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Captured on video: The moment a wind turbine exploded in gales
Daily Mail ^ | 2/25/2008

Posted on 02/25/2008 6:12:29 AM PST by Uncledave

Follow link to see old NEG-Micon machine going kablooie.

When winds get too strong, modern machines' blades pitch out of the wind, and the rotor is braked. (The old one in the video should have been braked as well - unclear why that failed).

I respect that many here oppose wind energy, but safety concerns isn't a strong argument for that case. Let's all please recognize that accidents can and do happen in any area of the energy industry.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: energy; wind

1 posted on 02/25/2008 6:12:32 AM PST by Uncledave
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To: RedStateRocker; Dementon; eraser2005; Calpernia; DTogo; Maelstrom; Yehuda; babble-on; ...
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2 posted on 02/25/2008 6:13:01 AM PST by Uncledave
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To: Uncledave

bflv


3 posted on 02/25/2008 6:13:24 AM PST by SpinnerWebb (Islam ... If you can't join them, beat them.)
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To: Uncledave

Well here in California the environmentalist are against them because they kill birds. There is no solution that will ever please the leftist. They are all about problems not solutions.


4 posted on 02/25/2008 6:16:05 AM PST by w1andsodidwe (Jimmy Carter allowed radical Islam to get a foothold in Iran.)
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To: Uncledave

No one here “opposes” wind energy. You’re thinking of Eddie Kennedy.


5 posted on 02/25/2008 6:17:05 AM PST by subterfuge (1st choice: Hunter------2nd choice: Thompson-----3rd choice: there is no 3rd choice!)
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To: Uncledave

I support wind energy, but I oppose government distortions of the market that encourage its use. I am under no illusions that it could possibly replace fossil fuels or nuclear power as a viable way to run an industrialized economy. However, it has its uses in remote locations where power transmission is impractical, and as a backup power source when the grid fails.


6 posted on 02/25/2008 6:17:26 AM PST by coloradan (The US is becoming a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: Uncledave

That left a mark.....


7 posted on 02/25/2008 6:17:26 AM PST by egginanest ( "Never interrupt me when I'm trying to interrupt you." -Winston Churchill-)
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To: Uncledave

Pretty dramatic but as these things are not usually in any populated area I don’t see it a particularly dangerous either.

I saw on a Discovery channel program about a month ago that they are developing ones that look like a DNA string that is supposed to be able to handle any wind.


8 posted on 02/25/2008 6:18:37 AM PST by Hazcat (We won an immigration BATTLE, the WAR is not over. Be ever vigilant.)
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To: Uncledave

Well designed wind turbines are supposed to lock off at anything above 35 knots - this one obviously did not!


9 posted on 02/25/2008 6:19:45 AM PST by melsec (A Proud Aussie)
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To: Uncledave
I respect that many here oppose wind energy,

What an asinine statement. I don't know of anyone here who "opposes wind energy".

Lots of us oppose the completely artificial support it gets or wants to get from the taxpayer.

Lots of us think it's not capable of producing mainstream quantities of juice.

Does that make us "opponents" ??

10 posted on 02/25/2008 6:21:06 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: w1andsodidwe

More birds are born than there is food for. If a bird runs into an object and dies (like the two who smashed into the side of my little house last year) than other birds will live because the competition for food was eliminated. Leftists amazingly see Darwinism in everything, without understanding the facts of nature his theory sites.


11 posted on 02/25/2008 6:21:09 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Uncledave

Put me on your list, please sir.


12 posted on 02/25/2008 6:21:24 AM PST by U S Army EOD (Say Cheese.)
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To: Uncledave

With anything humans make there will be mechanical failures.


13 posted on 02/25/2008 6:21:27 AM PST by Racer1
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To: Uncledave

Thanks Uncledave. I posted this thread and the link on the Michigan (FR) board today after hearing our governor Jenny Grandtheft talk up wind turbines this morning on WJR with Paul W. Smith (the guy who occasionally fill in for Rush). Per usual he was going right along with her. I figure next she’ll be calling for a new department in the state, a Department of Candles. /sarcasm

Dangerously Incompetent BUMP!


14 posted on 02/25/2008 6:22:33 AM PST by PGalt
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To: sit-rep

Check this out!


15 posted on 02/25/2008 6:24:14 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Uncledave

Didn’t a recent episode of “House, MD” start this way?


16 posted on 02/25/2008 6:24:45 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Uncledave
I have no problem with wind turbines as energy source. I lived on a sailboat. However I do reject added taxes and costs on energy that is transfered to, and subsidizes turbine projects. I also reject using the force of law, "must buy energy from" deals that turbine ‘investors’ force on energy consumers. If the turbine energy people want to have multiple, mechanical, intermittent energy generating facilities, that may or may not, when there is or is not electrical demand, and run it as some sort of ‘we may or may not be able to give you power, at no predicable level, at no predictable time’ business. Fine. Good luck to them. Just don’t ask the rest of us, through government force, government schemes, taxes, fines, fees, permits, grants, subsidies or any other method to pay for your economically wacky enterprise.

