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Video: Rioting breaks out on Kosovo-Serbia border

Posted on 02/20/2008 2:56:21 AM PST by kronos77

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jV_LnXaQ8A


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: islam; kla; kosovo; serbia; terror

1 posted on 02/20/2008 2:56:23 AM PST by kronos77
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To: joan; Smartass; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; Incorrigible; DTA; ma bell; ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jV_LnXaQ8A


2 posted on 02/20/2008 2:57:44 AM PST by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: All

ON THE INTERNET:

http://www.serbianna.com


3 posted on 02/20/2008 3:07:24 AM PST by Cindy
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To: All

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&tab=wn&ned=us&q=Kosovo&ie=UTF-8&scoring=n

Google - News: “KOSOVO”


4 posted on 02/20/2008 3:11:53 AM PST by Cindy
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To: kronos77

Outrageous that the Bush administration supports this Islamic takeover of a part of Serbia. It’s the same as allowing Hispanics and La Raza to have their own independent nation of ‘Aztlan’.


5 posted on 02/20/2008 3:18:16 AM PST by Godebert
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http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/020007.php
(AP)

February 18, 2008
“Thousands of Kosovars chant ‘KLA! KLA!’”

#

stepping back in time...

http://www.balkan-archive.org.yu/kosovo_crisis/html/wt-0504.html

Washington Times 5/4/99
“KLA rebels train in terrorist camps”

By Jerry Seper
THE WASHINGTON TIMES


6 posted on 02/20/2008 3:23:21 AM PST by Cindy
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To: kronos77
Must be the peaceful Muslims.
7 posted on 02/20/2008 3:24:45 AM PST by Sprite518
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To: Godebert

“Outrageous that the Bush administration supports this Islamic takeover of a part of Serbia. It’s the same as allowing Hispanics and La Raza to have their own independent nation of ‘Aztlan’”

This needs repeating.


8 posted on 02/20/2008 3:47:45 AM PST by oiler (Reagan Republicans Unite!!!!! "Not gonna forget. Not gonna forgive." Hunter/Tancredo 2012)
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To: kronos77
So the video concludes stating that forces are ramping up along the border for a clash that seems inevitable. Looks like Bush/Clinton/McCain will be more concerned with enforcing an artificially created international border then they will be about enforcing the established US southern border. If this whole situation was not so ludicrous, the irony would be overwhelming.
9 posted on 02/20/2008 3:48:14 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: oiler
"“Outrageous that the Bush administration supports this Islamic takeover of a part of Serbia. It’s the same as allowing Hispanics and La Raza to have their own independent nation of ‘Aztlan’”

This needs repeating."

It sure does. I never thought I'd agree with the Russians, but on this one I do.

10 posted on 02/20/2008 3:50:09 AM PST by Think free or die
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To: Think free or die
I never thought I'd agree with the Russians, but on this one I do.

The scary about the whole situation is Poland is the only decent military standing between Russia and the White Cliffs of Dover. The Rino/Dino Globalists are really overplaying their hands here.

11 posted on 02/20/2008 3:53:52 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: Godebert

He’s in favor of the La Raza invasion and takeover too.


12 posted on 02/20/2008 4:10:53 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (And close the damned borders!)
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To: Godebert

Makes perfect sense to me, given his past behavior.


13 posted on 02/20/2008 4:20:12 AM PST by thecabal
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To: Sprite518

1. The riots were started by Serbians, not Albanians.

2. The Serbians do not like America.

But never mind the facts, let’s just report like the Albanians are causing all the problems and the Serbians are the victims. If the Serbians would have not been so heavy-handed 9 years ago in dealing with the Albanians, NATO would have never gone in and taken control and Kosovo’s independence would not be an issue today. The Serbians made their own bed on this issue (before I get flamed, I don’t think NATO should be there).


14 posted on 02/20/2008 6:32:01 AM PST by Skenderbej
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To: Godebert
So, I guess this is the New World Order that Bush Sr. was talking about. Rules apply to some not all. The hypocrisy is very noticeable by those who know the real law.

This is an example of how men of all governments MUST not be trusted. How the UN , NATO and EU are just political tools for the mighty to exercises their will with impunity.

