Posted on 02/02/2008 1:29:05 PM PST by moderate_conservative
Steven Calabresi, Professor of Law at Northwestern University (http://www.law.northwestern.edu/faculty/fulltime/Calabresi/Calabresi.html) and co-founder of the premiere conservative legal organization, The Federalist Society, who previously backed Rudy has now endorsed John McCain. In an e-mail to me he explained:
I have endorsed Senator McCain and think he would be an excellent president because he is tough on foreign policy, committed to spending restraint which is the key to small government, and because he has consistently voted for good judicial nominees in tough fights like Robert Bork and Clarence Thomas. I am not troubled by his role as a member of the gang of 14 because I think the compromise he forged got us cloture on Roberts and Alito and produced three excellent lower court judges: Bill Pryor, Janice Rogers Brown, and Priscilla Owen.
Conservative legal scholar and former Solicitor General Charles Fried, another ex-Rudy supporter, also informed me that he “immediately, readily and enthusiastically switched to McCain” after Rudy dropped out.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2006/05/our_right_and_his_wrongs.html http://www.usvetdsp.com/manchuan.htm http://www.usvetdsp.com/manchuan.htm http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd59.htm http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1100262/posts http://www.usvetdsp.com/mccainpg.htm http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1829869/posts?page=1 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1951219/posts http://www.wmsa.net/People/mark_r_levin/020711_nro_mccain_hyprocrite.htm http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a38b7e6657eee.htm. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1952335/posts
Not a chance you will not find much support here. We know who McLame is, we know what he stands for: amnesty, no first amendment, Keating, and more.
McLame almost became a Democrat offically in 2001 and 2004. This guy is a liar and a cheat and WE WILL NOT BE FOOLED.
The Federalist Society likes Giuliani and McCain? Shame on them.
| Welcome to Free Republic, but you picked a really dumb name. There is no such thing as a moderate conservative. You are either a conservative or not a conservative. Conservatism is a set of core values and convictions that are logical and spiritually derived and as such can not be compromised (which is what moderate-ism is all about). I'm just saying.  |
Sounds like the Federalist Society should endorse Paul instead of the others.
Welcome. I expect your time here will be revealing as to the depths most despise your candidate here. Are you part of his campaign’s outreach?
McCrazy doesn’t even make a decent person much less a president. If you can’t tell I detest the backstabbing, nasty, self-serving POS.
Yes, I would have thought so. I’m surprised to see the Federalists supporting the two country club/Chamber of Commerce/Wall Street Journal/establishment candidates.
Are you trying to confuse the moderate with facts?
Of course there is such a thing as a moderate conservative. There are degrees of conservatism even within the conservative movement.
I don’t think these “moderate conservatives” know the damage they are about to do to the Republican Party; this nomination may wreck it.
I am totally serious. Millions of us will not vote for their slimeball.
Not with a loaded gun to our heads.
Do the McCainiacs actually think John McCain is ever going to veto anything sent him by his good buddies Russ Feingold, Ted Kennedy or John Kerry? HE AUTHORED LEGISLATION WITH TWO OF THEM AND WAS GOING TO BE THE VP CANIDATE WITH THE OTHER!
These “Party Uber Alles” types really have got to try thinking instead of emoting for a change. A politician who is 10% on your side, 90% on the other is still your enemy no matter what party label you slap on him.
No Conservative should ever consider voting for McCain. We worry the others will betray us. We know McCain will betray us. Look at his record for the last 8 years? Been nothing but betrayal and obstruction.
With any of the other candidates we have a seat at the table. We know John McCain will never listen to us on anything.
With McCain Conservatives would get maybe 10%. That would not be worth the enormous long term damage McCain would do to both the GOP and the Conservative Movement. With a McCain Administration we would have a mis- labeled “Conservative” Administration pushing Democrat Party polices while the GOP took all the political fall out of the consequences of those disastrous decisions.
Just what could Conservatives expect to get from a McCain Administration? Based on McCain’s record for the last 8 years, we could expect to get tough talk on foreign policy and spending with no real action on any issue.
Do people forget the Democrats trying to get McCain to flip party’s in Jan 2006? Forget that Dems wanted McCain as their VP candidate in 2004?
How quickly the supposed Conservatives for McCain forget McCain’s political record. From Tax-cuts to the War to Judges McCain’s whole strategy has been to be as Liberal as possible and stay in the GOP.
Politically there is very little difference between Hillary and McCain. You get minor variations on this and that issue, like abortion, but over all McCain and Clinton share the same political philosophical outlook
McCain has done nothing for the Conservative movement in 8 years. While talking a good game on spending, he has done nothing. This is particularly galling considering all the issues CFR, Judges, Immigration Anti Torture Amendment-Gang of 14 etc etc etc issues which McCain was more then willing to throw his weight behind an issues to get legislation passed.
McCain has actively worked against the Conservatives on Social issues, on the WOT, on Iraq, on Gitmo, against Rummy, on Immigration and on Judges, on Global Warming etc etc etc etc etc. McCain has far more in common with Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama then he does with any Conservative.
