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Great Britain: Internet users could be banned over illegal downloads
The Times (U.K.) ^ | February 12, 2008 | Francis Eliott

Posted on 02/12/2008 10:23:55 AM PST by Stoat

Internet users could be banned over illegal downloads

 

People who illegally download films and music will be cut off from the internet under new legislative proposals to be unveiled next week.

Internet service providers (ISPs) will be legally required to take action against users who access pirated material, The Times has learnt.

Users suspected of wrongly downloading films or music will receive a warning e-mail for the first offence, a suspension for the second infringement and the termination of their internet contract if caught a third time, under the most likely option to emerge from discussions about the new law.

Broadband companies who fail to enforce the “three-strikes” regime would be prosecuted and suspected customers’ details could be made available to the courts. The Government has yet to decide if information on offenders should be shared between ISPs.

Six million broadband users are estimated to download files illegally every year in this country in a practice that music and film companies claim is costing them billions of pounds in lost revenue annually.

Britain’s four biggest internet providers – BT, Tiscali, Orange and Virgin Media – have been in talks with Hollywood’s biggest studio and distribution companies for six months over a voluntary scheme.

Parallel negotiations between Britain’s music industry and individual internet providers have been dragging on for two years.

Major sticking points include who will arbitrate disputed allegations, for example when customers claim to have been the victim of “wi-fi piggybacking”, in which users link up to a paid-for wireless network that is not their own. Another outstanding disagreement is how many enforcements the internet companies will be expected to initiate and how quickly warning e-mails would be sent.

International action in the US and France, which is implementing its own “three-strikes” regime, has increased the pressure on British internet companies and stiffened the Government’s resolve.

Ministers will make an explicit commitment to legislate with the launch next week of a Green Paper on the creative industries. A draft copy, obtained by The Times, states: “We will move to legislate to require internet service providers to take action on illegal file-sharing.” A consultation paper setting out the options is promised within months.

A spokesman for the Internet Service Providers Association said it remained hopeful that agreement over a voluntary agreement could be reached: “Every right-thinking body knows that self-regulation is much the better option in these areas.”

Roz Groome, vice-president of antipiracy for NBC Universal, welcomed the prospect of new laws. “We welcome the signal from Government that it values the health of the creative industries and takes seriously the damage caused by widespread online copyright infringement. We call upon ISPs to take action now. They must play their part in the fight against online piracy and work with rights owners to ensure that ISPs’ customers do not use their services for illegal activity. Piracy stifles innovation and threatens the long term health of our industry.”

Ed Vaizey, the Shadow Arts Minister, said: “David Cameron called on the internet providers to address this issue last summer. The credibility of the Government’s latest threat is undermined by the fact that ministers have spent so many years dithering on whether to legislate.”

The commitment forms part of a Green Paper on the creative industries entitled The World’s Creative Hub to be launched by Andy Burnham, the Culture Secretary, and Gordon Brown next week.

Other high-profile elements include a pledge that children will be entitled to five hours of culture a week overseen by a new youth culture trust. The pledge will give children the right to learn a musical instrument, visit art galleries and museums and even make films.

Other pledges include setting up a new international conference modelled on Davos, entitled the World Creative Economy Forum, and supporting a new £200 million film centre at the South Bank in London. A spokeswoman for the Department for Culture, Media and Sport said: “Early drafts of our creative economy programme document were circulated to stakeholders for comment. The content and proposals for the strategy have been significantly developed since then and a comprehensive plan to bolster the UK’s creative industries will be published shortly. We will not comment on the content of the leaked document.”



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Technical; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: britain; celebratediversity; indoctrination; internet; politicalreeducation; privacy; tech; thoughtcontrol; uk; unitedkingdom
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BBC NEWS Business Illegal downloaders 'face UK ban'

 
If the law were enacted it would turn ISPs, like BT, Tiscali and Virgin, into a pro-active net police force
 
Darren Waters, technology editor BBC News website

 

 
Internet providers are no more able to inspect and filter every single packet passing across their network than the Post Office is able to open every envelope,
 
Internet Service Providers Association

1 posted on 02/12/2008 10:24:08 AM PST by Stoat
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To: Stoat
Other high-profile elements include a pledge that children will be entitled to five hours of culture a week overseen by a new youth culture trust.

I know the article is about ISPs and file download, but this kind of jumped out at me as the largest and most cretinous boondoggle that I have ever had to pay for.

2 posted on 02/12/2008 10:28:09 AM PST by agere_contra
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To: Stoat; rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; Salo; Bobsat; JosephW; ...

3 posted on 02/12/2008 10:30:42 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Stoat
Coming soon: Everyone will be required to apply for a license to use the Internet because it’s a privilege, not a right, and governments everywhere could really use the cash to teach us all how to distinguish between good content and bad.
4 posted on 02/12/2008 10:31:11 AM PST by Stevieboy
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To: Stoat

Just another excuse to expand the British police state.


