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McCain gets conservative grassroots support when...
March 4, 2008 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 03/04/2008 9:42:04 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Edited on 03/04/2008 9:44:50 PM PST by Jim Robinson. [history]

..hell freezes over.

But he can start the cooling process.

Here are a few starters:

1) Don't just promise to do it, but as a U.S. Senator he can actually draft a bill NOW to repeal McCain-Feingold. And if he has the leadership ability to be an effective president, he can prove it by getting it passed BEFORE November. If not, he's the loser we all know he is.

2) Immediately drop and forcefully repudiate ALL amnesty B/S. Publicly burn all drafts and plans for amnesty and immediately fire all advisers and staffers pushing this garbage. Secure the borders NOW. No need to wait for the election.

3) Immediately drop and forcefully repudiate ALL global warming baloneyism. Publicly burn all drafts and plans for "fighting" global warming and immediately fire all advisers and staffers pushing this garbage.

4) Immediately learn and understand that as grassroots conservatives we are NOT interested in electing a Republican who wants to work WITH the Democrats. Let's face it. Clinton, Obama, Kennedy, Kerry, Schumer, Reid, Pelosi, Murtha, et al, ARE the enemy. We don't want Republican leaders aiding and abetting the enemy, we want Republican leaders with the cojones to FIGHT the evil bastards!!

Mr. McCain, if you want my vote, you're gonna have to earn it. Unfortunately, I doubt you're up to it.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 2008; election; elections; gop; mccain
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To: EternalVigilance
>>>>>Just answer the question.

I can tell you this. I would never vote for Alan Keyes. Its really a moot point. Alan Keyes couldn't get elected dog catcher.

My point was, you don't like Thompson and you don't like McCain either. In fact, you don't like anyone but Alan Keyes.

141 posted on 03/04/2008 11:30:58 PM PST by Reagan Man (McCain Wants My Conservative Vote --- EARN IT or NO DEAL !!!)
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To: roamer_1

I remember that, as it was an intriguing sign of what we expected later. But later never came. Maybe he would have at some point, but he never followed through with a proposal on that point.


142 posted on 03/04/2008 11:32:07 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Jim Robinson
Mr. McCain, if you want my vote, you're gonna have to earn it. Unfortunately, I doubt you're up to it.

I seriously doubt the McCain is up to it, too. John McCain received an angry email from me in 2000 informing him that I would never, ever vote for him for president. Nothing he has done since that day has caused me to change my mind. I intend to keep my word.

143 posted on 03/04/2008 11:32:17 PM PST by upsdriver
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To: Jim Robinson; P-Marlowe

Sorry, Jim, but it’s not gonna happen.

I voted against McCain today by voting for Huckabee here in Ohio.

He won’t work to repeal McCain/Feingold.
He won’t stop working for amnesty.
He won’t stop pushing the global warming.

The only way to support him at this point is based on his VP selection. The untold story of Tex and Ohio tonight is that everyone knew McCain had it locked up, but he still had this stubborn 30% voting against him. They will make or break his nomination.

Who should he choose if he wants rapproachment with conservatives? A real conservative.....Thompson, JC Watts, Rick Santorum, Pence.

I don’t think he’ll do it. I think he believes he can fight over the middle and left with Clinton/Obama and win. I think he’ll fight behind the scenes to get Rino Condaleeza to join his ticket; maybe Colin Powell. Maybe Joe Liebermann. He’s a politician.

In other words, the strategy will be to marginalize the conservatives. In that case, I’m hoping the CP doesn’t pick a wingnut as a candidate.


144 posted on 03/04/2008 11:33:34 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: Reagan Man

So, you admit that you would never vote for Alan Keyes, but haven’t said the same thing about John McCain.

I get the picture.


145 posted on 03/04/2008 11:35:10 PM PST by EternalVigilance ("What fellowship has light with darkness?")
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To: isthisnickcool
I'd vote for a dead guy before Obama or Hillary. Which, after seeing McCain today is what I may be doing.

I'm counting on it.

146 posted on 03/04/2008 11:39:01 PM PST by ARE SOLE (Agents Ramos and Campean are in prison at this very moment.. (A "Concerned Citizen".)
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To: MaxFlint
It would take a miracle for McCain to win without conservatives.

...unless there's a 'wagging of the dog' between now and then, a possibility we should fear... And I would not put it past them either.

147 posted on 03/04/2008 11:45:41 PM PST by roamer_1 (Conservative always, Republican no more.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Hiya, Jim. I’ve always said that McCain will get my vote the day he promises to make his SCOTUS nominees swear they will overturn McCain-Feingold if given the chance.


148 posted on 03/04/2008 11:50:23 PM PST by Rastus
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To: Reagan Man
You won't be voting for McCain and I might not be voting for McCain. However, most cosnervatives will be voting for McCain. You know it and I know it.

Most registered Republicans will vote for McCain. Most conservatives? I can believe 70% will, using a very loose definition of conservative. Is that most?

If you had a ballot in front of you come November that contained the names of Obama or Clinton, McCain, Nader and Thompson, who would you cast your vote for?

Thompson, naturally.

149 posted on 03/04/2008 11:51:49 PM PST by MaxFlint
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Maybe he would have at some point, but he never followed through with a proposal on that point.

Accepted, and on that note, I will cede the point.

150 posted on 03/04/2008 11:51:55 PM PST by roamer_1 (Conservative always, Republican no more.)
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To: EternalVigilance
>>>>>I get the picture.

I'm glad you do.

