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Was the underlying mental derangement made worse by the Prozac?
1 posted on 02/20/2008 2:37:28 PM PST by dynachrome
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To: dynachrome

I don’t know, but the article says he STOPPED taking it. It may have been the withdrawal of it toppling his chemistry, especially if he didn’t withdraw properly.

Either way, and regardless of the mechanism behind it, he still murdered several people and in my opinion, he should face the music. He could just as easlily called a shrink for help for feeling out of control. He chose not to do that.


2 posted on 02/20/2008 2:42:00 PM PST by PrairieLady2
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To: dynachrome
Was the underlying mental derangement made worse by the Prozac?

I asked that question last week on the original thread to this story. It seems to me more than a few such incidents have been tied to the perp going off his meds.

4 posted on 02/20/2008 2:44:02 PM PST by bcsco (To heck with a third party. We need a second one....)
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To: dynachrome
Hard to say. As you know, correlation is not causation.

One other theory is that the antidepressants lift the depressive fog enough for a suicidal person to take action for the first time. People who are severely depressed are often immobile and can't muster the energy to do much of anything - which may in part be a defense mechanism. Getting off the drugs may allow the homicidal/suicidal thoughts to resurface while there's still enough energy to accomplish the deed.

5 posted on 02/20/2008 2:44:46 PM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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>>Was the underlying mental derangement made worse by the Prozac?<<

After the article saying a new story analisys showed 2000 stories of about murder that mentioned Prozac I checked the Google news archive.

There are indeed 2100 stories that mention prozac and murder but that’s out of 2 million stories about murder.


7 posted on 02/20/2008 2:45:58 PM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: dynachrome

Some people cannot properly metabolize SSRIs. Statistically, we can see it is a miniscule subset of the total population.


8 posted on 02/20/2008 2:46:00 PM PST by Petronski (Nice job, Hillary. Now go home and get your shine box.)
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To: dynachrome
Tens of millions of people have taken them . . .

So, what's the percentage of those 10's of millions who commit these horrific acts of violence? Is it possible that the mental illness is the reason for his actions, and not the medication? As to the question of whether Prozac made his mental illness worse, it would not seem so given the information in the article. But, who knows for sure. Different people have different reactions from the same medications others take. I guess I'd want to know whether any recent incidents might have set him off - such as any arguments with friends or family, a loss of some type, a poor grade in a course or on an assignment, someone rejecting him, etc, etc. Too many variables in these cases to know sometimes what the reasons are.

12 posted on 02/20/2008 2:51:56 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier home after 15 months in the Triangle of death)
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To: dynachrome

I take Prozac. There are countless warnings about stopping your medication without consulting your doctor. Prozac like the others mentioned, are seratonin uptake inhibitors. If you suddenly stop taking it, your seratonin levels will gradually drop and you again become subject to the chemical imbalance which caused your depression. The result can be catastrophic...as you can see.


13 posted on 02/20/2008 2:53:45 PM PST by Sudetenland (McQueeg or Obama? McQueeg or Obama? Emotionally Unstable or Socialist? Decisions decisions!)
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we report, you decide:

www.drugawareness.org


14 posted on 02/20/2008 2:54:16 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB (Conservatives are to McCain what Charlie Brown is to Lucy.)
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To: dynachrome

People taking Prozac, Paxil, and Zoloft have clinical depression in the first place. It seems odd to blame the violent or suicidal tendencies on the medicine.


23 posted on 02/20/2008 3:25:08 PM PST by popdonnelly (Get Reid. Salazar, and Harkin out of the Senate.)
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To: dynachrome

Somehow the NYT missed these details:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1973627/posts


26 posted on 02/20/2008 3:38:11 PM PST by Petronski (Nice job, Hillary. Now go home and get your shine box.)
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To: dynachrome
Maybe the underlying derangement was made worse by the influence of NIU professors such as Marc D. Falkoff

NIU Law Professor to Participate in Nationwide Teach-In on Guantanamo Bay Professor Marc D. Falkoff, counsel for 17 Yemeni men at Guantánamo Bay,to read poetry written by Guantánamo Bay detainees September 27, 2006

Falkoff will return to NIU ... to present a lecture at 4 p.m. in Altgeld Room 100. He will share his personal experiences as counsel for 17 Yemeni men unlawfully detained at Guantánamo Bay and read more of the detainees’ poetry.

As one of the first American citizens to travel to the camp and meet directly with the detainees, Falkoff has heard firsthand their stories of torture, abuse, disrespect, and other “disturbing” incidents. Since his first visit in November 2004, he has returned to the camp on eight occasions. During these visits, Falkoff took a special interest in the poetry written by detainees and was able to collect the “declassified” poems, which will be published in a volume by the University of Iowa Press.

The teach-in will explore two overriding themes: 1) whether Guantánamo can exist in a democracy committed to the rule of law, and 2) whether and how various communities should respond to this unprecedented governmental action. Specific issues to be addressed include not only a review of the court cases, but also topics relating to medical care, torture, abuse, and religious insults to the detainees.


29 posted on 02/22/2008 7:17:37 AM PST by syriacus (Mrs. Obama's Little Book of Etiquette says it's NOW acceptable to be REALLY proud of being American.)
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