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Virginia Beach police seize photos from Abercrombie store [cited manager on obscenity charges]
The Virginian Pilot ^ | 2/3/08 | Steve Stone

Posted on 02/03/2008 8:42:32 AM PST by XR7

Police, saying they were responding to citizen complaints, carted away two large promotional photographs from the Abercrombie & Fitch store in Lynnhaven Mall on Saturday and cited the manager on obscenity charges.

Adam Bernstein, a police spokesman, said the seizure and the issuance of the summons came only after store management had not heeded warnings to remove the images.

The citation was issued under City Code Section 22.31, Bernstein said, which makes it a crime to display "obscene materials in a business that is open to juveniles." He did not say what was being done with the pictures and when the manager, whose name was not released, is scheduled to appear in court.

The manager, reached by telephone, declined to comment on the incident Saturday, saying that he was conferring with and waiting for guidance from Abercrombie corporate officials.

The mural-like black-and-white photographs were taken from the store at midafternoon.

Bernstein confirmed that one depicts three shirtless young men from the back, walking through a field. The man in the lead appears to be about to pull up his jeans, which have slipped down enough to reveal his upper buttocks.

The same image is displayed on the Abercrombie Web site.

The other image is of a woman who is topless and whose "breast is displayed with her hand covering just the nipple portion," Bernstein said. "You could still pretty much see the rest of the breast."

The seizure was "prompted by several customer complaints, and the management of Abercrombie & Fitch was notified of those complaints," Bernstein said.

The company's corporate offices in New Albany, Ohio, were closed Saturday and no officials could be reached for comment.

Bernstein said the summons for a Class One misdemeanor was issued to the manager because there is no legal way to issue a summons to a corporate entity in such circumstances. The manager was not arrested but faces a fine of up to $2,000 and as much as a year in jail, if convicted.

Bernstein said that in a meeting last week with store management, the officer - who is assigned to routine patrol of the mall - said he understood it was a corporate decision as to what would be displayed in the stores. But he explained that that didn't exempt the local store from complying with the city code.

Bernstein said management was told specifically: "We want those advertising signs taken down."

When the officer returned to the store Saturday, Bernstein said, he found that the pictures were still in place.

Abercrombie & Fitch has earned a reputation for its risqué catalogues and promotional photography featuring scantily clothed models.

In 2003, the company halted publication of its 7-year-old A&F Quarterly catalog because of complaints about sexually suggestive photographs by award-winning photographer Bruce Weber.

Steve Stone, (757) 446-2309, steve.stone@pilotonline.com


TOPICS: US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: abercrombie; abercrombiefitch; boycott; childabuse; childexploitation; culturewar; donutwatch; gayagenda; homosexualagenda; obscene; obscenity; pedophile; pedophiles; pedophilia; perversion; pornification; sexualizingchildren
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Abercrombie & Fitch has earned a reputation for its risqué catalogues and promotional photography featuring scantily clothed models.

Exploiters of children.
Lock 'em up!

Agree or disagree?

1 posted on 02/03/2008 8:42:34 AM PST by XR7
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To: XR7
For a clothing store, they sure promote a lot of nakedness.
2 posted on 02/03/2008 8:47:21 AM PST by MaryFromMichigan
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To: XR7
They sure do push the envelope with their advertising. But Lock 'em up? Not so sure.

Maybe "Make 'em show more mature models" fits, or "Put a sock on that".
3 posted on 02/03/2008 8:48:55 AM PST by tongue-tied
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To: MaryFromMichigan

Have you ever been in one of those stores? Their large size wouldn’t fit a Barbie doll...and that’s before it’s washed.


4 posted on 02/03/2008 8:49:18 AM PST by tsmith130
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To: XR7

what great free publicity for them....


5 posted on 02/03/2008 8:49:47 AM PST by porter_knorr
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To: porter_knorr

They need it too, they are closing a few stores.


6 posted on 02/03/2008 8:51:49 AM PST by cmsgop ( McCain , Do Not Want.....)
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To: XR7

The Va-Beach police have given Ab-Fitch exactly what they were looking for....free publicity. That’s what they do with their “edgy” advertising.

