America's grain stocks running short (food security and export control?)

The Grand Island Independent ^ | 02/24/08 | By Robert Pore

[Toddsterpatriot]

Now flesh it our a bit.

You need me to flesh out how supply and demand work? LOL!

[Balding_Eagle]

Have you even read my posts? Why would you ask something so stupid?

Remember that Russian crop export thing I mentioned earlier? It is obvious to anyone but an ill mannered dumbkuff that I’ve actually lived supply and demand.

I think even you realize that your posts show you don’t know shit about farming, the effect of price controls, or how to modify what we have now to get the governement out while maintaining our food supply.

[Toddsterpatriot]

Have you even read my posts?

Yes.

Why would you ask something so stupid?

Maybe you can explain what I need to flesh out?

Remember that Russian crop export thing I mentioned earlier?

Yes. Government interference cost you money. Kinda like the farm programs you were in cost me money.

I think even you realize that your posts show you don’t know shit about farming,

Oh, I have to be an expert on farming before I can criticize farm programs which distort markets.

the effect of price controls

They distort market signals and lead to overproduction, price crashes, reduction in production, price spikes, etc, etc, etc.

[am452]

If they can make money at it, great. If they can't, great. If they make money, they should expand production. If they can't make money, they should reduce their production or go out of business.

Hey don't protect the Amnerican farmer. We can then buy our food from other countries who might make it cheaper. LOL. So then we can rely on other countries for our food production. I'll gladly pay a little more for food knowing we have safe, reliable and ready supply at all times from our own American farmers.

[Toddsterpatriot]

Hey don't protect the Amnerican farmer.

Hey, don't hand my tax dollars to the American farmer.

We can then buy our food from other countries who might make it cheaper. LOL.

If that's what you want to do, go for it.

I'll gladly pay a little more for food knowing we have safe, reliable and ready supply at all times from our own American farmers.

If that's what you want to do, go for it.

You really shouldn't support big government welfare programs. People might think you're not really a conservative.

[1rudeboy]

I'll gladly pay a little more for food knowing we have safe, reliable and ready supply at all times from our own American farmers.

What's stopping you now?

[1rudeboy]

I think that was Milton Friedman’s,

[Toddsterpatriot]

Was my path too complicated for you?

Get the government out of it. Prices will rise and fall according to supply and demand. Sound good to you?

Now flesh it our a bit.

Which of my 4 sentences do I need to flesh out?

[Balding_Eagle]

As I pointed out upthread, your posts are those of someone who doesn’t know jack shit about farming, the agricultural situation, or solutions to the problems associated with our food production systems.

You cover your demonstrated ignorance by arguing in circles, never acknowledging that you’ve raised, and have received an answer to the same question, over and over.

The Bible has specific cautions against being involved in such discussions. I’m done.

[Toddsterpatriot]

I know welfare doesn't work. Even for farmers who claim to be conservative.

Run away. LOL!

[SunkenCiv]

Note: this topic is from 2/25/2008 . Summer's gotten a late start here, mostly I see soybean in the area fields. Gonna be a long, hot, and possibly wet summer. Ah well. Thanks TigerLikesRooster.

[SunkenCiv]

Lower cost of fuel means more ethanol, period. Not what you may have thought...

It's the Obamacare, stupid! One-half gallon of oil at the old recent high prices, in the form of pesticides per bushel of corn, would cost $2 to $3 per bushel. If this were true -- and it clearly isn't -- it should be enough to illustrate to literally anyone that the price of petroleum is quite literally the ONLY thing driving corn prices. And that idiotic piece of agitprop to the right -- from a hydrogen "energy" advocacy site -- also shows the guy in the encounter suit spraying chemical fertilizer, a sight that I've never been privileged to see, what with me *growing up on a farm*. The Bum Rap on Biofuels [2008] Campaign to vilify ethanol revealed [2008] Oil Price Pressure Driving Global Switch to Biofuels [2006]

[Carry_Okie]

Ethanol.

[Carry_Okie]

Every great civilization that has abused its topsoil has crashed. We’re using natural gas to convert into into fuel, an apocalyptically stupid idea. Even now, when we clearly have the capacity to produce sufficient gasoline to be energy independent for over a century, we go on as if building our energy policy around the Iowa caucuses is at all sane.