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Judge orders homeschoolers into government education
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | February 29, 2008 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 03/01/2008 3:54:09 AM PST by Man50D

A California court has ruled that several children in one homeschool family must be enrolled in a public school or "legally qualified" private school, and must attend, sending ripples of shock into the nation's homeschooling advocates as the family reviews its options for appeal.

The ruling came in a case brought against Jonathan and Mary Long over the education being provided to two of their eight children. They are considering an appeal to the state Supreme Court, because they have homeschooled all of their children, the oldest now 29, because of various anti-Christian influences in California's public schools.

The decision from the 2nd Appellate Court in Los Angeles granted a special petition brought by lawyers appointed to represent the two youngest children after the family's homeschooling was brought to the attention of child advocates.

"We find no reason to strike down the Legislature's evaluation of what constitutes an adequate education scheme sufficient to promote the 'general diffusion of knowledge and intelligence,'" the court said in the case. "We agree … 'the educational program of the State of California was designed to promote the general welfare of all the people and was not designed to accommodate the personal ideas of any individual in the field of education.'"

The words echo the ideas of officials from Germany, where homeschooling has been outlawed since 1938 under a law adopted when Adolf Hitler decided he wanted the state, and no one else, to control the minds of the nation's youth.

Wolfgang Drautz, consul general for the Federal Republic of Germany, has said "school teaches not only knowledge but also social conduct, encourages dialogue among people of different beliefs and cultures, and helps students to become responsible citizens."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; education; fascism; homeschooling; homeschoolingisgood; publikskoolz
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1 posted on 03/01/2008 3:54:13 AM PST by Man50D
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To: Man50D
Meanwhile....

California exodus turns to stampede

Go figure.

2 posted on 03/01/2008 3:55:35 AM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: Man50D

I am wondering if it would be cheaper for this family to move out of the state instead of “fighting the power.”


3 posted on 03/01/2008 3:57:46 AM PST by pnh102
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To: Man50D

I’m not surprised. The NEA is extremely threatened by homeschooling.


4 posted on 03/01/2008 4:05:38 AM PST by driftdiver
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To: mewzilla
And while I mentioned it....

California lost 20,300 jobs in January

5 posted on 03/01/2008 4:07:38 AM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: Man50D
'the educational program of the State of California was designed to promote the general welfare of all the people and was not designed to accommodate the personal ideas of any individual in the field of education.'"

There will never be justice as long as judges spout lies such as this as part of their rulings. The program is NOT designed to promote the welfare of ALL people...it promotes the agenda of the Left.

6 posted on 03/01/2008 4:07:38 AM PST by highlander_UW (illegal alien is to an undocumented worker as a drug dealer is to an unlicensed pharmacist)
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To: Man50D

Resistance is futile.

You will be assimilated.


7 posted on 03/01/2008 4:10:07 AM PST by djf (I think McCain deserves a chance. After all, he is on R side!)
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To: Man50D
Liberals love to talk about how if kids go to school they won't go to prison.

How are the kids supposed to know the difference?

Wait a minute, I know. In California schools they only teach them about gay sex. In California prisons they give them the advanced course.

:-(
8 posted on 03/01/2008 4:13:13 AM PST by cgbg (Welcome To Rinopolos. Bring the _big_ shovels.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger; 2Jedismom; aberaussie; Aggie Mama; agrace; Antoninus; arbooz; bboop; bill1952; ...

ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the “other” articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. If you want on/off this list, please freepmail me. The main Homeschool Ping List by DaveLoneRanger handles the homeschool-specific articles. This can occasionally be a fairly high volume list.

The judges ruled in the case involving the Longs the family failed to demonstrate "that mother has a teaching credential such that the children can be said to be receiving an education from a credentialed tutor," and that their involvement and supervision by Sunland Christian School's independent study programs was of no value.

Nor did the family's religious beliefs matter to the court.

Their "sincerely held religious beliefs" are "not the quality of evidence that permits us to say that application of California's compulsory public school education law to them violates their First Amendment rights."

