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America's grain stocks running short (food security and export control?)
The Grand Island Independent ^
| 02/24/08
| By Robert Pore
Posted on 02/25/2008 5:08:27 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: PapaBear3625
"...tell them to grow stuff this year"That's right. Let's tell them to grow something. What should we tell them to grow? How do we make them do so? What if they ignore our demands?
To: businessprofessor
Thus, I do not see production catching up for some time if ever. That's because you're professor and not a farmer.
Overproduction will continue to be problem. The real breakthoughs in yields are coming, better fertilizers usage through breeding, better drought resistance etc.
Corn production went from 6 to 7 billion bushels in 1985 to 13 billion in 2007. It will double again in less than 10 years with the current incentive to produce. Wheat, soybeans, name the crop, give the farmers the incentive that corn has to grow more, and you'll see the flood of crops continue.
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posted on
02/25/2008 7:27:08 AM PST
by
Balding_Eagle
(If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
To: TigerLikesRooster
That’s what happens when you subsidize the use crops for fuel instead of food.
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posted on
02/25/2008 7:27:21 AM PST
by
Uncle Miltie
(New York Times Endorsed!!!)
To: snowrip
McCain supports increasing US ethanol productionUmmm, no, he doesn't. He actually campaigned against farm subsidies for ethanol in Iowa - a big reason of why he did so poorly in that state.
To: paleorite
"The answer is keep the grain at home; restrict exports." Farmers are well armed and won't like your hijacking of their crops.
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posted on
02/25/2008 7:28:48 AM PST
by
Uncle Miltie
(New York Times Endorsed!!!)
To: JustaDumbBlonde
What I said was "(2)
any acreage were paying farmers NOT to grow on, tell them to grow stuff this year"
Translated into simpler English: this year, if we are paying farmers to NOT grow crops, then eliminate those payments. The farmers may choose to grow crops and sell them, in order to make money to make up for the eliminated farm subsidies
To: PapaBear3625
Two solutions: (1) suspend ethanol mandates for a few months, let the corn go into feed rather than ethanol, and (2) any acreage were paying farmers NOT to grow on, tell them to grow stuff this year Bravo! Off with their heads.
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posted on
02/25/2008 7:29:30 AM PST
by
Balding_Eagle
(If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
To: JustaDumbBlonde
That's right. Let's tell them to grow something. What should we tell them to grow? How do we make them do so? What if they ignore our demands?What's ironic about many of the replies, is that they had to stop eating their big breakfast to type!
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posted on
02/25/2008 7:31:47 AM PST
by
Balding_Eagle
(If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
To: PapaBear3625
this year, if we are paying farmers to NOT grow crops, then eliminate those payments. The farmers may choose to grow crops and sell them, in order to make money to make up for the eliminated farm subsidies The final program isn't in place yet, but from the farmers I've talked to, your wish has been granted.
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posted on
02/25/2008 7:34:01 AM PST
by
Balding_Eagle
(If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
To: paleorite
I remember 1973. We lost our business, thanks to the prime rate rising to almost 20%. All our customers went out of business.
Carolyn
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posted on
02/25/2008 7:36:19 AM PST
by
CDHart
("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
To: 1rudeboy
>>Da, comrade. The kulaks are enemies of the State.
The majority of American Kulaks (small family farmers) were driven out of business decades ago.
Last time we visited what’s left of my wife’s family farm in SD, I was struck by the presence of “BP” signs on gas stations that had previously been under American control. Coincidental to this is the explosion of gambling facilities in the state. It seems there were slot machines available at every exit.
Tyranny of the appetite.
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posted on
02/25/2008 7:43:28 AM PST
by
Etoo
(I regret that I have but one screen name to sacrifice for my country.)
To: Balding_Eagle
"What's ironic about many of the replies, is that they had to stop eating their big breakfast to type!I have a solution for all of these folks with nothing but contempt for farmers and ranchers. They should begin a complete and total boycott of every product produced by farmers and ranchers. Who needs those greedy so-and-so's anyway?
No more trips to the grocery store. Tonight for supper, go out in back of your home. Hunt and gather. Get something out of the garden. It's easy!
To: JustaDumbBlonde
Supporting American Farmers and Ranchers in getting a fair price for their products - whilst reducing dependence upon foreign oil is one thing.
Gouging American consumers so Chinese communists can purchase and drive automobiles for the profit of globalist carpetbaggers is quite another.
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posted on
02/25/2008 7:59:37 AM PST
by
Etoo
(I regret that I have but one screen name to sacrifice for my country.)
To: 1rudeboy
"free traders" say "free trade" lowers prices for Americans, er 'consumers'(we don't want to discriminate against the illegals who've entered the country to take advantage of our "free trade" open borders).
And now we have nice, low grain prices. LOL
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posted on
02/25/2008 8:00:36 AM PST
by
hedgetrimmer
(I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
To: hedgetrimmer
"free traders" say "free trade" lowers prices for Americans, er 'consumers'Protectionists and other economic know nothings think that raising tariffs, taxes and restrictions will lower prices.
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posted on
02/25/2008 8:08:37 AM PST
by
Toddsterpatriot
(Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
To: Western Phil
True
Our biggest pricing issues in Ag is typically that everything is so over produced we cant make ends meet.
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posted on
02/25/2008 8:13:51 AM PST
by
NoLibZone
(If the Clinton years were so great for the libs why is Obama doing so well?)
To: TigerLikesRooster
predictions, predictions, predictions
with failure to predict - recognize
that conditions are not static
to the extent that shortages produce higher prices, they also induce others, here and abroad, to become producers
in the long run there is no calamity waiting, only new producers and new market
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posted on
02/25/2008 8:22:21 AM PST
by
Wuli
To: Toddsterpatriot
First “Big Oil,” now “Big Food.” The government must save us! Where can we find an articulate, black man to save us from the market?
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posted on
02/25/2008 8:32:21 AM PST
by
1rudeboy
To: Etoo
If you feel you are being gouged, don’t buy. Provide food and other necessities yourself. If the system is flawed, work toward repairing it, don’t bite the hand that feeds you.
To: paleorite
It wasn't too long ago that Hugo Chavez prevented the dairy farmers from selling milk to foreign cheese producers and slapped price controls on domestic dairy prices. The farmers responded by sending the dairy cows to market for meat. They couldn't make a profit with the price controls and their profitable foreign market was denied.
Be careful what you wish for...you might get it. The grain farmers have worked hard to find markets for their excess production.
The government is responsible for skewing the corn market by subsidizing ethanol production. Perhaps that needs some attention/curtailment.
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posted on
02/25/2008 9:03:51 AM PST
by
Myrddin
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