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Hawkins seeks ban on payday lenders
Spartanburg Herald-Journal ^ | Sunday, December 30, 2007 | Robert W. Dalton

Posted on 12/30/2007 2:36:27 PM PST by VRWCtaz

Hawkins seeks ban on payday lenders By Robert W. Dalton Published: Sunday, December 30, 2007

State Sen. John Hawkins is abandoning his efforts to impose stronger regulations on payday lenders.

Instead, Hawkins wants to outlaw the industry in South Carolina.

"They're making far too much money to accept any meaningful regulations," said Hawkins, R-Spartanburg. "I've come to realize they are similar to video poker in that regard, and they've used every trick in the book to fight real regulations."

Hawkins - one of several attorneys who have filed suit against payday lenders claiming they knowingly make loans to people who lack the ability to repay them - said he will introduce legislation in January aimed at phasing out the industry.

Jamie Fulmer, director of investor relations for Spartanburg-based Advance America Cash Advance Centers, said the dual roles that Hawkins and the other attorneys are playing create an "interesting dilemma."

"When you are seeking to ban an industry as a legislator and have a pending lawsuit against companies that are operating lawfully, I just don't know how to draw that line," Fulmer said.

"It puts our company in an awkward position, and it puts the people of South Carolina in an awkward position."

Hawkins, however, said there is no conflict. He said his duties as a lawmaker and his duties representing his client are totally separate.

"I'm not going to set aside my Senate role just because I'm involved in a lawsuit brought by people who have been harmed by these companies," Hawkins said. "I'm comfortable with my actions. Are they comfortable getting rich off the backs of the working poor?"

Does industry help or hurt?

Payday lenders provide short-term loans, usually for two weeks, and usually charge $15 for every $100 borrowed. The maximum loan is $300, so the payback is $345.

Industry critics say the annualized interest rate, nearly 400 percent, is too high a price to pay, and that too many people get trapped in a cycle of borrowing more to pay off previous loans.

Supporters say the industry provides emergency cash for people who would have trouble getting it elsewhere. They point out that bounced check fees, if annualized, would be nearly 1,000 percent.

Sen. Robert Ford, D-Charleston, introduced a bill last session to ban payday loans. Hawkins worked out a compromise bill that would have required lenders to enter the names of customers into a database to ensure that a person didn't take out multiple loans, raised the maximum loan to $400 while capping the number of loans a customer could receive at five per year, and implemented a seven-day cooling-off period between paying off one loan and receiving another.

Hawkins said he abandoned that strategy, however, because of industry resistance and because he feared Gov. Mark Sanford would veto the bill.

"You've got a governor who has climbed on board with the payday lenders using free-market reforms as his reasoning," Hawkins said. "I'm certain he would veto a bill imposing more regulations based on that ideological basis."

Sanford spokesman Joel Sawyer said Sanford would give fair consideration to any bill that crosses his desk. But he said Sanford favors giving consumers information over placing additional restrictions on lenders.

Fulmer said industry representatives tried working with lawmakers to implement "reasonable" regulations that benefited the companies and protected customers who might misuse the service. Banning the industry would not be in the best interest of people who needed short-term loans and had nowhere else to turn, he said.

"If you eliminate the product, you aren't eliminating the need for the product," Fulmer said. "That does nothing to solve the problem."

Issue hits close to home

Rep. Harold Mitchell, D-Spartanburg, and Sen. Glenn Reese, D-Boiling Springs, represent the area in which Advance America is headquartered. They say it's unfair to go after payday lenders without taking a look at the fees charged by banks, credit card companies and title loan companies.

"It's obvious there are problems across the board," Mitchell said. "I'm not going to single out companies like Advance America and give a pass to these other institutions."

Reese said he plans to introduce a compromise bill centered on the Community Financial Services Association of America's "best practices" guidelines. Such legislation, he said, would eliminate the potential for abuse.

"The center of the payday lending world is in my district," Reese said. "I'm going to do my best to get everybody to the table and get a bill that includes the best practices so the industry survives and remains viable, and works for the people who need it."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: paydayloans; usury
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I would be the last person to defend the wisdom of a payday loan. That said, nanny-state efforts to protect us from such loans leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I'm interested to see my fellow FReeper's views on this.
1 posted on 12/30/2007 2:36:30 PM PST by VRWCtaz
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To: VRWCtaz

Translation: I’m not getting my kickback!


2 posted on 12/30/2007 2:42:50 PM PST by proudofthesouth (Liberalism IS a mental illness.)
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To: VRWCtaz

Payday lenders are scum, but the upside is that they take the small-loan business away from the mob.