5 posted on 02/12/2008 10:33:02 AM PST by PeterFinn (A muslim in the White House would be an Obamination.)
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To: agere_contra
Other high-profile elements include a pledge that children will be entitled to five hours of culture a week overseen by a new youth culture trust.

I know the article is about ISPs and file download, but this kind of jumped out at me as the largest and most cretinous boondoggle that I have ever had to pay for.

And then the muzzies will complain that the "persecution" they face is due to an "insufficient" amount of time given to Government Culture Indoctrination, and so it will be doubled.

And then the homosexuals will complain that they are still being discriminated against, and it will be doubled again.

And our dear British Friends will be forced to pay for it all.

"sigh"

6 posted on 02/12/2008 10:39:13 AM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: agere_contra
Other high-profile elements include a pledge that children will be entitled to five hours of culture a week overseen by a new youth culture trust.

I know the article is about ISPs and file download, but this kind of jumped out at me as the largest and most cretinous boondoggle that I have ever had to pay for.

And then the muzzies will complain that the "persecution" they face is due to an "insufficient" amount of time given to Government Culture Indoctrination, and so it will be doubled.

And then the homosexuals will complain that they are still being discriminated against, and it will be doubled again.

And our dear British Friends will be forced to pay for it all.

"sigh"

7 posted on 02/12/2008 10:39:27 AM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stevieboy
Everyone will be required to apply for a license to use the Internet because it’s a privilege, not a right,

The British already require a license to *own* a TV.

8 posted on 02/12/2008 10:39:55 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Stoat

WHOOPS! Sorry about the double post.


9 posted on 02/12/2008 10:40:26 AM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat

and just what are the Chinese going to do....Not so long ago the Chines “stole” an entire CD/DVD factory, from I think Philips.....they let them build it, then just shipped all the equipment out....

Gordon Brown is well known as a control freak, so he will love doing this.


10 posted on 02/12/2008 10:42:10 AM PST by crazycat
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To: Stevieboy

Didn’t Howard Dean already propose something like that here in the US? (not kidding)


11 posted on 02/12/2008 10:43:52 AM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: ShadowAce
Thank you very much for pinging your list  :-)

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12 posted on 02/12/2008 10:45:41 AM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: ShadowAce
The British already require a license to *own* a TV.

Surely you jest? Not that I wouldn't believe it.
13 posted on 02/12/2008 10:45:56 AM PST by Stevieboy
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To: Stevieboy

Nope. I’m perfectly serious. What I’m not certain about is whether owning a TV without paying the license is a civil or criminal offense. I *think* I’ve heard of jail sentences for it.


14 posted on 02/12/2008 10:47:31 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: agere_contra

“Other high-profile elements include a pledge that children will be entitled to five hours of culture a week overseen by a new youth culture trust.”

That sounds just like the Hitler Youth crap. Yikes!!!
And I bet it will NOT be high in real culture.


15 posted on 02/12/2008 10:48:50 AM PST by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publici scholae)
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To: Stoat

Shades of “V for Vendetta”! :o


16 posted on 02/12/2008 10:49:51 AM PST by BossLady ("People will do anything, no matter how absurd, in order to avoid facing their own soul" - Carl Jung)
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To: Stevieboy
Coming soon: Everyone will be required to apply for a license to use the Internet because it’s a privilege, not a right, and governments everywhere could really use the cash to teach us all how to distinguish between good content and bad.
 

So then when The UK Times newspaper offers a free MP3 download...and in order to obtain that download I am forced to supply an email address....and when I supply a fake email address because I don't want to be spammed, have I broken the law because I've "subverted the legal acquisition process" ?

And when I put that same mp3 file up on the Bit Torrent network or share it via another P2P, have I also broken the law?

17 posted on 02/12/2008 10:51:40 AM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stevieboy
Coming soon: Everyone will be required to apply for a license to use the Internet because it’s a privilege, not a right, and

You do realize that in the UK you already have to have a license just to own a TV or a radio? Even if the TV is not hooked up to cable or an antenna and is only used for videos you still need a license to have it.
18 posted on 02/12/2008 10:57:05 AM PST by TalonDJ
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To: ShadowAce; Stevieboy; TalonDJ
The British already require a license to *own* a TV.

FYI

TVL - Welcome to TV Licensing

Do I need a licence?

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You need a TV Licence to use any television receiving equipment such as a TV set, set-top boxes, video or DVD recorders, computers or mobile phones to watch or record TV programmes as they are being shown on TV.

If you use a set-top box with a hi-fi system or another device that can only be used to produce sounds and can't display TV programmes, and you don't install or use any other TV receiving equipment, you don't need a TV Licence.
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How much does it cost?

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A colour TV Licence costs £135.50 and a black and white licence costs £45.50.

19 posted on 02/12/2008 10:59:59 AM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat
People who illegally download films and music will be cut off from the internet

What a wonderful idea! It should be expanded:

Get caught stealing food: banned from grocery stores and restaurants! /sarcasm

20 posted on 02/12/2008 11:01:04 AM PST by TheMightyQuinn
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