one - simple and true.

8 posted on 03/15/2008 4:48:09 AM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: SolidWood

Very sad. The cops did what they had to do.


9 posted on 03/15/2008 4:52:31 AM PDT by DogBarkTree (The correct word isn't "immigrant" when what they are doing is "invading".)
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To: SolidWood

Gun control at work again. Germany has some of the toughest gun control laws in the world, so where did he get his rifle?

I am not military, but (since we arent’ in Switzerland), I can’t imagine that soldiers take their issue rifles home with them.


10 posted on 03/15/2008 5:02:24 AM PDT by bone52
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Gun control at work again. Germany has some of the toughest gun control laws in the world, so where did he get his rifle?

I wonder how difficult it would've been for him to travel back to the US on leave and mail the rifle to his German address? Probably not very difficult at all.

11 posted on 03/15/2008 5:07:30 AM PDT by Drew68
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I would suspect a soldier wouldn’t be so stupid as to break numerous US and German laws by mailing a rifle to himself. If he bought the rifle from a dealer he knows about FFL’s and their role in firearm exchanges.

Additionally, USPS has increased their package screening since 9/11. If a rifle size and weight package being sent to a military APO doesn’t raise suspicions . . .

What I am saying is it seems unlikely that he mailed the rifle to himself.


12 posted on 03/15/2008 5:16:02 AM PDT by bone52
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To: Drew68

I would suspect a soldier wouldn’t be so stupid as to break numerous US and German laws by mailing a rifle to himself. If he bought the rifle from a dealer he knows about FFL’s and their role in firearm exchanges.

Additionally, USPS has increased their package screening since 9/11. If a rifle size and weight package being sent to a military APO doesn’t raise suspicions . . .

What I am saying is it seems unlikely that he mailed the rifle to himself.


13 posted on 03/15/2008 5:16:03 AM PDT by bone52
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To: bone52

When I was stationed in Germany in the lates 70’s, we had a “Rod and Gun Club” on base. One could purchase weapons there ... rifles, handguns, shotguns. Most of the guys kept theirs in the armory for safekeeping. There are many hunters in Germany and the game is plentiful. Not being a hunter myself, I’m not sure what all was involved in getting a hunters license but I’m sure that it was legal to own weapons. Many times sitting in an off-base Coventional Weapons storage area early in the morning, guarding the munitions, I would see armed hunters right outside of my fence.


14 posted on 03/15/2008 5:27:51 AM PDT by Mustng959
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To: SolidWood

Sad but it appears the cops did the right thing.


15 posted on 03/15/2008 6:03:47 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: SolidWood

Do they let police have guns in Germany? I thought they were basically eunics.


16 posted on 03/15/2008 6:09:37 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: pepsionice

I have a problem when we let Germans and not our own army deal with such problems. It’s a bad precedent.

As for these problems having to deal with girlfriends, it is indeed alarming. Any such could be a foreign spy playing with a guy and we kill our own instead. As a matter of fact it has been the method of feminists of late. Even women who stand by their men see the couple being attacked by jealous third parties and strangely hungry prosecutions.


17 posted on 03/15/2008 6:11:31 AM PDT by JudgemAll (control freaks, their world & their problem with my gun and my protecting my private party)
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To: Brilliant

Ah, not so when we help them out from behind. It’s PC in Germany to kill an American, not so to kill a Turk or an anarchist.


18 posted on 03/15/2008 6:13:11 AM PDT by JudgemAll (control freaks, their world & their problem with my gun and my protecting my private party)
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To: Brilliant
You're thinking of the U.K. German police are well armed and trained.

CC

19 posted on 03/15/2008 6:17:39 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative ("Minutum Cantorum, Minutum Baloram, Minutum Carboratum Descendam Pantorum")
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To: Brilliant
Do they let police have guns in Germany? I thought they were basically eunics.

You are thinking of England. The German cops are well armed and professional. You don't want to mess with the German cops.

This sounds like a standard 'suicide by cop'.

20 posted on 03/15/2008 6:20:06 AM PDT by PAR35
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