Are their ads pushing the lines of taste? Yes. Obscene? It’s in the eye of the beholder...there are places where Sports Illustrated swimsuit edition is obscene.


7 posted on 02/03/2008 8:52:50 AM PST by Keith in Iowa ( <<<Say NO! to Juan McAmnesty!>>>!!! <<<Life's a bitch, don't elect one President.>>>)
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To: MaryFromMichigan

Posing as the cure, no doubt.


8 posted on 02/03/2008 8:53:26 AM PST by purpleraine
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To: tsmith130
Their large size wouldn’t fit a Barbie doll

Thanks for the tip. Mrs ASA Vet is a size 00 or smaller. I'll take her there forthwith.

9 posted on 02/03/2008 8:53:31 AM PST by ASA Vet
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To: XR7
A&F have come a ways from "Man's Favorite Sport"
10 posted on 02/03/2008 8:54:29 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Being an idealist excuses nothing. Hitler was an idealist.)
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To: tongue-tied
"Make 'em show more mature models"

How, if not locking 'em up?

11 posted on 02/03/2008 8:54:56 AM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: XR7

I am unaware of any definition of obscene that been held as constitutional that these ads would meet. There is neither nudity not sexual content in either of them.

Virginia Beach is going to end up owing Abercrombie quite a bit of money if they persist with this prosecution.


12 posted on 02/03/2008 8:57:02 AM PST by Moral Hazard (Fred Thompson/Joe Don Baker in 08, because America needs bald, beefy character actors!)
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To: Gondring
Sorry, sarcasm or facetiousness tag wasn't attached.

If the clothes were made for older folks, they'd have older models. The near-nudity advertising sells, and they know it. Regardless of age.
13 posted on 02/03/2008 8:58:06 AM PST by tongue-tied
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To: ASA Vet

Bring earplugs...the music is so loud you can’t hear yourself think.


14 posted on 02/03/2008 8:58:14 AM PST by tsmith130
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RE: the Pictures seized (According to the article link)

Butt Crack?

If you can get charges for pictures of that then I know of several consturction workers/plumbers who probably would make the FBI's top ten most wanted list, for real-time obscenity charges.

15 posted on 02/03/2008 9:01:00 AM PST by Mad Dawgg ("`Eddies,' said Ford, `in the space-time continuum.' `Ah,' nodded Arthur, `is he? Is he?'")
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To: porter_knorr

I’m certain that they broke out the emergency fax machines at A&F headquarters after this decision was made. They can’t wait for this type of stuff to happen so they can remind everyone they still exist.


16 posted on 02/03/2008 9:04:27 AM PST by nitzy (globalism and limited government cannot co-exist)
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To: XR7

The “models” are young enough that I am surprised Abercronbie isn’t charged with manufacturing kiddie porn.


17 posted on 02/03/2008 9:11:52 AM PST by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: Mad Dawgg
Butt Crack? I know of several consturction workers/plumbers...

But they don't display huge posters of said butt crack so they're good to go. No pictures; they're real live 'actors', no sweat.

Like all of the real life "kids" running around looking like the A&F adverts. Oh wait....none. Never mind. But we're talking about it huh?

And Va Beach (23456 zip code, I always liked that) is making it 'news'.
18 posted on 02/03/2008 9:12:36 AM PST by tongue-tied
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To: MaryFromMichigan; EarthBound

I’ve walked by the images plenty of times, and I would have to agree. For a CLOTHING store, they advertise alot of skin.

It might as well have been a softcore porn shop. And frankly, I was suprised they weren’t charged with such things earlier.


19 posted on 02/03/2008 9:13:09 AM PST by MacDorcha (Do you feel that you can place full trust in your obsevations of the physical world?)
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To: XR7

All the VBPD needs to do is contact Arlen Spectors office.


20 posted on 02/03/2008 9:14:21 AM PST by G.Mason (And what is intelligence if not the craft of out-thinking our adversaries?)
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