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Buyers Beware: Current Blu-ray Players Won't Correctly Play Future Discs (HDTV)
The Consumerist ^ | 1/12/08

Posted on 01/12/2008 11:34:47 AM PST by LibWhacker

Look, it will play *something*, just buy it already. After the past week, it seems more and more likely that Blu-ray will be the movie disc format of the future. But with the exception of the Playstation 3, current Blu-ray disc players were built without future-compatibility capabilities, so come this October owners won't be able to take advantage of features like Internet connectivity or enhanced interactivity (whatever that means—details are sketchy). "One key Blu-ray developer told BetaNews that although he builds discs for studios including Fox and Lionsgate, he did not buy a Blu-ray player for personal use." Regarding current Blu-ray player owners, Blu-ray developers told BetaNews, "They knew what they were getting into."

Representatives at the Blu-ray booth at CES told BetaNews that the PlayStation 3 is currently the only player they would recommend, due to upcoming changes to the platform. But Pioneer, Samsung, Panasonic and Sony have all been selling standalone Blu-ray players to customers.

So here's how it's going to work: current players are Profile 1.0, and can play future hi-def discs but no bonus stuff. Profile 1.1 dics will include additional bonus material that won't play on 1.0 players—these discs will have a "Bonus View" sticker. Come October, Profile 2 capability will come to the market, which includes Internet activity, but only on Profile 2.0 players—these discs will have a "BD Live" sticker.

When asked why current players were released to the market when in such a primitive state, manufacturers blamed the release of HD DVD and said it forced them to come to market too soon. "We should have waited another year to introduce Blu-ray to the public, but the format war changed the situation." Okay, well how about we just don't buy any Blu-ray players for a while (not counting the PS3) until you guys decide to get your act together?


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Not quite as ridiculous as saying, "Buyer Beware: Today's products will not be compatible with tomorrow's products." The way I read this... If you're going to buy a Profile 1.0 player, you can save a little money on disks by not buying the more costly bonus sets.
1 posted on 01/12/2008 11:34:49 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: Las Vegas Dave

ping


2 posted on 01/12/2008 11:35:55 AM PST by LibWhacker (Democrats are phony Americans)
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To: LibWhacker

No worries; they’ll give you a screamin’ trade-in deal for a VHS unit...;^)


3 posted on 01/12/2008 11:36:33 AM PST by randog (What the...?!)
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To: randog

Great. I can trade my 8-track player in on a VHS player - send me that address would ya?


4 posted on 01/12/2008 11:44:48 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: LibWhacker

I thought the higher-end players were going to be compatible.


5 posted on 01/12/2008 11:45:51 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: LibWhacker

I’m not too interested in Blue-Ray yet. My current DVDs work just fine on my HDTV set. I will buy into the next generation technology when it has proven itself viable. Maybe I will just buy something from China that supports everything later. lol


6 posted on 01/12/2008 11:50:37 AM PST by Maelstorm (Let the Fredvolution begin!)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

As long as the player has at least an Ethernet port, it should be upgradable.


7 posted on 01/12/2008 11:51:40 AM PST by ECM (Government is a make-work program for lawyers.)
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To: LibWhacker
it seems more and more likely that Blu-ray will be the movie disc format of the future.

This is like saying that Acme brand buggy whips will be the horse drawn carriage accessory of the future. Digital downloads will be the viewing format of the future, no matter how hard the studios work to lock down content - the era of big media controlling viewing formats is drawing to a close.
8 posted on 01/12/2008 11:52:16 AM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: LibWhacker

Now I’m confused.


9 posted on 01/12/2008 11:52:58 AM PST by Road Warrior ‘04 (Officially Fredbacker1 but don't know how to change my name)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Because of the format the whole operation is heavily dependent on software unlike regular DVD players, its almost like looking at the two as Windows vs. Linux, or like what is on the store shelves now is Windows 95 and the future Bluray discs will be 98, XP, Vista etc.

Bottom line is that its too buggy even the high dollars players require a periodic download. I am staying away from the whole mess and I am perfectly happy with my up converting 1080P regular DVD player.