3 posted on 12/30/2007 2:43:55 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (Is human activity causing the warming trend on Mars?)
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To: VRWCtaz

I have never used one, and it seems to me that I would be paying more for a payday loan than I would for any late fee for any bill that I would use the payday money for. I would like to see a large sample of people who use these loans, why they use them, and what alternatives they have.


4 posted on 12/30/2007 2:43:56 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: VRWCtaz

1. Require clear disclosure adequate to explain the terms to any competent borrower.

2. If they’re not competent to understand this, they’re not competent to vote.


5 posted on 12/30/2007 2:44:53 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed ("We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them, I won't chip away at them" -Mitt Romney)
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To: VRWCtaz

I’d let you know my views, but it wouldn’t help, since they’re the same as yours. ;)

On a related note are the check cashing services, that charge rates of 10% or more. If one has reason not to open a bank, credit union, or S&L account, then I guess it is just the price they have to pay...same as for those who want the money NOW, instead of waiting for their tax refunds to arrive.

Fools and money; even Solomon had things to say about them 3,000 years ago. Still true today, the only difference being a greater number of fools in the world.


6 posted on 12/30/2007 2:45:26 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (If you can sell it, someone will steal it to sell.)
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To: VRWCtaz
I do not see that payday loans or credit cards are any different than loan sharks minus the physical intimation. Should we regulate them? Are we our brothers keeper? I see them as predatory and I would mind seeing them out of business. The stores are an eye sore to any community.
7 posted on 12/30/2007 2:45:49 PM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: VRWCtaz

Hi, I’m stupid. Please, Mr. Government, protect me from myself!


8 posted on 12/30/2007 2:46:56 PM PST by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: proudofthesouth
It’s interesting that video poker was mentioned. Their “kickback” is what I’ve always thought was at the heart of that issue as well.
9 posted on 12/30/2007 2:48:25 PM PST by VRWCtaz (You're not just seeing things if you can get others to see them too. Now about the voices...)
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The best thing the military can do is educate the troops on these dirtbags. I don’t like nanny statism but I also loathe predators like payday lenders.
10 posted on 12/30/2007 2:48:56 PM PST by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Democrats spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: VRWCtaz
lenders claiming they knowingly make loans to people who lack the ability to repay them

Sounds like some mortgage companies I've heard of. Oh, you can afford it now, don't worry. Please don't notice the increased rates and balloon payment around the corner.

11 posted on 12/30/2007 2:50:54 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: VRWCtaz
The Nanny State marches on.


12 posted on 12/30/2007 2:51:28 PM PST by Bon mots
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To: Squawk 8888
"Payday lenders are scum..."

I don't see that. As long as they have full disclosure and adhere to all regulations, it's no more of a "scummy" operation than say, a state run lottery.

13 posted on 12/30/2007 2:53:02 PM PST by VRWCtaz (You're not just seeing things if you can get others to see them too. Now about the voices...)
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To: VRWCtaz

You just can’t legislate stupid out of people.


14 posted on 12/30/2007 2:54:00 PM PST by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: VRWCtaz

I had to help someone get out of the cycle so I’m biased but I don’t think the government has any “interest” here which is probably what this is all about.


15 posted on 12/30/2007 2:54:09 PM PST by CindyDawg (.)
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To: AlaskaErik
The best thing the military can do is educate the troops on these dirtbags.

The military has a much more powerful weapon. Any post commander can declare all pay day loan companies off-limits. It's as simple as that. Soldiers with problems can be referred to Army Community Services, which can not only give emergency loans, but also counsel the soldiers in financial management.

16 posted on 12/30/2007 2:54:49 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: VRWCtaz
I'm not usually in favor of increased regulation, but I feel the public should be protected from fiscal irresponsibility - from dim-witted fools who routinely spend more than their income and borrow the difference, dooming their children to eventual servitude.

Hey, I just described the US Congress; maybe we should ban that too.

17 posted on 12/30/2007 2:55:04 PM PST by ZOOKER ( Support global warming ... we midwesterners need a coastline too!)
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To: VRWCtaz

Who puts a gun to people’s heads and forces them to use these payday lenders?


18 posted on 12/30/2007 2:55:07 PM PST by dfwgator (11+7+15=3 Heismans)
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To: VRWCtaz
"They're making far too much money to accept any meaningful regulations,"

What has happened to the Republican party?

19 posted on 12/30/2007 2:56:10 PM PST by antinomian (Show me a robber baron and I'll show you a pocket full of senators.)
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To: Vince Ferrer
I would like to see a large sample of people who use these loans,

People with an IQ less than 90

why they use them,

To purchase things they don't need (alcohol, lottery tickets, etc.)

and what alternatives they have.

Thievery

20 posted on 12/30/2007 2:56:50 PM PST by NittanyLion
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