>>>>>So, you admit that you would never vote for Alan Keyes, but haven’t said the same thing about John McCain.

And for good reason. I don't like Alan Keyes and he wouldn't make a good POTUS. Period. Right now I'll take a wait and see position on McCain. I'll tell you this, the options for winning are limited. No way do I want to see either of the two Democrat candidates elected POTUS. Both are repulsive creatures and both would push the USA even further leftward. As a conservative, my objective is to advance conservatism, not liberalism.

151 posted on 03/04/2008 11:52:42 PM PST by Reagan Man (McCain Wants My Conservative Vote --- EARN IT or NO DEAL !!!)
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To: P-Marlowe

Forget about waking me up on Monday. Wake me up in 5 yrs.

152 posted on 03/04/2008 11:54:22 PM PST by abigailsmybaby (I was born with nothing. So far I have most of it left.)
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To: Reagan Man

You’re blind, dude.


153 posted on 03/04/2008 11:55:17 PM PST by EternalVigilance ("What fellowship has light with darkness?")
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To: roamer_1
It would take a miracle for McCain to win without conservatives.
...unless there's a 'wagging of the dog' between now and then, a possibility we should fear... And I would not put it past them either.

I wouldn't be so sure that a national security crisis or terrorist attack would help McCain. Right now the strongest argument Bush can make is that we haven't been attacked since 9/11. If something happens there will be a lot of finger pointing, and with the media's help those fingers could point right at Bush and McCain, regardless of the real causes.

154 posted on 03/04/2008 11:58:41 PM PST by MaxFlint
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To: xzins
A major brand name, credible national CONSERVATIVE LEADER needs to step forward NOW and go for the U.S. Constitution Party nomination. As you said, the CP nominating a "wingnut" will not be enough for us. Instead of going with Herbert Alvin Furstwatter, Jr., a bowling alley manager from Pinedork, Arkansas, or Willard Klingbinger, a retired drywall product salesman from Buzzards Gut, Montana, somebody we never heard of who DOES NOT HAVE THE EXECUTIVE CREDENTIALS TO BE THE PRESIDENT, will not really give us a choice with the conservative, third option Constitution Party.

Which nationally recognized Conservative Leader who has held a Governorship, Senate or House Seat is now ready to step forward and perhaps risk severing his chances within the GOP for good, to get the Constitution Party nomination and then work to get it ballot qualified in all fifty states?

It might be waiting for a "savior" but MAN I hope that "savior" appears QUICK! to take on both McShame and Clinton/Osama, nationwide, with deep pockets, and with all the ferocity millions of us Conservatives would be willing to raise on his behalf at the grassroots.

155 posted on 03/04/2008 11:59:13 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (The GOP serves a huge cr*p sandwich every 4 years to Conservatives, & sez "shut up!, no choice!")
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To: MaxFlint

Most Republicans are more or less conservative by nature -—social or fiscal conservatives. In both 2000 and 2004 Bush got over 90% of the Republican vote. My guess is, McCain will get the same level of support in 2008 from GOP voters. Add in the Independents and Democrats who’ll vote for JohnnyMac and good chance he’ll be our next POTUS. A solid conservative running mate would help McCain’s chances of winning.


156 posted on 03/05/2008 12:01:32 AM PST by Reagan Man (McCain Wants My Conservative Vote --- EARN IT or NO DEAL !!!)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Right. He can’t even say “Hussein”.


157 posted on 03/05/2008 12:04:02 AM PST by Defiant (Para votar Obama, se necessita una cabeza de nada...un cabeza de nada, para mi para ti, ay arriba..)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Which nationally recognized Conservative Leader who has held a Governorship, Senate or House Seat is now ready to step forward and perhaps risk severing his chances within the GOP for good, to get the Constitution Party nomination and then work to get it ballot qualified in all fifty states?

Nobody. The only national figures who aren't party loyalists are entertainers. Limbaugh proved his cowardice when he refused to back any conservative against McCain early on. He sat on the fence so he wouldn't look bad if his choice didn't win. Hannity, forget it. The guy is a lightweight intellectually. Herbert Alvin Furstwatter, Jr., a bowling alley manager from Pinedork, Arkansas, could wipe the floor with Hannity if he didn't have call screeners and the dump button. Don't get me started on O'Reilly.

158 posted on 03/05/2008 12:04:20 AM PST by MaxFlint
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To: MaxFlint

I like the way you write.


159 posted on 03/05/2008 12:06:21 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (The GOP serves a huge cr*p sandwich every 4 years to Conservatives, & sez "shut up!, no choice!")
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To: CharlesWayneCT
He’ll either win without conservatives, or with conservatives.

Why, then, logically... you and all the rest of Team Juan's happy little online apologia choir have absolutely nothing whatsoever to worry about, from this point foreward; and can immediately cease and desist with the daily thread spammings, hereabouts, imploring all the rest of us to "line up behind McCain now, filthy conservative rabble!" or "ObamaHillaryObama BoogaBoogaBOOGA!" or [Insert McCain Shill Talking Points of the Day HERE]... yes? Hmmmm? Right?

Because, otherwise, it's a toss-up, ultimately, as to whether you all sound more hypocritical than you do genuinely needy... or vice-versa.

"He’ll either win without conservatives, or with conservatives." Your very own words. McCain doesn't need a single, solitary blessed one of us, obviously. Massive Coolness; we'll all just go right ahead and take you at word, then... 'kay? 'Kay!

160 posted on 03/05/2008 12:07:20 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("John McCain is to conservatism what Cindy Sheehan is to the Miss Universe Pageant.")
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