Funny how the Talking Heads miss this. Out of 49 Republican Senators McCain has been ranked 45th by the American Conservative Union for his voting record!
McCain would be the worse of both worlds. A mislabeled “Conservative” Administration actively advancing the Democrat Party’s agenda while knifing Conservatives in the back daily. You could even count on a McCain Administration appointing Leftist Judges in order to avoid fighting with the Democrats in the US Senate.
Tough on Foreign Policy? You think Mr “Close Gitmo and extend the same legal protections US Citizens have to the terrorists” McCain is going to have a “tough” foreign policy? The father of the Baker Commission and the plan to surrender Iraq to Iran and Syria is “strong on Foreign Policy”? Not based on his recored. The wrost thing that a McCain Administration would do is it would fracture the few remaining GOP Congress critters into pro and anti McCain factions. McCain would be the worst of all world politically for the Conservatives.
At least with a Democrat Leftist Administration, as opposed to a McCain Leftist with a GOP Label Administration, the Democrats would get all the political fall out of their disastrous political decisions and the GOP would unite in fighting them. The worst of all possible worlds for Conservatives in 2008 would be McCain getting elected Presiden
Excuse me, but this “federalist” can’t be much of a federalist if he supports McCain.
Uhmmm .... “law professor ... university”.. that explains it.
Guess the Federalists Society has gone the way of the UN — as far as the value of endorsements go these days.
And I solemnly vow that I am one who will never cast a vote for McCain, under any circumstances, no matter what.
McCain campaign workers. - vote McCain, gringo!
If you are looking for some insightful responses, you will be discouraged by a bunch of juvenile comments with stupid nicknames such as “McNasty”, “McLame”, “McHillary”, etc. etc. You will need to wade through these to get to anything of substance on the topic.
“who previously backed Rudy”
That’s all we need to know. Good bye. Mitt Romney - save us from these useful idiots for the left. Go, Mitt!!
Action speak far louder then words. An based on his actions McCain would be as weak a President as either Hillary or Obama. The only difference would be McCain’s GOP party label.
Your candidate has been accepting large donations from such left-wing progressives as Tides Foundation (George Soros), the Environmental Defense Fund, and David Geffen (Hollywood entertainement producer). McCain founded a 501 nonprofit to hide those donations. See at the following link:
http://www.reforminstitute.org
One of the major players in this organization is Dr. Juan Hernandez, a former minister in the Mexican administration of Vicente Fox. Dr. Hernandez was a fundamental player in tranferring 10% of Mexico’s poorest population into the U.S., where we now provide them with generous welfare.
After reading about Senator McCain’s think tank with its proposals for curtailing First Amendment right to Freedom of Speech, and a future North American Federation, maybe you won’t be so quick to vote for him.
The Federalist Society is confused?
Since the self-annointed "true conservatives and real Americans" at FR have been bashing top shelf feddie Ted Olson for endorsing McCain, I'm sure there will be more bashing of other feddies.
Scalia? Thomas? Alito? Roberts? Ashcroft? Its a long list since the Federalist Society is the cornerstone of the VRWC.
That was a really dumb comment. So somebody who holds 95% of the views that you believe define conservatism, but disagrees on the other 5%, is simply not a conservative?
Transferring support from one liberal to another.
God bless. We have to start working to remake the GOP or join a third party.
There is no choice this November. We have the leftwing Democrat and the rightwing Democrat.
And they call this democracy.
No. There are only people who think there are degrees of conservatism that would include moderates. Those who think that are not conservatives because they don't adhere to conservative values and convictions.
The FR forum states: As a conservative site, Free Republic is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-Constitution, pro-Bill of Rights, pro-gun, pro-limited government, pro-private property rights, pro-limited taxes, pro-capitalism, pro-national defense, pro-freedom, and-pro America. We oppose all forms of liberalism, socialism, fascism, pacifism, totalitarianism, anarchism, government enforced atheism, abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, racism, wacko environmentalism, judicial activism, etc. We also oppose the United Nations or any other world government body that may attempt to impose its will or rule over our sovereign nation and sovereign people. We believe in defending our borders, our constitution and our national sovereignty.
No moderate can make that statement, therefore they are not conservatives.
I consider allowing foreigners to invade our country with hardly a slap on the wrist for doing it to be about as weak on foreign policy as one could get.
If I remember there were 4 founders of the Federalist Society.
I highly doubt that Professor Gary Lawson is supporting McCain. Apparently while he was a law student at yale he had a bumper sticker on his briefcase “Taxation is Theft”
are degrees of conservatism
Incorrection allusion. There are degrees, of course, but they are lateral movements namely those attached to different issues, not up and out into liberal land.
Its the same thing as being the fry station manager v the burger manager.
Same pay, same place, same job, different title.
But you can always tell a Burger King from the Dairy queen.
http://www.reforminstitute.org
Well, if you are going to drag facts into this, all I can say is...