10 posted on 01/12/2008 11:54:13 AM PST by Eye of Unk
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To: LibWhacker

Better yet, just wait another year before buying anything, then buy the new stuff that makes all the current stuff obsolete.
Then you’ll at least be ahead of the game for about a year before that stuff becomes obsolete, but at least you’ll have saved a few bucks and some space at the local landfill.


11 posted on 01/12/2008 11:55:00 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

There are two video markets. The rental market will be taken over by downloads, but the purchase market will continue to use discs.

Full quality HD movies run anywhere from 20 - 50 gigs. That means that a 500 gig drive will hold somewhere from 10 - 25 movies — assuming the drive doesn’t crash and you lose all your heavily DRM’d movies. Optical disks are cheap, can be purchased at stores and don’t take any special technical knowledge.


12 posted on 01/12/2008 11:57:25 AM PST by MediaMole
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To: LibWhacker; ADemocratNoMore; advertising guy; AJMaXx; Alice in Wonderland; american colleen; ...
Thanks to LibWacker for the ping...

Pinging the HDTV list..

HDTV pings

13 posted on 01/12/2008 11:58:20 AM PST by Las Vegas Dave ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." Hillary Clinton, June 2004.)
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To: Maelstorm

My old DVDs look okay on the HDTV, but they weren’t too crisp. My Blue Ray displays them as if they were HiDef. They really look nice.


14 posted on 01/12/2008 11:58:22 AM PST by DoughtyOne (< fence >< sound immigration policies >< /weasles >< /RINOs >< /Reagan wannabees that are liberal >)
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To: Izzy Dunne

I have a beta unit, still like new, hardly used. I already have an 8 track player though.


15 posted on 01/12/2008 11:58:55 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: LibWhacker

This writer seems to want to pick holes in Blue Ray. He’s not even sure what will be available in October, but he’s absolutely sure my Blue Ray player won’t work.

Hog wash. Even if so, he should come back and tell us when he knows what the hell he’s talking about specifically.


16 posted on 01/12/2008 12:00:26 PM PST by DoughtyOne (< fence >< sound immigration policies >< /weasles >< /RINOs >< /Reagan wannabees that are liberal >)
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To: LibWhacker

Na, I’m skipping this gen of recorded material. I may jump on the next one if there is a clear winner, but I don’t wanna be the guy with the Betamax this time around.


17 posted on 01/12/2008 12:01:51 PM PST by Hexenhammer
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To: LibWhacker
I guess the concept of a firmware upgrade is just too much for the author to handle. ;)

And by the time any new features that require more than a firmware upgrade become "must-haves", players will have become so cheap that buying a new one will not really be an issue (except to that certain type of Luddite crank who is still using the rabbit ears on his 1967 Magnavox black-and-white TV and sees no reason to upgrade...)

18 posted on 01/12/2008 12:03:26 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
Digital downloads will be the viewing format of the future

Just because CES believes that doesn't make it so. Physical media will be with us for a long, long time.

A more correct statement is that optical discs are on their way out. HD-DVD/Blu-Ray will probably be the last generation of consumer-grade optical media for purposes of movies.

I can see movies being distributed on Flash cards just as soon as either compression formats improve significantly or the per-GB cost of a Flash chip comes down a few dozen bucks.

Large-scale digital streaming is a fantasy. Hard drives don't have the storage space and no one has the bandwidth to run a truly mass-scale operation like that. Not to mention that not "everything" will be streaming. What if I like the movies of an independent Icelandic director? Will Comcast offer his movies? I highly doubt it.
19 posted on 01/12/2008 12:04:46 PM PST by Terpfen (It's your fault, not Pelosi's.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
I guess the concept of a firmware upgrade is just too much for the author to handle. ;)

Profile 2.0 is incompatible with current players, with the possible exception of the PS3.

It's not a matter of a firmware upgrade. It's a matter of the firmware upgrade needing new hardware.
20 posted on 01/12/2008 12:05:40 PM PST by Terpfen (It's your fault, not Pelosi's.)
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