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The Myth of Objectivity
Newsweek ^ | Mar 10, 2008 | Evan Thomas

Posted on 03/10/2008 4:54:17 PM PDT by forkinsocket

She tried to make a joke of it. At the debate in Cleveland last week, Hillary Clinton brought up a "Saturday Night Live" skit about journalists fawning over Barack Obama at a mock debate. "Maybe we should ask Barack if he's comfortable and needs another pillow," said Clinton. Humor is often a substitute for anger, and if Clinton wasn't all that funny, maybe it is because she is sore at the press for seeming to go easier on her opponent. She has a point, but the truth about the media and the campaign cannot be caricatured simply as the deification of Obama and the hounding of Clinton.

The pols and the people invest the press with great power. Conspiracies abound. Right-wing talk-show hosts love to go on about the liberal media establishment. Lefty commentators accuse the press of rolling over for George W. Bush before the invasion of Iraq. Politicians of all stripes accuse the press of being unfair, even cruel. Sometimes we are. On the day Vice President George H.W. Bush announced for the presidency in October 1987, he watched as his 28-year-old daughter, Doro, wept when she picked up NEWSWEEK's cover story that week, picturing Bush driving his speedboat under the cover line FIGHTING THE 'WIMP FACTOR.' Bush was, understandably, furious. The phrase "wimp factor" came from Bush's own pollster, and we said he was fighting it, but we nevertheless left the impression that we were calling the vice president a wimp. In the end, the story had little impact because voters already understood that Bush, a World War II hero, was plenty tough. He was elected president the next year.

Certainly, there are editors and publishers who would like to be kingmakers, or just kings.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsweek.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bias; media; msm; objectivity
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1 posted on 03/10/2008 4:54:18 PM PDT by forkinsocket
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To: forkinsocket
The mainstream media (the "MSM" the bloggers love to rail against) are prejudiced, but not ideologically

uh huh.....right.

Evan Thomas is one of the most prejudiced out there. Has he EVER said anything good about George W?

2 posted on 03/10/2008 5:09:13 PM PDT by what's up
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To: forkinsocket
News people are all too human, and sometimes they are not even aware of their biases. But on the whole, the mainstream press does try, with imperfect results, to be fair. The big news organizations are not at all relaxed about getting it wrong. Big mistakes—fraud, plagiarism, outright deceit—can kill careers.

Bravo Sierra here. Let's not forget this or this.

3 posted on 03/10/2008 5:13:33 PM PDT by HoosierHawk
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To: forkinsocket
The Myth of Objectivity

Darn, I thought this was going to be an Ayn Rand thread :)

4 posted on 03/10/2008 5:15:26 PM PDT by Popman (Gold Standard: Trying to squeeze a 50 lb economy back into a 5 lb bag)
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To: forkinsocket
And let's not forget the continual thrashing of the New York Slimes.


5 posted on 03/10/2008 5:16:58 PM PDT by HoosierHawk
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To: forkinsocket
I write a daily syndicated news-based humor service for radio DJs, and one of the things I hear back most often from clients is how much they appreciate that the news items we write to set up our topical jokes are accurate, objective and PC-free. So after doing this for 17 years, I know a little bit about how to write a new story. And while it's impossible to be completely objective (just choosing to run one story instead of another is a subjective judgment), I can assure you that:

1. It's possible to get a heck of a lot closer to objectivity than most mainstream media news outlets do; and

2. The claim that they are not politically biased is hilarious.

I stopped watching ABC's World News Tonight because of the blatant bias: the disparity in time given to the liberal vs. conservative side, the ascribing of motives for people's actions that they couldn't possibly know, the use of words loaded with negative connotations in introducing the conservative view, etc. etc. I could go through any of those scripts with a blue pencil and denude it of 95% of the liberal bias in 15 minutes, so I always find it laughable that all those "professional journalists" with the Ivy League degrees have the stones to claim with a straight face that it's all in the viewers' imaginations and can't be any more objective than it is.

Sidenote: I once interviewed Penn Jillette, and he told me he had covered the '92 presidential conventions for the Comedy Channel (now Comedy Central). He said that at the GOP Convention, all the reporters in the press room were mocking Bush for saying the liberal media were against him. So he stood up on a chair and in his famous booming voice, asked, "Excuse me, quick poll! How many people here voted for Bush in 1988?" He said they all just stared at him in confusion, and nobody raised a hand. So he said, "Okay, you're right! Bush is crazy to think you're against him!"

6 posted on 03/10/2008 5:26:29 PM PDT by HHFi
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To: forkinsocket; conservatism_IS_compassion; HHFi

Thanks for posting. Ping.

This article is an example of bias.

Thanks for your insight/experience, HHFi.


7 posted on 03/10/2008 7:04:05 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: forkinsocket; big'ol_freeper; TrueKnightGalahad; blackie; Larry Lucido; Diplomat; honolulugal; ...
The only Objectivity there is in today's television news media is when Fox has Brit Hume discussing politics or when they show Courtney Friel fantastic cleavage!


8 posted on 03/10/2008 7:18:39 PM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: HHFi
it's impossible to be completely objective (just choosing to run one story instead of another is a subjective judgment)
True - but that isn't even the half of it. The decision to run any stories at all is not objective. And neither is the decision to run only new stories.

Journalists call themselves "the press," and have an organization called the "National Press Club" - but journalism as we know it did not exist when the First Amendment was ratified. Journalism as we know it is an artifact of the telegraph and the Associated Press, which came in in the middle of the Nineteenth Century.

In the founding era, Jefferson and Hamilton waged their political battles in partisan newspapers which they sponsored. And before the advent of the telegraph "wire," newspapers had no source of news which was reliably "new" to all of their readers. So "newspapers" of that era were often weeklies - and some had no deadline at all and just went to press when they were good and ready. Naturally, a "newspaper" such as that would be heavily laced with opinion and would have no basis on which to claim objectivity since its competitors would have different perspectives and would have no reason to defer to the superior wisdom or "objectivity" of any other paper.

As a monopolistic entity, the Associated Press had to claim objectivity to deflect criticism. So modern AP newspapers likewise purport to be objective - and simultaneously refuse to question the objectivity of any other AP newspaper. The modern newspaper openly expresses its publisher's opinion only on the editorial page, thereby positioning the rest of the paper as being objective.

The Market for Conservative-Based News


9 posted on 03/11/2008 11:15:16 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The Democratic Party is only a front for the political establishment in America - Big Journalism.)
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