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Utah's Mormons loathe Huckabee
Politico ^ | 2/04/2008 | Richard T. Cullen

Posted on 02/04/2008 8:20:41 PM PST by JRochelle

Of all the possible Super Tuesday outcomes, one is more certain than any other: Mike Huckabee will not carry the state of Utah.

In large part it’s because Mitt Romney, a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and the man credited with saving the Salt Lake City Olympics, is more popular here than in any other state.

But the other reason is that overwhelmingly Mormon Utah has taken a profound dislike to the Southern Baptist preacher best known for his nice-guy persona.

The wellspring of Huckabee hate is a now-famous Dec. 16 New York Times Magazine interview in which the former Arkansas governor, in an “innocent voice,” is reported to have asked, “Don’t Mormons ... believe that Jesus and the devil are brothers?”

To Mormons, Huckabee’s eyebrow-raising question represented not only a gross distortion of their beliefs but also a carefully calculated move by a Christian politician who surely knew better.

Huckabee’s remark prompted Romney to call the comments “just not the American way” on NBC’s “Today” show.

Huckabee quickly apologized, saying that Romney’s Mormonism had nothing to do with whether he should be president. With that, the candidates and the national media moved on to other topics.

In Utah, however, all was not forgiven.

“There is a feeling that Huckabee has exploited a lot of the anti-Mormon sentiment,” said LaVarr Webb, a political consultant and publisher in Utah.

“The feeling is that he would certainly know the answers to these questions that he’s been asking sometimes,” said Chuck Gates, assistant managing editor of Utah’s Deseret Morning News.

According to Webb and other state political insiders interviewed by Politico, many Mormons maintain that Huckabee’s apology did not go nearly far enough.

Quin Monson, assistant director of the Center for the Study of Elections and Democracy at Brigham Young University, says many observers believe that “evangelicals have rejected Romney, and that Huckabee is aiding and abetting that. ... He’s egging it on.”

As it turns out, this isn’t the first time that Huckabee has rubbed Utahans the wrong way. In the summer of 1998, then-Arkansas Gov. Huckabee, along with fellow national church leaders, attended the National Southern Baptist Convention in Salt Lake City.

At the time, the decision to hold the event in the shadow of the Mormon Tabernacle was viewed by many Mormons as an insulting stab directed at the very heart of the LDS church.

Worse, according to an account published in the Salt Lake Tribune during the convention, some 2,000 “messengers” of the Southern Baptist Convention went door to door in Utah and proselytized, “armed with questionnaires and their personal belief in Jesus Christ as their savior.”

Because of his participation in that convention and because of his theological background, many Utahans believe that Huckabee has been deeply disingenuous throughout the campaign — not just in one well-publicized interview — in his approach toward the issue of Romney’s Mormon faith.

The Huckabee campaign did not respond to e-mail and phone requests for comment.

The Baptists’ choice of Salt Lake City was a deliberate one, said James Guth, a leading authority on the influence of religion in politics and professor at Furman University.

The Baptists intended to “create a new mission field.” Mormons and the Southern Baptists, he explained, are members of “competing missionary religions.”

“It used to be that the Mormons were in Utah and Southern Baptists were in the South,” Guth said. “Now, Mormons are all over the world, and Southern Baptists want to be all over the world.”

Aside from the issue of clashing faiths, there is a more practical component to Huckabee’s unpopularity.

There is a widespread belief, not just in Utah but among many Romney partisans, that Huckabee’s long-shot — and lingering — candidacy is serving little purpose other than to siphon votes from Romney, Utah’s adopted son, by splitting the conservative vote against John McCain.

“There’s just the feeling that if we really wanted to unite behind a conservative candidate, we would unite behind Romney,” said Dave Hansen, former campaign manager for Sen. Orrin G. Hatch (R-Utah).

“You can’t force [Huckabee] out, but all things considered, I think there are a lot of conservatives who wish he were not still in the race.”

In the unlikely event that Huckabee does capture the Republican nomination, his Utah baggage could come back to haunt him.

In the deeply red state where President Bush still maintains some of his highest approval ratings, a place that has ranked as the most Republican state in the nation in six of the past eight presidential elections, a BYU poll released Monday reveals that Huckabee would pull off the seemingly impossible.

As GOP nominee, he would lose the state of Utah in a hypothetical matchup with Democrat Barack Obama, 58 percent to 42 percent.

Romney, by contrast, would defeat Obama 69 percent to 31 percent. McCain would also win against Obama, though by a more modest 55 percent to 45 percent.

Still, there are limits to how much Utah dislikes Huckabee: In a head-to-head matchup with Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton, Huckabee wins handily, 60 percent to 41 percent.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: huckabee; mikehuckabee; mormonism; mormonvote; romney; ut2008
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The whole line that Huckabee should drop out in order to stop McCain is stupid.
1 posted on 02/04/2008 8:20:42 PM PST by JRochelle
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To: JRochelle
Huck is only in the race to siphon evangelical votes from Romney and play king maker. Perhaps a look at the VP spot.

He's not Presidential material.

2 posted on 02/04/2008 8:23:00 PM PST by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
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To: JRochelle

Hey, just look at his dog hanging fat sons. Of course he should stay. He must have been an excellent father to raise such fine boys. I am sure he would do a great job.


