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Angry Boeing Supporters Target McCain
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080308/D8V9AE100.html ^ | MATTHEW DALY

Posted on 03/08/2008 1:23:39 PM PST by Weird Tolkienish Figure

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To: bill1952

McCain is at heart an ideological boy scout who doesn’t want
corrupt elections, doesn’t want prisoners to be tortured the way he was tortured, and wants the poor old Mexicans to have a fair deal from the US that they cant get from their own government. I don’t agree with his views and his Naive
Rodney King(can’t we just get along) view of politics.

That being said, I don’t see him as a traitor to America, just as a man longing for an old style America that doesn’t exist any more! It might even be a just and good vision, but we can’t get there by using the solutions he advocates and by dealing with our nation’s enemies,foreign or domestic, in any way BUT a pugnacious fashion!


61 posted on 03/08/2008 2:46:44 PM PST by mdmathis6
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To: Oztrich Boy

The truth is when people say they want govt spending cut, what they really mean is cut govt spending for thee but not for me.


62 posted on 03/08/2008 2:49:08 PM PST by Kuksool (Hussein Obama will Change America for the worse.)
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To: Weird Tolkienish Figure
On Friday, Boeing officials were briefed on why the decision went against them. They are very busy this weekend deciding whether or not to protest the contract award. On Monday, Northrop Grumman officials will be briefed on why they won the contract.

It appears to me that the Pentagon went to great lengths to avoid improprieties in this process. The initial reports, showing that NG was rated better in 5 out of 6 categories, seems to show that NG gave the government a significantly better proposed design. Boeing may have a hard row to hoe if they try to protest the decision. In addition, if they protest and fail to get the award changed, the government has ways of making their life miserable in the future. The government folks have long memories...

Boeing's best approach to this may be to let sleeping dogs lie and to go after the B-52 replacement that is now being considered. They have plenty of experience building bombers.

63 posted on 03/08/2008 3:07:44 PM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Weird Tolkienish Figure
Boeing loosing a deal because of McCain?.. at least he's consistent in backstabbing his own countrymen, that's what we in a President,isn't that right McCainiac's?
64 posted on 03/08/2008 3:13:48 PM PST by gitmogrunt (The sad reality is I might have no choice but to vote for the little sadist in November.)
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To: Weird Tolkienish Figure

This is it for me. McCain will not be getting my vote. There is no way. Let the Dems win. McCain is a damn Dem anyway.


65 posted on 03/08/2008 3:14:23 PM PST by GOP Poet
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To: jude24
This deal needed to be blocked. Ms. Druyun had negotiated Boeing jobs for herself, her daughter, and her future son-in-law. That's bribery. Boeing is lucky they even had a chance to re-negotiate.

I stayed away from this in my earlier post, but you are absolutely correct. Boeing had to pay out $615,000,000 in penalties for their part in the Darleen Druyun shenanigans. This stuff was almost certainly in the back of the minds of the Selection Board when they made the decision and might have been used as an informal decision criteria had the issue been closer. Like I said, the government has long memories.

66 posted on 03/08/2008 3:14:43 PM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Weird Tolkienish Figure
The European Aeronautic Defence and Space Co. and its U.S. partner, Los Angeles-based Northrop Grumman, won a competition with Boeing Feb. 29 to build the refueling planes in one of the biggest Pentagon contracts in decades. The unexpected decision has sparked outrage from union halls to the halls of Congress over the impact on U.S. jobs, prestige and national security. EADS and Northrop say about 60 percent of their tanker will be built in the U.S.

Large procurements such as this one are based on the merits of each proposal. If Boeing was not selected it would be because the proposal evaluators found their competitor to be significantly better in terms of management, cost, and risk. Perhaps Boeing was depending upon being "saved" by political maneuvering, rather than by a superior proposal!

67 posted on 03/08/2008 3:17:06 PM PST by olezip
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To: Weird Tolkienish Figure

There’s no political loss from that commie, feminazi State. They were mostly Democrats to begin with.


68 posted on 03/08/2008 3:37:08 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: 2111USMC
"Note that every complainer in the article has a “D” after their name."

Most of the population in Kansas leans way to the anti-family left, and property taxes are extremely high there.
69 posted on 03/08/2008 3:43:36 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: Weird Tolkienish Figure

The Boeing tanker includes parts manufactured in Japan, United Kingdom, Canada and Italy. The Northrop Grumman tanker includes parts built in the United Kingdom, Germany, Spain and France.

The NG bid will utilize 230 US companies in 49 states.

No sensitive military technology will be exported to Europe. For the KC-45A program, a commercial A330 jetliner will be assembled by American workers in EADS’s facility in Mobile. The aircraft will then undergo military conversion in an adjacent Northrop Grumman facility. All of the KC-45A’s critical military technology will be added by an American company, Northrop Grumman, in America.


70 posted on 03/08/2008 4:39:18 PM PST by ThaiAficionado
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To: Weird Tolkienish Figure
"...she has a God-awful annoying voice."

Yes, if Hillary is elected, I will have to disable the audio on all the TV's and toss my radios just to survive.

71 posted on 03/08/2008 5:22:22 PM PST by penowa
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"I hope the voters of this state remember what John McCain has done to them and their jobs," said Rep. Norm Dicks, D-Wash.,

Had Boeing been able to keep schedule with delivery of 767 tankers to Italy; first delivery was scheduled for November 2005 and is now slated for mid 2008, and Japan; first delivery was scheduled for December of 2006 and is now slated for first quarter 2008, then maybe the Pentagon wouldn't have looked elsewhere, Dicks.

72 posted on 03/08/2008 6:42:37 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
"And another thing: why the f*** did McCain steer a defense contract to a FOREIGN COMPANY???"

I recall that when Boeing moved its HQ out of WA it was downplayed by the company saying it is no longer an American company because its parts are manufactured around the globe, close to its customers, and it wanted to move its HQ to a global trade center. Don't cry for Boeing.

73 posted on 03/08/2008 7:29:23 PM PST by balls
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To: Weird Tolkienish Figure
(AP) Republican presidential candidate, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz.,turns away after talking to reporters... Full Image "Having made sure that Iraq gets new schools, roads, bridges and dams that we deny America, now we are making sure that France gets the jobs that Americans used to have," said Rep. Rahm Emanuel, D-Ill. "We are sending the jobs overseas, all because John McCain demanded it."

Aren't the Democrats always complaining that Europeans hate us because of the Repubican administration? How the heck are we supposed to be liked if we refuse to do businss with them?

74 posted on 03/08/2008 7:41:23 PM PST by Koblenz (The Dem Platform, condensed: 1. Tax and Spend. 2. Cut and Run. 3. Man on Man)
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To: LasVegasMac
And I think there must be all of 100 people that realize that....

Evidence suggests to me that mankind is in short supply of even the most modest quantity of simple deductive reasoning, and I've managed to be cursed with just enough to see the obvious (ignorance actually can be bliss, I've decided.)

What is obvious is that just the threat of an economic blockade against the US would be sufficient to cut this nation's lifeline. And, if one wonders how much of this nation would respond, one has only to look at the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.

75 posted on 03/09/2008 3:11:10 AM PDT by The Duke (I have met the enemy, and he is named 'Apathy'!)
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To: richardtavor
I pray and hope that the Air Force chose the best contract based on competition. Providing jobs shouldn’t be the prime driver for rewarding contracts.

You seem to misunderstand how government works. When the other betrays the public interest for personal or political gain, it's corruption. When our guys do it, they're providing jobs and promoting national security.

76 posted on 03/09/2008 3:44:31 AM PDT by garbanzo (Government is not the solution to our problems. Government is the problem.)
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