New Route For Heredity Bypasses DNA

ScienceDaily ^ | (Jan. 4, 2008) | ScienceDaily(Princeton University)

[Maelstorm]

I've suspected this. This shows once again how over simplified evolutionary biologists have presented evolution. The mechanisms involved are more radically more complex than random mutation and natural selection alone. Epigenetics is where the future is.

It is epigenetics that separates mice, men, and apes. We can tell by simple analysis that human beings, mice, and apes are not 99% the same. It is a myth. Also it turns out there are significant errors in the published DNA sequences as well as errors in the programs used compare sequences resulting in an error which was assuming that similar sequences were more likely to be correct and ignoring those which were not. Also the published comparisons were based only on a comparison of a small subset of the genomes. We now know that even small differences 1.44% results in changes to as much as 80% of amino acid sequences. Also there is the interesting discovery of Denova genes which appear to not come from any known existing genes.

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn5044 http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/07/070723160028.htm

The genie isn't staying in the box and its a genie bigger than anyone anticipated.

[BipolarBob]

Hurray!!! This is good news. Forget the triple heart bypass surgery and get the new improved genetic bypass surgery.

[Kevmo]

bmflr, fascinating

[NutCrackerBoy]

Manipulating offspring phenotypes according to a “scouting report” of life-supporting conditions is a mechanism known to exist in early life on Earth. It should be surprising if that kind of adaption had been obsoleted by pure DNA combination.

[elephantlips]

Wow! By that explanation of Giraffes, I am surprised there aren’t more “porn stars.”

[sourcery]

Wow! By that explanation of Giraffes, I am surprised there aren’t more “porn stars.”

You are, of course, referring to "deep throat." ;)

[elli1]

later

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Careful now,... this is a family friendly website.

[metmom]

Princeton biologists Laura Landweber, Mariusz Nowacki and Vikram Vijayan, together with other members of the lab, wanted to decipher how the cell accomplished this feat, which required reorganizing its genome without resorting to its original genetic program.

So a cell could reorganize itself? Whatever happened to random mutation and natural selection?

This is almost enough to make you wonder if it wasn't programmed to do this. Or if a cell could meddle with things, why not something far more intelligent and powerful?

[pankot]

Phony science. Tin foil hats on—the Communists and Socialists tried to spread this c**p years ago for political reasons.

[neverdem]

Thanks, Happy New Year!

[Maelstorm]

I don’t know, all I know as I have for some time that those cells are more advanced than anything we have created yet or will create in the near future. They have complex messaging and error correction systems and layer upon layer of epigenetic control logic. We have only scratched the surface what is there buried in DNA and RNA.

[chaos_5]

interesting...

[Lucius Cornelius Sulla]

Whatever happened to random mutation and natural selection?

The evolutionary theories of Jean-Baptiste Lamarck (1744-1829) preceeded Darwin's natural selection by more than 50 years. Surely you aren't one of those who thought Darwin was the first to conceive of the idea of evolution, are you?

[js1138]

Good thing these guys escaped the Darwin death squad, the one dedicated to preventing real research from getting published.

[SunkenCiv]

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[shuckmaster]

This shows once again how over simplified evolutionary biologists have presented evolution.

They still haven't simplified it enough for too many here to understand it.

[samtheman]

They left off the subtitle:

Stalin Vindicated!

[grey_whiskers]

Coyote, I didn't see this whilst surfing TOS earlier.

Perhaps you could do the honors?

Cheers!

[editor-surveyor]

"What's more, this mechanism could represent an "epigenetic" pathway -- a route that bypasses an organism's normal DNA genetic program -- for so-called Lamarckian evolution..."

It appears that reality may have slammed the evos upside their little heads.

The fact that DNA effectively prevents the kind of nonsense that evolution would require seems to have suddenly sunk in. Now they are searching for ways to circumvent DNA's built-in protection? Lotsa luck chumps!