Folks, I know it sounds corny to some but trust in America and what the founders intended. This country was never designed to be an empire, policeman of the world or anything like that. This is not manifest destiny on a global scale.

This is global tyranny by imperialists who seek to expand their own selfish interests that are cloaked by words like democracy, freedom, and independence. Hatred is sown by the same imperialists for people who have not done the things they have been accused of doing even according to their own UN reports. Even according to the international court but that doesn’t matter.

This is a sad day for the Serbian people who are being exterminated and cleansed from their own lands by the those who pretend to be acting on behalf of freedom and equality. The fact is, those who have taken Kosovo wouldn’t know equality of it kicked them in the arse. So for whom then was this part of Serbia stolen for? Drug runners. Jihadists. For the same kind of Jihadists that brought down the towers in New York. and for those imperial powers who seek to secure their energy and strategic interests on the backs of others. Nothing has changed. Nothing has become more civilized.

Hitler said years ago that in order to control the Balkans you must get rid of the Balkan watchdog. Well, with Germany in front they finished his work. I’m sure he is looking up smiling at the good work they have done in finishing his job.

Folks, you better brace yourself for another 100 years of war when McCain gets in. You’re paying for it.

15 posted on 02/20/2008 7:05:28 AM PST by SQUID
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To: Skenderbej
If the Serbians would have not been so heavy-handed 9 years ago in dealing with the Albanians, NATO would have never gone in and taken control and Kosovo's independence would not be an issue today.

Your logic is flawed. The Serbs were heavy handed, but Albanians in Kosovo were going to separate no matter what. All Slobo did was postpone the inevitable and all NATO did was bomb the Chinese embassy.

16 posted on 02/20/2008 7:10:14 AM PST by palmer
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To: Cindy; kronos77; Bokababe; FormerLib; DTA; Kolokotronis

Here’s another GREAT news source, from the Serbian side:

http://www.byzantinesacredart.com/blog/

KOSOVO IS SERBIA!!!!


17 posted on 02/20/2008 7:33:36 AM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: Skenderbej
“2. The Serbians do not like America.”

Duh... Captain Obvious to the rescue! I wouldn’t like America either if they bombed my country and helped Muslims capture a large chunk of it. America is on the side of evil in this conflict.

18 posted on 02/20/2008 7:46:32 AM PST by monday
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To: Skenderbej
Why do you use the Turkish Muslim derived spelling for George Kastrioti “Skanderbeg”?
19 posted on 02/20/2008 8:00:55 AM PST by F-117A (Mr. Bush, have someone read UN Resolution 1244 to you!!!)
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To: Skenderbej
Yes, that's why we were busy saving US airmen in WWII while you were occupied with building Nazi SS Divisions.

Let's not let facts stand in the way.

20 posted on 02/20/2008 8:13:51 AM PST by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: Skenderbej
1. The riots were started by Serbians, not Albanians.

Of course they were...and there ought to be MORE riots. Their COUNRTY has been stolen from them!

2. The Serbians do not like America.

And as an American, I cannot blame them for not liking America. What have we done for the Serbs? We bombed them (instead of the true enemy, the albanians) whle they were fighting a civil war against terrorists who have been trying to take over the heartland of their country for well over a century. We sat by and allowed those disgusting terrorists to destroy ancient sacred churches and monasteries in the years after the bombings. We have completely disregarded international law by recognizing the illegal declaration of independence by the terrorist Thaci. Why should they "like" us?

But never mind the facts, let’s just report like the Albanians are causing all the problems and the Serbians are the victims. If the Serbians would have not been so heavy-handed 9 years ago in dealing with the Albanians, NATO would have never gone in and taken control and Kosovo’s independence would not be an issue today. The Serbians made their own bed on this issue (before I get flamed, I don’t think NATO should be there).

The Serbs were fighting a war within their own borders against a thug terrorist group the UCK (remember it was even on the US terrorist group list until Albright got Clinton to remove it because of her pathological & deep-rooted hatred of anything Serbian) that was doing everything it could to violently take over Kos-Met. The war came about only AFTER the KLA-terrorists had been attacking Serbs and other non-albanians for a long time. The Serbs finally decided enough was enough and went in to protect their country from these thugs (who had trained in bin Laden camps in Afghanistan btw). Eventually the KLA staged the Racack "massacre" and that was the set-up for Clinton getting the US and NATO involved (to cover his sorry butt which was dealing with the Lewisky scandal and impeachment at the time!!).