3 posted on 02/04/2008 8:23:50 PM PST by lookout88 (Combat search and rescue officer's dad.)
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To: JRochelle

I’m a Utah Mormon and I like both Huckabee, but more I like McCain and Gulliani.

The only one I don’t like is Romney. I guess I get beat up on this board for being a Mormona and a McCain supporter.. the worst of both worlds I guess from a Freeper standpoint.


4 posted on 02/04/2008 8:24:24 PM PST by Count of Monte Logan
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To: Bosco

I agree. Then again neither is Romney.


5 posted on 02/04/2008 8:24:30 PM PST by JRochelle ("But dad, Eli is copying me!" Peyton)
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To: JRochelle
The only people who think it is stupid are those who KNOW it is true. Who has a better chance to beat McCain?

A folksy Minister with a nanny state political agenda, no political organization, no money and no support anywhere in the Conservative media who has made stunning gaff after gaff who polls at the bottom almost everywhere in every poll(

or a articulate successful business man and former Govt with a $250 million war chest, a strong political organization and the backing of virtually the entire Conservative media Establishment who is ahead or within a few points of McCain in virtually every poll?

6 posted on 02/04/2008 8:27:31 PM PST by MNJohnnie (McCain is about as tough on Foreign Policy as the next opinion poll)
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To: Count of Monte Logan
You are a rare one!

I think Romney will take Utah tomorrow by about 80%.

7 posted on 02/04/2008 8:28:08 PM PST by JRochelle ("But dad, Eli is copying me!" Peyton)
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To: JRochelle
I loathe Huckabee too and I’m not a Mormon. Trust me, lots of people loathe Huckabee, and - if McCain wins the nomination, even more people are going to loathe Huckabee.
8 posted on 02/04/2008 8:29:06 PM PST by khnyny (Quid Est Veritas)
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To: Bosco

So what if he is?


9 posted on 02/04/2008 8:29:23 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: Count of Monte Logan
No, that you are a big Govt Liberal thinking you are “Conservative” hanging out on a Conservative website is the worse of it

McCain has purposed a $ .50 a gallon gas tax hike. Read McCain-Lieberman.

IF the GOP is not even willing to fight the Democrats on taxes, there is virtually no difference between the two sides.

Why vote McCain and get Democrat Lite?

You don’t honestly believe Mr “Surrender Iraq to Syria/Iran via a Baker Commission directed political deal, Close Gitmo and give the Terrorists the same legal protections as US Citizens” McCain is actually going to fight the War do you?

10 posted on 02/04/2008 8:31:14 PM PST by MNJohnnie (McCain is about as tough on Foreign Policy as the next opinion poll)
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To: JRochelle
In a head-to-head matchup with Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton, Huckabee wins handily, 60 percent to 41 percent.

Sounds like Chicago-style voting, at least for HRC's last 1% or so.

11 posted on 02/04/2008 8:31:43 PM PST by aposiopetic
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To: MNJohnnie
One the one hand, Huckabee supporters are bigots.

Yet on the other, they would switch to Mitt if Huckabee would drop out.
Which is it?

I have no doubt that Huckabee likes McCain better than Mitt. So he stays in to help McCain.

What is wrong with that?

Mitt should be depending on other candidates to help him win. He can’t seem to close the deal himself.

That is his fault alone.

12 posted on 02/04/2008 8:31:50 PM PST by JRochelle ("But dad, Eli is copying me!" Peyton)
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To: JRochelle

if he is for real!


13 posted on 02/04/2008 8:31:59 PM PST by restornu (John McCain motto: “Republican by day, Democrat by night” *** Romney is the true American Capitalist)
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To: MNJohnnie

we think it is more important to defeat pro-abortion pro-gay anti-gun Romney, just as we defeated pro-abortion pro-gay anti-gun Rudy.


14 posted on 02/04/2008 8:32:02 PM PST by ari-freedom (Jim Robinson "Free Republic’s goal is to elect conservatives. Romney is NO conservative")
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To: JRochelle

“The whole line that Huckabee should drop out in order to stop McCain is stupid.”

Indeed it is:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1964996/posts


15 posted on 02/04/2008 8:32:05 PM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Count of Monte Logan

You honestly think John “Gang of 14” McCain who organized a surrender to the Democrats on Judges once is going to fight his good buddies Ted Kennedy, John Kerry and Russ Feingold to get you a Conservative SC Justice?


16 posted on 02/04/2008 8:32:29 PM PST by MNJohnnie (McCain is about as tough on Foreign Policy as the next opinion poll)
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To: Count of Monte Logan
Who else supports McCain?
17 posted on 02/04/2008 8:32:34 PM PST by I'm ALL Right! (R.I.P . Conservatism 1790 - 2008)
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To: JRochelle

That should say:
Mitt should NOT be depending on other candidates to help him win.


18 posted on 02/04/2008 8:32:37 PM PST by JRochelle ("But dad, Eli is copying me!" Peyton)
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To: JRochelle

Huckabee’s “theological background”? That’s a bit of a stretch, I think.


19 posted on 02/04/2008 8:32:50 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: JRochelle

Huckleberry is only staying in to help McLame, hoping for the VP spot.


20 posted on 02/04/2008 8:32:55 PM PST by ozzymandus
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