We had a entire industry that ran on free, no polluting, wind power. Sailing ships. The got replaced because an entire look at the efficiencies and costs proved they were more expensive and less efficient. Same with power generation.

17 posted on 02/25/2008 6:24:52 AM PST by Leisler
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To: Uncledave


18 posted on 02/25/2008 6:26:26 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Izzy Dunne

I meant “oppose wind energy in its current support regime”.

better?


19 posted on 02/25/2008 6:27:07 AM PST by Uncledave
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To: Uncledave

Ping for later...


20 posted on 02/25/2008 6:27:10 AM PST by Friend_from_the_Frozen_North (If you are, as Rush would say, "A Glittering Jewel of Colossal Ignorance" don't waste my time...)
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To: Eaker

ping


21 posted on 02/25/2008 6:30:15 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Uncledave
I respect that many here oppose wind energy

Oppose? I doubt any here do. We just oppose 'this is the silver bullet of energy solution' type retoric that we know to be false. I am all for any type of energy and I am all against my taxes funding fads.
22 posted on 02/25/2008 6:32:32 AM PST by TalonDJ
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To: Uncledave
When winds get too strong, modern machines' blades pitch out of the wind, and the rotor is braked

Brake in high speed wind? I thought you said it was supposed to break in a high speed wind. < /confused engineer mode>

23 posted on 02/25/2008 6:37:46 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Rattenschadenfreude: joy at a Democrat's pain, especially Hillary's pain caused by Obama.)
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To: w1andsodidwe

Maybe that’s because they haven’t come up with a solution, that doesn’t have more cons than pros yet.


24 posted on 02/25/2008 6:38:36 AM PST by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: Uncledave

Great pix. That and the ice cap GROWING, I am just sort of getting a great laugh from.


25 posted on 02/25/2008 6:46:17 AM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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According to the article, Denmark gets about 20% of its energy from these windmills. I think that’s pretty good! We just got a windmill plant here in central Arkansas and I am pleased about its future impact on our state’s “backwards” economy.


26 posted on 02/25/2008 6:49:25 AM PST by Arkansas Toothpick
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To: Uncledave

Looks pretty dangerous to be around all the flying debris. They need to put these things in places like Cape Cod Bay to keep them from possibly harming children.


27 posted on 02/25/2008 6:49:28 AM PST by Rb ver. 2.0 (Global warming is the new Marxism.)
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Oh, but Uncle Dave, those dangerous windmills will chop up the dolphins swimming in the beautiful sea!! Alack, the horror!


28 posted on 02/25/2008 6:50:26 AM PST by Arkansas Toothpick
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To: Hazcat
I saw on a Discovery channel program about a month ago that they are developing ones that look like a DNA string that is supposed to be able to handle any wind.

I understand they can replicate themselves as well.

29 posted on 02/25/2008 6:54:27 AM PST by SlowBoat407 (Just how will wrecking the U.S. economy save the planet?)
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To: Uncledave

Thanks!


30 posted on 02/25/2008 6:56:00 AM PST by DungeonMaster (WELL I SPEAK LOUD, AND I CARRY A BIGGER STICK, AND I USE IT TOO!)
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31 posted on 02/25/2008 7:09:38 AM PST by eureka! (This primary has turned into a real depressing experience. *sigh*)
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To: w1andsodidwe
There is no solution that will ever please the leftist.

You're exaggerating - there's a solution that will please Leftists! It's called extinction. Get rid of man, no more harm for Earth! If we just all die, then things will be OK...

32 posted on 02/25/2008 7:16:39 AM PST by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: Izzy Dunne
>>I respect that many here oppose wind energy,

What an asinine statement.

Calm down Francis. People can be wrong without being 'asinine'.

33 posted on 02/25/2008 7:18:57 AM PST by Dr._Joseph_Warren
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To: eureka!

ping


34 posted on 02/25/2008 7:20:43 AM PST by Graycliff (Long haired freaky people, need not apply.)
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To: Uncledave

Wind power is so stupid and wasteful. Nuclear, dammit.


35 posted on 02/25/2008 7:22:52 AM PST by montag813
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To: Uncledave

You mean for 1.8 million dollars apiece they don’t last forever? /s


36 posted on 02/25/2008 7:38:54 AM PST by hadaclueonce (shoot low, they are riding Shetlands..)
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To: thackney
with an in-built break system

The system appeared to work as designed!

37 posted on 02/25/2008 7:42:22 AM PST by Eaker (If illegal immigrants were so great for an economy; Mexico would be building a wall to keep them in)
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To: Eaker

I believe we had a windmill issue in Pennsylvania last year. Blades flew off. The German compnay that made the thing was looking at the problem


38 posted on 02/25/2008 7:45:00 AM PST by oldironsides
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To: Uncledave
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I respect that many here oppose wind energy,
<<

A free market only respects the benefits and costs of a particular approach.