21 posted on 02/20/2008 8:31:30 AM PST by blinachka (Vechnaya Pamyat Daddy... xoxo)
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To: Godebert
Outrageous that the Bush administration supports this Islamic takeover of a part of Serbia. It’s the same as allowing Hispanics and La Raza to have their own independent nation of ‘Aztlan’.

What, you think that's not going to happen the way things are going now, especially if McAmnesty gets his way?

22 posted on 02/20/2008 8:54:07 AM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: blinachka
And as an American, I cannot blame them for not liking America. What have we done for the Serbs? We bombed them (instead of the true enemy, the albanians) whle they were fighting a civil war against terrorists who have been trying to take over the heartland of their country for well over a century. We sat by and allowed those disgusting terrorists to destroy ancient sacred churches and monasteries in the years after the bombings. We have completely disregarded international law by recognizing the illegal declaration of independence by the terrorist Thaci. Why should they "like" us?

But according to the neocons, none of this is "our fault," right?

23 posted on 02/20/2008 8:55:04 AM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: mvpel
But according to the neocons, none of this is "our fault," right?

Not being a "neocon", I can't tell what their reasoning is. I really do-not-know. I am flabbergasted by all of this simply because it just makes no sense to support these thugs(the UCK and their supporters). None at all.

This goes beyone "neocon" and "liberal" ideologies. I don't believe that has nothing to do with it actually. I think a lot of it is willful ignorance due to the $$$ that comes for the powerful and large albanian Lobby. The Libs mostly supported the bombings and the UCK and the "neocons" mostly...just continued it...and contiued to support (the support for) the terrorist UCK - and are more than happy to accept the (blood)money from the albanian Lobby!!

24 posted on 02/20/2008 9:12:53 AM PST by blinachka (Vechnaya Pamyat Daddy... xoxo)
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To: blinachka

Oh, I’m just being sour about how Ron Paul was treated on Free Republic and elsewhere when he pointed out the obvious fact that foreign policy decisions have consequences down the road, just as you’ve pointed out here.


25 posted on 02/20/2008 9:18:07 AM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: SQUID; kronos77

Kosovo’s “Independence”

http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php?/site/article/4515/


26 posted on 02/20/2008 9:41:35 AM PST by Dragonfly
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To: Skenderbej

“(before I get flamed, I don’t think NATO should be there)”

Indeed. This is a European (EU) problem. Instability in the Balkans effects them (you?) far more than us. Let Europeans put on the uniforms and deal with things - In the Balkans and with Russia. After all, these are first-world countries with more people and a larger collective economy than the US. If Europeans want to play great power games, let them end their vacation from history and play without using my kids as their pawns. Unfortunitely, like Dufar, Afghanistan, Congo, & Chad, the EU is long on talk, but short on resources/actions when it comes to these situations.


27 posted on 02/20/2008 9:46:46 AM PST by Owl558 (Pardon my spelling)
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To: oiler

And repeated many times! This is a real threat here..


28 posted on 02/20/2008 10:27:02 AM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Think free or die

That is my thinking as well, who would have thought that Russia would provide leadership for that the rest of the world should follow.


29 posted on 02/20/2008 10:49:16 AM PST by Dmitry Vukicevich (Pray for the Serbs because even Bush believes the idiocy.)
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To: mvpel

I agree, foreign policy decision no doubt have consequences down the road....but that doesn’t mean you ignore it and don’t do anything. In the case of Kosovo, we just happen to be on the wrong side. We SHOULD have bombed the albanians and helped the Serbs keep their country together.


30 posted on 02/20/2008 11:02:33 AM PST by blinachka (Vechnaya Pamyat Daddy... xoxo)
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To: Skenderbej

You’re right, if only the Serbs would have learned to place nice-nice with the Jihadists who were raping and killing their civilians and just handed over a portion of their nation without any qualms!

