CAN A CONSERVATIVE JUMP IN RACE AS AN INDEPENDENT (Vanity)

Me | 02/25/08 | Me

[MarineMom613]

If Ralph Nader can jump in this late in the game Why can't a Fred or Rudy jump in on another line just to get on the ballot. If there are better choices name them. I am just curious. Everyone is unhappy with McQwain. Just asking. Don't flame me for mentioning Rudy. I just used him as an example. If we have a terror threat right before the elections, both of them would be alot better choice than McQ.

[MarineMom613]

I am naive about this stuff. Just lookin for an answer/alternative. Please dont' go off on me. This is an innocent question.

[SlapHappyPappy]

Sure they can. But, just like Nader, they wouldn’t win.

[Jet Jaguar]

Sure, if they have the money. They will get none from the RNC.

Romney and Thompson have enough of their own money, and some support. But, both have thrown support to McCain.

[gridlock]

It is hard to see how an upstart campaign by a Conservative independend could have any other effect but hurting John McCain and electing the Democrat in November.

Now, there are a lot of folks here at FR who seem to think that is a good idea. I am not one of them.

[jalisco555]

Now, there are a lot of folks here at FR who seem to think that is a good idea. I am not one of them.

Agree completely. The last thing we need is a repeat of 1992.

[RangerM]

The last thing we need is a repeat of 1992.

As it is, we're looking at a repeat of 2000. We just need Buchanan in there; but Lou Dobbs would make a suitable substitute.

[Truth29]

Somebody can always mount a write-in campaign, but formally getting on the ballot requires meeting a wide variety of various state laws, qualification requirements, and timeframes; not to mention that the chance of anyone on the conservative side running as an insurgent candidate at this stage would have zero chance of winning.

[beachdweller]

No we don’t need a candidate that will drain away ten percent of the conservative vote. What we need is a non-McCain, non-
Barak/Hillary vote that can win. I’m not sure that will happen, but if it does I’m on board.

[not2worry]

Don’t count Squirrely Huckabee with Soro’s support.

He’d probably say he got the money from a winning lottery ticket purchased at the Quick Trip in Hope.

[kindred]

This would certainly be an alternative, a conservative running for President would be wonderful indeed.
Liberal lite is such a disappointment and being railroaded the the NE liberal rinos with NE liberal rino pre picked candidates is wrong indeed, not to mention crossover voting of liberals and moderates for McCain .
A conservative running for President would help soothe the rage of the adamant conservative against the socialist power brokers of the GOP indeed!

[kindred]

[Agree completely. The last thing we need is a repeat of 1992.]

This same talk went on in 1992 then and the GOP tried to elect a liberal lite then. History does indeed repeat itself as people like to think things will change for the better under liberal lite, and it just won’t happen even if McCain is elected.

[beachdweller]

Eff Huckabwee, but I would love some Hunter, but I guess he’s not “acceptable” unfortunately.

[leprechaun9]

MY UNDERSTANDING

In NJ, anyone seeking to run for election (any office) as an Independent, Red, Green, Blue, or Black, has the same filing deadline as all other parties, i.e., R or D.

They will not have to run in a Primary, unless the Party they are running under is a registered Party with the NJ Secretary of State.

However their filing of intent to run in the actual Election in November, must be done by the same date as regular Party candidates. For NJ, that date is (I think) 60 days prior to the Regular Primary which will be held in June. The recent Presidential Primary (at a cost to the taxpayers of ~$10M to $15M) was for the benefit of the MSM to have a Super Primary Day of many states. The Primary for all other offices (Local, County, State and Congressional) will be in June.

[bluedad]

If Rudy or Fred didn’t have the fight in them to go through the primary, why would you image they’d work any harder in the general election? I’m disappointed in both of them for dropping out so soon and not making this primary more of a fight and less of a rollover for McCain.
It’d be nice to have more than two parties to choose from, but I don’t see it happening with any success any time soon.

[Polybius]

If Ralph Nader can jump in this late in the game Why can't a Fred or Rudy jump in on another line just to get on the ballot.

Sure they can. But, just like Nader, they wouldn’t win.

And, just like Nader, they would guarantee that the candidate that is most unlike them will get the White House.

In the 2000 Presidential election, Ralph Nader got 97,000 votes in Florida, many times more votes than the margin by which Bush won in Florida. That was the vote difference that gave Florida and the Electoral College and the White House to Bush instead of Gore.

You want to give the White House to a man that has promised to bug out of Iraq leaving the region that contains 70% of the World's known oil reserves in the military control of suicidal Islamist Iranian mullas who are seeking nuclear weapons and ICBM's to deliver them to U.S. soil so they can be guaranteed an Eternity in Paradise because you think John McCain is not "conservative" enough or you just don't like him.

Unlike you or the Islamist nutjobs, neither Fred nor Rudy nor Mitt are suicidal.

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Obama 13 months ago:

Published Jan. 30, 2007 ...... Obama wants troops home by spring ’08 ……. Illinois senator, presidential candidate introduces bill to force redeployment

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Hillary 13 months ago:

Published January 17, 2007 ........ Hillary Clinton opposes Iraq troops 'surge'

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McCain 14 months ago:

Published December 27, 2006 ..... Novak: McCain's 'aggressive surge' stance backfiring ........ conservative columnist Robert Novak suggests that Sen. John McCain's (R-AZ) "aggressive" push for a U.S. troop expansion -- or "surge" -- in Iraq may be costing the top 2008 GOP contender in the polls, especially when matched against another presumed front-runner, Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY). "The decline in the polls of [McCain], as measured against [Clinton], reflects more than declining Republican popularity ......... "It connotes public disenchantment with McCain's aggressive advocacy of a 'surge' of up to 30,000 additional U.S. troops to Iraq

"I understand the polls show only 18 percent of the American people support my position. But I have to do what's right, what I believe is right and what my experience and knowledge and background tells me is the right thing to do in order to save this situation in Iraq ... In war, my dear friends, there's no such thing as compromise. You either win or you lose." - Sen. John McCain's reaction to the Iraq Study Group Report, 2006

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Three months ago in Iraq:

Troop Surge, Iraqis’ Anger Puts al Qaeda ‘On the Run’

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[SlapHappyPappy]

Ummmm, where did I support doing anything to guarantee an Obama win?

[Jabba the Nutt]

It doesn't make sense for an unsuccessful primary candidate to jump in, it would have to be someone new. If there was ever a year ripe for a third candidate from the center-right, this is it.

My problem is that I can't think of any potential candidates, who could really excite the base and run a great campaign.

[Polybius]

Ummmm, where did I support doing anything to guarantee an Obama win?

"Upon further review, the challenge is upheld and the ruling on the field is overturned. The replay demonstrates that the poster did NOT advocate such actions but only asked why others would not take it."

"The reply is now changed to, "Unlike the Islamist nutjobs, neither Fred nor Rudy nor Mitt are suicidal.'"

"First down!"

[Always Right]

In 2000, Nader gave Bush the election over Gore. Eventhough Nader got only 1% of the vote, it was more than enough to help Bush win Florida.

[RangerM]

Buchanan got a necessary ~3000 in the right place in Florida. That’s all you need.

At this point, I’m not totally sure I really care anyway.

Maybe you feel the same?