Good!
Mr. niteowl77
what is wrong with these f*^$*g people?
goodness gracious, mccain is going down worse than dole in 96.
Even if he doesn’t, he will be as bad as jimmy carter.
| I didn't say that..but if he holds 95% he is not a moderate. There is no such thing as a moderate conservative. |
No barf alert?
I further vow that you are a fool AND a tool.
Well stated position, though I disagree with it. He has come out in favor of federal funding of using unborn humans for experimentation. That's a deal breaker for me.
Added to his temperament and the uneasy feeling I get when he speaks, I am forced to a third party in November if he is the nominee.
Substance and McCain should not be in the same sentence together.
Do the McCainiacs actually think John McCain is ever going to veto anything sent him by his good buddies Russ Feingold, Ted Kennedy or John Kerry? HE AUTHORED LEGISLATION WITH TWO OF THEM AND WAS GOING TO BE THE VP CANIDATE WITH THE OTHER!
These “Party Uber Alles” types really have got to try thinking instead of emoting for a change. A politician who is 10% on your side, 90% on the other is still your enemy no matter what party label you slap on him.
No Conservative should ever consider voting for McCain. We worry the others will betray us. We know McCain will betray us. Look at his record for the last 8 years? Been nothing but betrayal and obstruction.
With any of the other candidates we have a seat at the table. We know John McCain will never listen to us on anything.
With McCain Conservatives would get maybe 10%. That would not be worth the enormous long term damage McCain would do to both the GOP and the Conservative Movement. With a McCain Administration we would have a mis- labeled “Conservative” Administration pushing Democrat Party polices while the GOP took all the political fall out of the consequences of those disastrous decisions.
Just what could Conservatives expect to get from a McCain Administration? Based on McCain’s record for the last 8 years, we could expect to get tough talk on foreign policy and spending with no real action on any issue.
Do people forget the Democrats trying to get McCain to flip party’s in Jan 2006? Forget that Dems wanted McCain as their VP candidate in 2004?
How quickly the supposed Conservatives for McCain forget McCain’s political record. From Tax-cuts to the War to Judges McCain’s whole strategy has been to be as Liberal as possible and stay in the GOP.
Politically there is very little difference between Hillary and McCain. You get minor variations on this and that issue, like abortion, but over all McCain and Clinton share the same political philosophical outlook
McCain has done nothing for the Conservative movement in 8 years. While talking a good game on spending, he has done nothing. This is particularly galling considering all the issues CFR, Judges, Immigration Anti Torture Amendment-Gang of 14 etc etc etc issues which McCain was more then willing to throw his weight behind an issues to get legislation passed.
McCain has actively worked against the Conservatives on Social issues, on the WOT, on Iraq, on Gitmo, against Rummy, on Immigration and on Judges, on Global Warming etc etc etc etc etc. McCain has far more in common with Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama then he does with any Conservative.
Funny how the Talking Heads miss this. Out of 49 Republican Senators McCain has been ranked 45th by the American Conservative Union for his voting record!
McCain would be the worse of both worlds. A mislabeled “Conservative” Administration actively advancing the Democrat Party’s agenda while knifing Conservatives in the back daily. You could even count on a McCain Administration appointing Leftist Judges in order to avoid fighting with the Democrats in the US Senate.
Tough on Foreign Policy? You think Mr “Close Gitmo and extend the same legal protections US Citizens have to the terrorists” McCain is going to have a “tough” foreign policy? The father of the Baker Commission and the plan to surrender Iraq to Iran and Syria is “strong on Foreign Policy”? Not based on his recored. The wrost thing that a McCain Administration would do is it would fracture the few remaining GOP Congress critters into pro and anti McCain factions. McCain would be the worst of all world politically for the Conservatives.
At least with a Democrat Leftist Administration, as opposed to a McCain Leftist with a GOP Label Administration, the Democrats would get all the political fall out of their disastrous political decisions and the GOP would unite in fighting them. The worst of all possible worlds for Conservatives in 2008 would be McCain getting elected Presiden
ooh, that one hurt! /s/
I would vote for McCain under these conditions:
1. Immediate legislation to repeal McCain - Feingold submitted by McCain
2. Immediate legislation to repeal McCain - Lieberman submitted by McCain
3. Fully commit in writing to build the border fence before even thinking about debating amnesty
4. Pick an actually conservative for V.P.
5. Not run for re-election in 2012
6. Full disclosure of all medication he is currently taking to control his nasty mean temper
If he will do that, he's got my vote.
Heck, after stabbing conservatives in the back for years, it isn't to much to ask, is it?
These McCain supporters don’t need no stinking facts!
Tough on foreign affairs??? Let’s see, close GITMO and open our borders? And as far as being a moderate conservative, I am so sick of that phrase, you are either conservative or not. Sorry, but I am having a bad day with what is going on in my party. This is the first election in 50 years that depresses me. It is a sad time.
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