In the words of Freeper Godebert: “Outrageous that the Bush administration supports this Islamic takeover of a part of Serbia. It’s the same as allowing Hispanics and La Raza to have their own independent nation of ‘Aztlan’.”


31 posted on 02/20/2008 2:33:27 PM PST by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: kronos77

Well, that took longer than I expected.


32 posted on 02/20/2008 2:57:59 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: F-117A; montyspython

Google Skenderbeg and you will understand why I use his name; the fight of his day is the same fight of our day. It’s funny that Gjergj Kastriot, a Catholic Albanian, is known by his Turkish military title. It’s also funny that he used his training by the Turks against them. Maybe we need more politicians and military leaders like him.

Why do Freepers refuse to separate religion from nationality? The Serbs are just as guilty as the Albanians and there are Serbs who are mohamedans just as there are Albanians who are Christian. To the Albanians, this is not a religious issue at root, it is a national/ethnic issue. There are muhamedan zealots (indoctrinated abroad) who use the situation to their advantage, but this extremist view is not held by the generally secular public. If I find another non-native Serb/Alb Freeper who has spent more years working inside of Serbia/Albania and interacting directly with the population as I have, then I will be more willing to discuss the merits of the religion/nationalism issue. Until then, we will only get ethnic bias and BBC history on this board.

I am finding that in the Freep world there is only one opinion-the one that comes from the MSM. If you do not agree with the popular opinion, then instead of debate, you get accused of being a Nazi or a blind nationalist for X country. I am probably the only person who thinks the Serbians share blame with the Albanians over the Kosovo issue.

I know what the Albanians do in their spare time, and I don’t defend them. If I had more power in ‘99, I would have let the two ethic groups fight to the death. All the Kosovar Albanians would have fled to Albania (which many did), and Kosovo would now be 100% Serbian. I have no doubt of that. I also believe the fighting will restart as soon as NATO withdraws, which is why NATO is still there 9 years later. The choice to interrupt was wrong, but now we will have to live with that choice.

I am not an Albanian, btw, nor do I have Albanian ancestry nor do I keep friendly ties with Albanian nationals.


33 posted on 02/20/2008 3:06:43 PM PST by Skenderbej
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To: Skenderbej
Google Skenderbeg and you will understand why I use his name

I understand the history of Skanderbeg. I was just curious why you adopted the Turkish variant.

The name, Skanderbeg (pronounced "skander bei") has the following explanation: The name which can also be written "Skenderbeu" is the Albanian way of writing the Greek name Alexandros (Skender or Skander from Turkish and Arab "Iskander") and the Turkish Bey (Lord or prince).

the fight of his day is the same fight of our day.

What do you understand that fight to be?

34 posted on 02/20/2008 4:35:37 PM PST by F-117A (Mr. Bush, have someone read UN Resolution 1244 to you!!!)
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To: Godebert

The reconquista of the Southwest is going to be Kosovo cubed, on steroids.


35 posted on 02/20/2008 4:42:03 PM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: F-117A
My screen name has ties to the Turkish variant due to the origin of the name, but I am using the Albanian variant. Skenderbej is the subjective indefinite case, which is used when a name is by itself. Skenderbeu is the subjective definite and it should be used in the context of a sentence, not by itself. In reality, Skenderbeju is the correct spelling of the subjective definite case.

The fight in which we are engaged is the fight against mohammedan oppressors who would take away our freedoms in the name of their “religion”.

36 posted on 02/21/2008 6:37:14 AM PST by Skenderbej
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To: Skenderbej
Thanks for you explanation. However, you previously said, "If the Serbians would have not been so heavy-handed 9 years ago in dealing with the Albanians, NATO would have never gone in....

Instead of being "heavy handed", should Yugoslavia have just bombed the UCK terrorists and their infrastructure from 20,000ft? That a convenient fig leaf for naked agression by Clinton.

Are you as critical of the US being "heavy handed" in it's response to terrorists?

37 posted on 02/21/2008 7:53:37 AM PST by F-117A (Mr. Bush, have someone read UN Resolution 1244 to you!!!)
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To: Godebert

albanians (occupiers) stealing serbian lands


38 posted on 02/21/2008 3:50:46 PM PST by bluebeak
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