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Marine-bashing Toledo mayor whines about “f***king ruckus”
Michelle Malkin ^ | February 15, 2008 | Michelle Malkin

Posted on 02/17/2008 4:32:03 PM PST by george76

Carty Finkbeiner, the jerk mayor of Toledo,cursed on live radio when asked about his anti-Marines stance.

He’s always got excuses. This time he says he was “tongue-tied.”

More likely: Brain-tied.

Radio host Maggie Thurber writes about how The Jerk’s stand could cost the city $57.7 million:

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; US: Ohio; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: carty; cartyfinkbeiner; finkbeiner; fword; malkin; marines; mayor; ruckus; talkradio; toledo
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1 posted on 02/17/2008 4:32:05 PM PST by george76
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To: jazusamo; freema; SunkenCiv; Marine_Uncle; LucyT

Though there are a few who agree with his decision, I don’t think there’s anyone who agrees with the way the decision was carried out, or with the public relations nightmare Carty started because of his last-minute order to prohibit the exercises.

Adding insult to injury, he refused to meet with an officer of the company to see if any alternatives could be worked out, contributing to the indignation over the way the U.S. Marines were treated.

So what is a citizen to do? As there was a failed recall effort last year, another cannot be undertaken for 12 months, which means late this summer.

And that’s where the .75 percent payroll income tax comes into play. This temporary tax, which generates $57.7 million for the City of Toledo, is on the March 4 primary ballot. Since the city’s announcement this would be on the ballot, there have been calls to defeat it.

But with the most recent embarrassment foisted upon the citizenry by Mayor Finkbeiner, the calls to vote “no” have grown louder.

2 posted on 02/17/2008 4:34:06 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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We live in great times.

Just a few years ago, this slime bag would have gotten away with this.

These days, millions find out what he said in just a couple of days and the city that he represents is embarrassed into an apology.

3 posted on 02/17/2008 4:37:01 PM PST by dhs12345
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4 posted on 02/17/2008 4:43:31 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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>>Radio host Maggie Thurber writes about how The Jerk’s stand could cost the city $57.7 million:<<

That part may not be accurate since they are talking about the voters rejecting a tax increase and “the city” is the people not the government then this may save the city $57.7 million.

But the mayor is still a jerk.

5 posted on 02/17/2008 4:46:38 PM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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he told WJR radio in Detroit that he doesn't believe this incident has negatively impacted Toledo's reputation.

He may be right about that but it sure had a negative impact on his reputation if he had any semblance of a good one left.

Maggie Thurber is correct, he is a Jerk!

6 posted on 02/17/2008 4:55:38 PM PST by jazusamo ( |
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The response I recieved from my email to the mayor!

Thank you for your thoughts. Your message will be conveyed to the Mayor. Attached is the Mayor's Statement to the Media and a statement from Lt. Colonel Piccoli, U.S. Marine Corps on this issue.

Statement from Mayor Carty Finkbeiner -Regarding U.S. Marine Corps.
February 10, 2008

Today, I spoke with Major Jeff Brooks of the United States Marine Corps. I conveyed my sincere regret for the failure to communicate within the administration and any inconvenience that caused the U.S. Marine Corps.

I also conveyed, as my staff did on Friday, that we would make available abandoned buildings for Marine training outside of the CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT (CBD).

I concluded by reviewing my belief that the CBD, particularly on a weekday afternoon, was not available for military staging operations. 10,000 - 14,000 men and women would have been departing their offices in downtown Toledo on Friday afternoon with a major military training action unfolding - including the use of weapons being discharged with blanks.

My interest is not only in supporting the U.S. military wherever and whenever such support is sought, but also protecting the health, peace, and tranquility of Toledoans in every way possible.

For those who disagree with my priorities in terms of safeguarding Toledoans, we may disagree, but you have my respect.

Statement from Lt. Colonel Piccoli - U.S. Marine Corps
February 11, 2008

Although our planned training event for Company A, 1st Battalion, 24th Marine Regiment from Grand Rapids, Mich., did not occur over the weekend in the Central Business District of Toledo, Ohio, we greatly appreciate the commitment of the city leaders and the support of the citizens of Toledo to assist us with future training opportunities in the Toledo area.

As the Marine Corps has done in myriad cities in the past, which includes Columbia, S.C. (2003), New Orleans (2004), Savannah, Ga. (2005), and Hampton Roads, Va. (2006), we'll continue to work very closely with community leaders, law enforcement personnel, members of the media and private citizens to ensure our training does not adversely impact them. Such training, coupled with governmental and civic support, enables the U.S. Marine Corps to meet the country's expectations as the nation's premiere force in readiness.

The U.S. Marine Corps stands shoulder to shoulder with the people of Toledo as we move forward together well into the future.

7 posted on 02/17/2008 4:57:30 PM PST by SweetCaroline (Inside me lives a skinny woman crying to get out. But I can usually shut the #itch up with cookies.)
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“Saturday night in Toledo,Ohio....
I spent a week there one day.”
- John Denver must have had it right in that old song.

8 posted on 02/17/2008 5:00:17 PM PST by Martins kid
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Good thing he’s not dyslexic, it’d be a rucking fuckus.

