Posted on 01/06/2008 9:55:39 PM PST by kcvl
Yep,
There is a new show coming on that looks good called “How to Look Good Naked”.
It’s more about self-esteem etc than fashion and weight loss, which is the bottom line.
You can have a frantic, gotta stay small, gotta diet, gotta exercise size 4 with far less self-esteem than a “life is good, I’m going to take care of myself and be OK with how I look right now” size 14.
No surprise that many (here) would comment about the model pictured (too thin) yet would call the VMA Britney Spears or Jennifer Love Hewitt (recent bikini photo) ‘fat.’
No happy ‘medium.’
There is too much obcession on looks/weight.
It’s what I call “Micro-looking”-—
with JLH it was “her butt is lumpy, her thighs are out of shape” etc.
Reminds me of folks who count the poppy seeds on the top of their muffin. Makes the person making the comments sound like they can’t stand one hair out of place or a single piece of lint on a suit.
That’s not fat. It is a fair observation, I think, that she’s not as toned as she once was — who among us is? She bore two kids in two years, and doesn’t get the workout she used to when she was touring all the time.
That’s not fat. It is a fair observation, I think, that she’s not as toned as she once was — who among us is? She bore two kids in two years, and doesn’t get the workout she used to when she was touring all the time.
Women’s sizes are really subjective, a size 6 in one store is a size 8 or 10 in another store.
I was just teasing you, Tamar. Didn’t you catch the “; >” ?
I do not know if it is true, but there are reports that hospitals are seeing an upsurge in anorexia in the last few months.
I don’t blame Madison Avenue so much as many do, I suspect something more than that.
Good points, all. Obesity among the poor and working class comes from a combination of factors:
1) Time. More affluent folks have more of it, and cooking elaborate multi-course meals at home is really trendy now. I don’t have the numbers at hand, but I’d bet the Food Network has one of the most affluent audiences on cable, right behind Bloomberg, MSNBC and Fox Business.
2) Access. Poor neighborhoods have crappy little grocery stores, in the inner city often barely more than a convenience store or a corner bodega. If you don’t have a car, you’re stuck with high prices and a limited selection.
3) Education. A lot of poor and working-class folks aren’t the first generation to occupy that socioeconomic stratum. If you were raised by a single mom who spent her time working and didn’t have time to cook, you never learned it. It is actually posible to make healthy meals in little time for little money, if you know how; pasta with a marinara or meat sauce, beans and rice with tomatoes and onions, perfectly good eats that cost next to nothing.
What I’d like to see is churches or other community groups sponsoring cooking circles. Get seven families together, and a member of one family can cook dinner for all seven one night a week. More families means more volunteer cooks at a time or a longer time between turns in the rotation.
Volunteers’ cars or a church van can be used to pick up the ingredients and deliver the meals, which could be cooked in the church’s kitchen; most churches have a big enough kitchen to handle the volume. Church volunteers could also supervise the cooking and teach cooking techniques.
Might be a reaction to the pressure to eat lots of food during the Thanksgiving/Hanukkah/Christmas holidays. Most of the traditional foods are not particularly healthy. Even the stuff that is healthy we are encourage to eat in unhealthy proportions. LOL!
But even that is weird (the ‘in shape and toned’). Women for centuries have been healthy, worked hard etc and been SOFT and not super toned. A soft tummy is well, what women have.
That is one of the issues behind all this. Even normal, soft and sexy is viewed as ‘out of shape’ or ‘not toned’.
Toned is not a sign of health. It’s overkill on a female body.
The RD’s in our community tried something like that and we learned something very profound.
When you are poor, FOOD is your last luxury, your last comfort, your cheap pampering. It’s what you do when you have free time— cook a big ole pot o greens with ham hocks, fry chicken, make mac and cheese from scratch, make really good cornbread and a red velvet cake. Get on the phone and call your sister and her family over.
It’s more than food....its history, family, affection, comfort etc all rolled into one. And you have 30 family members all coming over to eat, bringing their best stuff. “Healthy” to most still means “their food”. IOW, not tasty, what snobs eat and too expensive. And not at all comforting.
Honestly, we got bitchslapped big time. We offered this super super cheap event of “How to cook healthy” meal make-over where we took all those traditional foods and redid them so they were ‘healthy’. With a chef...with prizes...with free diet ed and a food samplings!!
The only folks that came were-— you have it: Super thin upper class folks who were already obsessive about food and health.
When najida is right he/she is right. And he/she is right on this point about food being a last luxury for the poor and working class.
Bingo!
*DING DING DING*
We have a winner!
I assume that picture is from a 3rd world country in the midst of a famine ?
She looks sick !
I'm no expert, but the rule of thumb I've heard is that the more expensive the clothes, the smaller the number on the label. One of the things expensive boutiques do to win customers is flatter them.
Thank you.
I wanted to post and ask for prayeys before she died but just didn’t have the heart. It’s a long and painful story. The circumstances were so strange-she had a myxoma-a benign tumor inside the heart-very rare, and relatively undetectable until it breaks loose and causes major problems elswhere. This happened while her and my father were out in the Gulf, on a cruise ship that had an engine fire of all things, and she had a total blockage of her rt. femoral artery for almost 13 hours before they could get her to an adequate medical facility. She had two chest surgeries(one was open heart to remove the rest of the tumor) and 3 more on the leg. She then went septic, had renal failure, her B/P wouldn’t stay up-finally after 14 days my father decided she’d had enough. There’s about a book’s worth of other stuff in between all that above.
Mom and Dad would have been married for 51 years next April. He’s doing OK considering. I’m still just numb. Everyone keeps saying time will help but I can’t see how right now. Thanks again to both of you for your kind thoughts,
Greg
That has already happened from 40 years ago. My wedding dress was a size 12 in 1967. Our youngest daughter wore it at her wedding in 1997 and was a size 2. It was tight on her. So that size 12 is now not even a size 2. Good Lord! How that sounds! LOL A size 2 is what a toddler wears - not a grown woman.
I was thinking the same thing. I went to an agent who really wanted to use me in print ads for plus sizes.
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