Posted on 01/30/2008 11:28:35 AM PST by Mr. Silverback
Not so fast, Chuck: Nobel Peace Prize? No Connection Between Environmental Crises And Armed Conflict, According To New Study
Before posting this I read the environmental section of the "For the Health of the Nation" statement. Good news: The text is consistent with conservationism (as opposed to the misanthropy and hysteria of environmentalism) and reads like something the Boy Scouts, not the Sierra Club, would offer on the subject. The bad news is, no specific rejection of the global warming con, which would have been true leadership, IMHO.
There are links to further information at the source document.
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There is a misanthropic strain in modern environmentalism.
***Good writing, but just a tad too much understatement.
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I agree wholeheartedly. This stuff is also from a post at the Junk Science Blog:
Isnt the only hope for the planet that the industrialised civilizations collapse? Isnt it our responsibility to bring that about? Maurice Strong, head of the 1992 Earth Summit in Rio de Janeiro and Executive Officer for Reform in the Office of the Secretary General of the United Nations.
A massive campaign must be launched to de-develop the United States. De-development means bringing our economic system (especially patterns of consumption) into line with the realities of ecology and the world resource situation. Paul Ehrlich and Anne H. Ehrlich, Population, Resources, Environment (W.H. Freeman, San Francisco, 1970, 323)
If you ask me, itd be little short of disastrous for us to discover a source of clean, cheap, abundant energy because of what we would do with it. We ought to be looking for energy sources that are adequate for our needs, but that wont give us the excesses of concentrated energy with which we could do mischief to the earth or to each other. Amory Lovins, The Mother Earth - Plowboy Interview, Nov/Dec 1977, p. 22
Giving society cheap, abundant energy would be the equivalent of giving an idiot child a machine gun. Paul Ehrlich, An Ecologists Perspective on Nuclear Power, May/June 1978 issue of Federation of American Scientists Public Issue Report.
We cant let other countries have the same number of cars, the same industrialization, we have in the U.S. We have to stop these Third World countries right where they are. Michael Oppenheimer, Princeton University. He joined the Princeton faculty after more than two decades with Environmental Defense, is a long-time participant in the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), serving most recently as a lead author of the IPCCs Fourth Assessment Report.
Weve already had too much economic growth in the US. Economic growth in rich countries like ours is the disease, not the cure. Ehrlich again.
The planet is about to break out with fever, indeed it may already have, and we [human beings] are the disease. We should be at war with ourselves and our lifestyles. Thomas Lovejoy, assistant secretary to the Smithsonian Institution.
The only real good technology is no technology at all. Technology is taxation without representation, imposed by our elitist species (man) upon the rest of the natural world. John Shuttleworth, FoE manual writer.
People are the cause of all the problems; we have too many of them; we need to get rid of some of them, and this (ban of DDT) is as good a way as any. Charles Wurster, Environmental Defense Fund.
We can and should seize upon the energy crisis as a good excuse and great opportunity for making some very fundamental changes that we should be making anyhow for other reasons. Russell Train (EPA Administrator at the time, and soon thereafter became head of the World Wildlife Fund), Science 184 p. 1050, 7 June 1974
The world has a cancer, and that cancer is man. Alan Gregg, former longtime official of the Rockerfeller Foundation
Man is always and everywhere a blight on the landscape. John Muir, founder of the Sierra Club
Phasing out the human race will solve every problem on earth, social and environmental. Dave Forman, Earth First! and Sierra Club director (1995-1997)
Human beings, as a species, have no more value than slugs. John Davis, editor of Earth First! journal
We have to get rid of that warm medieval period. Jonathan Overpeck, a Professor at U of Arizona and IPCC Lead Author in an email to David Deming, a professor at U of Oklahoma.
No matter if the science is all phony, there are collateral environmental benefits . climate change provides the greatest chance to bring about justice and equality in the world. Christine Stewart, Canadian Environment Minister, Calgary Herald 14 Dec, 1998.
Source: http://junkscience.com/blog_js/2007/12/30/hatred-of-people-and-the-subversion-of-climate-science/
the modern environmentalism is the hiding place for todays socialists/communists.
Controversial? I should hope the Pope would talk as if Christianity were true!
If he doesn't believe it to be so, he should not be serving as a cleric. Heck, I think all Christians ought to live every aspect of their lives from such a perspective (not that we always do).
Would it help if we killed all the liberals? That would reduce the population by about 30%.< /sarc >
Well, Mr. Forman, if you really believe that, put your money where you're mouth is and let's get started - Do yourself in today. Oh, what you really meant was phasing out other people. OK, got ya, now I understand.
Per the culture and public schools, the dominant level of understanding of secular thought and philosophy is relatively high, while the dominant level of understanding of Christianity is mostly stunted to the eight-year old level.
What other attitude would you expect the public to take as a result?
It took myself a long time to discover that vast body of thought expressed by great Christian thinkers -- something you will rarely find in our culture unless you look for it. Rather popular culture views the super televangelist send-in-your-money-so-God-can-bless-you types as being among the brightest and best Christianity offers. Yuck!
If all those “experts” are so convinced that mankind is killing the environment and should be reduced in population, why don’t they start by killing themselves?
I don’t think colson was saying that it’s remarkable that the Pope spoke as a real christian, I think he’s saying that acting like Christianity is reaal is a source of controversy for the chattering classes.
I’m aware of that badge, my son earned it this summer.
Though I would prefer Mr. Forman repents, I would like to note the following: I priced shotgun ammo the other day, and it’s pretty cheap. He could turn his brain into a pink mist for mere pennies, and if he picks the right model shotgun, it could even be recycled at a scrap yard after he’s done with it.
Though I would prefer Mr. Forman repents, I would like to note the following: I priced shotgun ammo the other day, and it’s pretty cheap. He could turn his brain into a pink mist for mere pennies, and if he picks the right model shotgun, it could even be recycled at a scrap yard after he’s done with it.
Some animals are more equal than others.
Sorry to break in off-topic:
You’ve gotta see this...
http://www.nbc10.com/news/15176405/detail.html?dl=headlineclick
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