9 posted on 02/17/2008 5:06:55 PM PST by freema (Proud Marine Niece, Daughter, Wife, Friend, Sister, Cousin, Mom and FRiend)
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Carlton appears to be a piece of work. From Wikipedia: Known as much for his temper as his work ethic, many allegations surfaced throughout Finkbeiner's two terms, and more continue to surface in his third.

Toledo restaurateur John Skiadas filed a law-suit alleging that Finkbeiner physically and verbally assaulted him at the Erie Street Market in 2000. The lawsuit was dismissed by Lucas County Common Pleas Judge Charles Wittenberg in 2004.

Finkbeiner was the focus of a segment on the Daily Show poking fun at statements he made suggesting that Toledo could be the next Hollywood. During the interview, Carty expressed his ideas while the camera fixated on Toledo's most rundown neighborhoods, contrasting them with the glitz and glamor of Hollywood. The segment aired during the 1997-98 season.

On July 1, 1998, Carty was fined $400 and court costs after pleading guilty to ethics charges when he was Mayor, realized a $10,000 profit from Owens Corning's purchase of his condo, and his failure to publicly report the gain.

He plagiarized a single line in his KICK-OFF speech in 1998

Finkbeiner suggested relieving the problem of noise complaints from neighbors of Toledo Express Airport by selling homes nearby at low cost to deaf people.

In early 2006, political adversaries scoffed over the Mayor spending $9,996 of city money to complete the installation of shower facilities in his City Government building office. The project was considered "controversial" in part because the shower quote was originally $10,006, six dollars over a threshold that requires approval from City Council. The contractor was able to shave $10 from the project, thus avoiding a Council vote on the proposal.

In May 2006, he called Toledo's African-American Fire Chief Michael Bell “King Kong” at a staff meeting. Finkbeiner later clarified his remarks as relating to the Chiefs physical stature, and Chief Bell has acknowledged in public that he took no offense to the remarks.

In June 2006, Jack Smith resigned from his brief tenure as Chief of Police after what he described as a near-physical confrontation with the mayor after they exchanged words.

In January 2007, Finkbeiner claimed that both he and wife Amy were treated unprofessionally by Ottawa County sheriff's deputies when they tried to visit Amy's son, an inmate, on separate occasions. Amy Finkbeiner claimed she was not allowed to use a ladies' room at the jail, while Finkbeiner said he was denied a chance to visit after visiting hours had concluded. Sheriff Bob Bratton said the deputies were only doing their jobs.

Also, in January 2007 Finkbeiner and his press secretary were sued by radio station WSPD, claiming that First Amendment provisions regarding freedom of the press were violated when the press secretary forcibly kept a station employee out of a public press conference. Finkbeiner's objection to the employee is that he produces opinions and editorials, and is not in fact a reporter on behalf of WSPD. On January 31, a federal judge granted the station a permanent injunction requiring Finkbeiner and his staff to admit station personnel.

Finkbeiner has also suggested a cafe be built on the Martin Luther King bridge so city employees could eat there while the bridge was undergoing construction.

In August 2007, Finkbeiner was confronted on two occasions by reporters because he parked in a handicapped spot and left his dog, Scout, in the car during a hot spell. Finkbeiner was ticketed and fined, but denied mistreating the animal.

In February 2008, Finkbeiner refused to let a company of Marine Corps Reservists engage in urban patrol exercises on the streets of downtown as well as inside the mostly vacant Madison Building, 607 Madison Ave. Toledo police knew about the event three days in advance, but it wasn't until the Marines arrived that "the mayor asked them to leave because they frighten people," said Brian Schwartz, the mayor's spokesman.[13] Finkbeiner defended his decision to cancel the exercise, but in an e-mail to Marine Corps officials, he expressed support for the Marines and the military and invited the Marine unit to return to Toledo for training, but not downtown.

In reaction to the uproar Finkbeiner has offered conflicting explanations for his denial. During a recent interview Finkbeiner used the profanity to describe the situation he caused as a "f*cking ruckus"

10 posted on 02/17/2008 5:24:13 PM PST by Loyal Buckeye
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So here's to the dogs of Toledo Ohio

Ladies we bid you goodbye

11 posted on 02/17/2008 5:40:56 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: SweetCaroline

Don’t forget the Marines held their TRUEX in Dayton, Ohio a few years back......and the city loved it!

12 posted on 02/17/2008 5:54:50 PM PST by Recon Dad (Marine Spec Ops Dad)
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13 posted on 02/17/2008 6:04:30 PM PST by Brilliant
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Carty: what a silly bunt

14 posted on 02/17/2008 6:15:54 PM PST by a_different_conservative
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15 posted on 02/17/2008 6:17:20 PM PST by PGalt
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16 posted on 02/17/2008 7:00:01 PM PST by Francis McClobber
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To: george76

Toledo had an R mayor back in the 1980’s....

17 posted on 02/17/2008 7:55:05 PM PST by scrabblehack
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“Carty Finkbeiner”

A stupid name for a stupid man.

18 posted on 02/18/2008 8:36:44 AM PST by monday
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Carty F××kbeiner is one screwed up individual. He should have to pay back the wasted tax money.

19 posted on 02/18/2008 8:45:11 AM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (****************************Stop Continental Drift**)
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McCheese ping.

20 posted on 02/18/2008 12:29:39 PM PST by SunkenCiv ( updated Sunday, February 10, 2008)
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