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Couple Accused Of Fabricating Evidence In Boulder Land Dispute ( former mayor and judge McLean )
7 NEWS ^ | February 14, 2008 | Jaclyn Allen

Posted on 02/14/2008 10:00:45 PM PST by george76

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To: norwaypinesavage
"McLean and Stevens said in the letter that they never trespassed on the Kirlins' property, they did not make the claim of adverse possession to protect a scenic view, and they did not use any connections within the court system to help their case, the Camera reported."

Unbelievably dishonest.

21 posted on 02/15/2008 10:20:18 AM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Gondring

In order to claim adverse possession, one must have trespassed to begin with.


22 posted on 02/15/2008 10:27:03 AM PST by keepitreal
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To: keepitreal

I wonder if these people think that what they won was worth their infamy now?


23 posted on 02/15/2008 10:39:45 AM PST by SaintDismas (.)
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To: shaft29
What site do you use to obtain these photos?

I don't recall; they weren't all freely available online, but here are a few from the Boulder County website.

From the link posted upthread, showing the path in 2007, for reference:

To give an idea of the neighborhood:

Note that the Stevens claim the path goes to their backyard (2059 Hardscrabble Drive is their property, in blue), and it clearly does not...and is not even present in this 2006 aerial from the Boulder County website (note that the yellow circle is a bit to the east of where the path should be--it was drawn to illustrate that the path is on the opposite side of the property from the Stevens property:
(Click here and select "E-Mapping" at the bottom. After the disclaimer, you should be taken to the Stevens-property aerial. I believe the property in question is 2069 Hardscrabble, but I have to get back to work and can't look it up now.

24 posted on 02/15/2008 10:41:03 AM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: JennysCool

We have one we are dealing with here in the city I work for. We are going to be widening the main entrance road into the city and need to acquire right of way. 4 years ago when we held a couple of public open houses to discuss the merits of the project, one of the adjoining property owners came forward at that time and said that if he didn’t get everything he wanted, he would sue! And that is exactly what he has done the entire step of the way.

He filed a TRO to stop an earlier phase and the judge who allowed it failed to follow state law requiring a bond be posted to pay for damages if was determined to be fraudlent. It was but it cost an additional $65,000 to pay the contractor “standby time”.

Now he claims that his survey on his property in 1978 which dedicated an additional 15 feet of R/W was for his private use and we couldn’t use it to establish legal claim to the R/W. The only problem was the survey was filed and recorded with the County Auditor’s office. When he was questioned again by the judge about whay did the survey get filed by their surveyor, their defense was that they didn’t know but that you can’t use their own survey against them...

This guy is mentally unstable and sends out multiple email rants to the news, city, state, and federal officials about how unfair how he has been treated. His actions are similar to that whack job in St. Louis who killed those people last week...

Here is the link: http://www.kimatv.com/news/local/15616977.html


25 posted on 02/15/2008 10:44:12 AM PST by shotgun
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To: george76

“McLean, Stevens “

Scumbags should lose everything.

Thanks for the update.


26 posted on 02/15/2008 10:45:31 AM PST by dynachrome (Immigration without assimilation means the death of this nation~Captainpaintball)
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To: Gondring; george76
"I saw no path on the historical aerials I looked up. I do hope they get a new residence behind bars."

Amen!

This isn't really news. Many of us here looked up recent high definition photos that didn't show a path, even though they are clear enough to see the texture of the grass. Give these creeps an orange tuxedo to wear at the gray bar ballroom.

27 posted on 02/15/2008 1:22:40 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: beaversmom; spunkets
"To think we actually had some FReepers defending these slugs."

The usual suspects.

28 posted on 02/15/2008 1:26:28 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: Sacajaweau

My parents could have easily filed two of these in NY, but being honest, decent folks, they did not. Some people are just not honest, decent folks.


29 posted on 02/15/2008 1:34:32 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: editor-surveyor; george76; beaversmom; spunkets; dynachrome; wequalswinner
Note also that Edith "Edie" Stevens is listed as treasurer for "Claire Levy for State Representative." Representative Levy is a lawyer, of course.

Will her association with the scum in this case stick to her in her next election campaign? I wonder.

30 posted on 02/15/2008 1:41:56 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Gondring

Edith “Edie” Stevens was fired as treasurer by Claire Levy once this land grab became public.

Claire apparently saw the light when many Boulder voters complained.


31 posted on 02/15/2008 1:47:05 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
Thank you for the clarification! I had thought that was the case, which is why I said, "is listed as treasurer" and not just "is treasurer" :-)

Funny that the website still lists her that way. I thought perhaps a bait-and-switch had been pulled.

Heck, if Edie Stevens is as dishonest as she seems, maybe she'd pocketing any contributions! ;-)

32 posted on 02/15/2008 1:51:10 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Gondring

Could be a bait-and-switch .

Claire could say one thing to the media while doing the opposite.

They are democrat lawyers, so lying is not a problem ?


33 posted on 02/15/2008 2:24:07 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
“These people have committed fraud on the court,” said Don Kirlin.

They most certainly have...however, being high-level Democrats, what's the chance they'll be held accountable for it?

If the Kirlins didn't show aerial proof of the path's nonexistence during the first trial, will they get a chance to at their appeal?

Maybe, maybe not, but if criminality can be proved beyond a reasonable doubt (and here, a picture is worth a thousand words) maybe the two of them will be enjoying the view in prison where they and their judge buddies belong.

It was interesting that Edie Stevens wrote in a letter to her 'friends' that they never trespassed. So which is it?

34 posted on 02/15/2008 3:16:10 PM PST by pray4liberty (Watch and pray.)
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To: george76
"To suggest that he would do anything, anything that would be improper in the legal system is absolutely unfair," she said with tears in her eyes.

Cry me a river, witch!

Interesting, that the word "thieves" is in Edith Stevens very name.

35 posted on 02/15/2008 3:22:56 PM PST by pray4liberty (Watch and pray.)
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To: Gondring

Do you have any ground level photos to link to?


36 posted on 02/17/2008 10:35:58 AM PST by rawhide
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To: Gondring; duffus

Lots of pictures by Gondring


37 posted on 02/17/2008 10:41:27 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
Nov 2006 photo showing no path.(taken one day after lawsuit filed for land grab)

Nov 2007 photo showing a path.(look carefully, path is going around the right of the pine tree)


38 posted on 02/17/2008 11:30:34 AM PST by rawhide
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To: rawhide; george76
Here is a video walkthrough with the Kirlins (from the Daily Camera).

Here are photos that were filed as exhibits:









It's important to note that there is the hint of a path there in 2006, but that there definitely seems to have been a great deal of "enhancement" conducted since then. Defenders of the Kirlins suggest that this earlier path was for access to the parkland ("open space" as they say in Colorado) behind the Kirlin's property, and they show similar neighborhood paths as evidence of how common these are--that a path doesn't mean that it was "Edie" who created "Edie's Path."

Also note that this is not the only case of this in Colorado. Fortunately, the court ruled against the wannabe grabbers in another case in Boulder County. Here's the ruling where he has to pay $33,000+ in expert witness fees, too.

Of course, there will be those FReepers who won't be happy with that, since the grabbers were trying to open up nature land for recreation. We can hope that justice eventually prevails in this case.

39 posted on 02/17/2008 12:10:10 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Gondring

thanks

excellent job


40 posted on 02/17/2008 12:22:40 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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