Their First Amendment rights mean nothing in the school if they were to express their unPC viewpoints, if they put something up on MySpace about the school on their own non-school time on a non-school computer.

This is a very alarming display of a power grab by an agenda driven judiciary who's way overstepped THEIR Constitutional role.

9 posted on 03/01/2008 4:15:07 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Man50D
"We agree … 'the educational program of the State of California was designed to promote the general welfare of all the people and was not designed to accommodate the personal ideas of any individual in the field of education.'"

Outright tyranny, pure and simple.

10 posted on 03/01/2008 4:15:37 AM PST by Maceman
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To: mewzilla

Sad to say NY is looking better and better.

Not because it’s getting better, but because everyone is coming down to our level.

And Schumer is actually appearing to have flashes of sanity- now and then, maybe, sometimes.


11 posted on 03/01/2008 4:20:52 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Man50D

This is the worst story about anti-homeschooers that I have seen and I am not a 100 percent proponent of homeschooling. There was no reason given except for nonsense about credidation. No grades on tests or classes were given. Are the kids idiots? Stupid? What is the 29 year old doing? That should give some indication on how they homeschooled. I am all about results. The kids who are homeschooled who are stupid should not be homeschooled because it obviously does not work for them. For kids, who are able to get the grades and do well on the state exams should be able to continue...simple as that.


12 posted on 03/01/2008 4:21:17 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: Man50D
"the educational program of the State of California was designed to promote the general welfare of all the people and was not designed to accommodate the personal ideas of any individual in the field of education."

BS. It was designed to place the general welfare into State welfare - DUMB and DUMBER.

(I could find a dozen lesson plans accommodating to child's ideas as being correct, no matter what the answer is)

13 posted on 03/01/2008 4:21:42 AM PST by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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To: cgbg

That would be funny if it weren’t so true and so sad.


14 posted on 03/01/2008 4:21:58 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
Sad to say NY is looking better and better.

Actually, it's not. Upstate's looking like a ghost town. We're bleeding people and jobs, too :(

Note to the nation: If you still wanna vote for 'Rats and/or RINOs, you can't say you weren't warned...

15 posted on 03/01/2008 4:23:30 AM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla
We're bleeding people and jobs, too :(

I plan to leave the minute my daughter graduates high school in 2009.

16 posted on 03/01/2008 4:26:42 AM PST by GiovannaNicoletta (<SO)
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To: napscoordinator

Credentials mean nothing. Both my best friend and s-i-l have teaching degrees. They both told me that there was nothing about the degree that they felt made them better qualified to teach, or that taught them to teach.

I’m easily as smart as any public school teacher. I have a 4 year degree in meteorology-which is heavy in math and science. I know that those science courses are more rigorous that the ones required for a teaching degree.

I know where I’m weak and when and where to go for supplementation.

There is no way that I am less qualified to teach my own kids that some public school teacher.

The court’s and judge’s ruling is bogus. A one on one education is always superior to classroom settings if for no other reason than the time can be taken to make sure of mastery of the material.

You also learn as you go as a parent. That mother homeschooled several other children. She knows the material by now.


17 posted on 03/01/2008 4:28:26 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: mewzilla

I know that. It’s just relatively.

At least we don’t have quite the problem with illegals that some places seem to have. It’s not Texico or Mexifornia.


18 posted on 03/01/2008 4:30:16 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Man50D
This ruling would appear to be unconstitutional, isn't the decision in Pierce v. Society of Sisters of the Holy Names of Jesus and Mary settled law, which guarantees parents the right to keep their children out of the government schools?
19 posted on 03/01/2008 4:31:15 AM PST by I_Like_Spam
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To: mewzilla; GiovannaNicoletta

I’d like to leave upon mr. mm’s retirement.

Job things are keeping us here for now. Can’t explain without risking compromising my screenname, but trust me, if it were in the cards, we’d be gone.


20 posted on 03/01/2008 4:32:10 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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