The left loves to scold the rest of us that the US consumer is not paying the “full, true, price” of oil. By this, they imply that the retail price of oil-based products must carry an open tax burden associated with the cost of the US military used to protect oil supplies.

At the very same time, the left urges all sorts of tax advantaged treatments for other forms of energy. Tax credits for solar and wind. A law for nuclear power that picks up the cost of any large-scale disaster. We even allow our own farm policy to be subverted by the whopping 51 cents per gallon subsidy for ethanol, not to mention the grants, yes, the millions, tens of millions, hundreds of millions in “grants”, each of which distorts economic decisions.

For example:

“...On January 29, Department of Energy officials announced up to $30 million in supplemental funding for the planned facility. The project includes participation from academic institutions, government and other technology providers.

The Energy Department will invest up to $114 million over four years in the biorefinery projects with the goal of making cellulosic ethanol cost-competitive in five years. Other funding recipients include Lignol Innovations, Inc.; Pacific Ethanol, Inc.; and Stora Enso, North America.

Announcing the funding, Energy Secretary Samuel Bodman said, “Advanced biofuels offer tremendous promise for helping our nation to bring about a new, cleaner, more secure and affordable energy future.”

from:
www.ens-newswire.com/ens/feb2008/2008-02-19-096.asp

So, we pay for energy twice: with the economic distortions that only increase inefficiency and the tax subsidies that are paid for in only one of three ways: taxing, inflating or borrowing.

While this is going on, government further distorts the cost and availability of fuels by making vast areas of energy supplies off limits, such as offshore drilling and ANWAR.

Let us not complete the insult by saying that since some market distortions are taking place, that excuses even more distortions.

39 posted on 02/25/2008 8:03:31 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: Uncledave

I guess we don’t need to use the oil that’s right in front of us and refine it better and burn it clean in our cars with better mileage because we can all put windmills in our cars.
That thinking has worked so well for years now. /sarc


40 posted on 02/25/2008 8:09:28 AM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: Uncledave

I wish I could see a hi-res video of this. Just before the rotor blows, a cloud of dust or smoke appears right at the front of the truck at the base. Either a piece the rotor shot out or, get ready conspiracy folks... the truck shot something up and hit the rotor.


41 posted on 02/25/2008 8:14:53 AM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Uncledave

I’m not an engineer. That said, wouldn’t curved blades in a tube (such as a jet engine) work at high speeds?

I would love to see each of our homes run independently of market prices for energy. To me, even urban buildings should be self sufficient.

We are required to spend too much money, on a monthly basis, to maintain our homes. Everyone wants in our pockets.


42 posted on 02/25/2008 8:20:26 AM PST by wizr ("Give me liberty, or give me death." - Patrick Henry)
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To: Uncledave

Why would anyone oppose wind energy? Were you being sarcastic?


43 posted on 02/25/2008 8:34:14 AM PST by BJungNan
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To: PGalt

Well she said that we would be “blown away” after she became Governor......


44 posted on 02/25/2008 9:25:44 AM PST by Mikey_1962 (Liberals want equality of outcome not opportunity.)
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To: Uncledave

Bush de schuld!


45 posted on 02/25/2008 9:28:46 AM PST by GreenAccord (Bacon Akbar!)
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To: TalonDJ

“I respect that many here oppose wind energy”

I will come to Uncledave’s defense on this one. There have been plenty of posts on Free Republic expressing opposition to alternate energy for no better reason than that some liberals like it. Uncledave and I part company when he respects those opinions. I do not.


46 posted on 02/25/2008 3:54:28 PM PST by beef (Who Killed Kennewick Man?)
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To: Uncledave
I’m OK with both solar and wind energy for small scale use - been pumping water for centuries. Also reduces demand on the commercial energy grid.
But with nuclear available (and cheap) and with improved means of refining as yet untapped petroleum, with tons of concepts for other power sources, and with a secure gag on people like Al Gore - we don’t need the huge ecological problems of wind farms and solar radiators that take up half a county in fly-over America.
47 posted on 02/25/2008 5:07:17 PM PST by norton ( There is no longer any choice)
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To: Uncledave
South Flordia is in the dark. Where is your wind power now dude?

Guess your going to say it it saving money cause when the power is out, the meter does not turn.

48 posted on 02/26/2008 12:55:13 PM PST by hadaclueonce (shoot low, they are riding Shetlands..)
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To: subterfuge

He might think I oppose wind projects because of my study that indicated 10 or 12 % of the units on many projects observed were inoperable.

Wind energy is a fact. It is not an economically viable source in the USA. It costs more than it is worth

Nuclear is the way


49 posted on 03/03/2008 6:38:45 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Never say never (there'll be a VP you'll like))
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To: bert

Is the juice worth the squeeze? Really?
Honestly, now.....


50 posted on 03/27/2008 7:18:31 PM PDT by winklerorama at gmail.com (Mike Winkler, "Wind Power...It Blows! circa 2007 self published))
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