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NY: Plan would let seniors work to pay taxes
AP on Yahoo ^ | 12/25/07 | Jim Fitzgerald - ap

Posted on 12/25/2007 10:53:22 AM PST by NormsRevenge

GREENBURGH, N.Y. - Audrey Davison lives alone, gets a $620 Social Security check each month and worries about the sharply rising taxes on her four-bedroom house. Davison, 76, raised her family there and after 43 years, she really doesn't want to leave Greenburgh.

Greenburgh doesn't want her to leave, either.

The town is pushing a program that would let seniors work part-time, for $7 an hour, to help pay off some of their property taxes.

"People shouldn't have to sell their house, move away to a place with less taxes, leave behind their family and friends," said Town Supervisor Paul Feiner.

He envisions retired doctors mentoring schoolchildren, retired accountants helping with the town's finances, retired lawyers offering their services for a discount. But there are plenty of less-skilled jobs that need doing, he said.

"It's not like we're going to see grandma running the snowplow," he said. "There are lots of things people can do for the town and it wouldn't cost us that much to pay them."

The proposal has caused a stir in Greenburgh, a town of 90,000 in Westchester County, which has the nation's third-highest homeowner property taxes. The plan would be unusual if not unique in New York, but similar programs are considered successes in Colorado, Massachusetts, South Carolina and elsewhere.

Davison, who suffers from arthritis and sciatica and needs a walker to get around on her bad days, said she pays about $12,000 a year in property taxes — perhaps $2,000 to the town — and has already taken out a reverse mortgage to pay her bills.

Talking to Feiner last week at the town senior center, she said, "I would work as long as it was a job where I could sit."

"You could be a receptionist!" Feiner said. "You could greet people right here, when they come in."

"That I would love," Davison said.

Scott Parkin, spokesman for the National Council on Aging, said the program sounded interesting, as long as it wasn't limited to menial work. "It's certainly in line with what we stand for, keeping seniors involved in work or volunteering as a part of healthy aging," he said.

Boulder County, Colo., pioneered a tax workoff program in 1986 for residents over 60 and now has about 250 applicants for the fewer than 100 openings, said spokeswoman Barbara Halpin. The work done by the seniors includes landscaping, gathering climate data, clipping newspapers and staffing the courthouse information booth.

"Taxes aren't that high out here, so even at $7 an hour people can burn off their county taxes pretty quickly," Halpin said. She added that many stay in the program as volunteers after paying off their taxes.

In Concord, Mass., Maria Casey of the personnel department said about 10 seniors get $8.50 an hour to work at research, data entry and groundskeeping. The program, started in 1999, "allows seniors to be able to work and be involved in the community, and the town benefits by their work," she said.

Feiner is suggesting creating about 25 slots for seniors and letting them work off $500 or so a year. His proposal faces some obstacles. If the wages earned are to be tax-free and directly credited to the property tax bill, the state Legislature would have to approve. In addition, unions would have to be convinced that the program is no threat to their members' job security.

Feiner is hoping for at least a pilot program next year.

Eventually, he said, he would like to see the county and the local school districts adopt similar plans.

"If we got seniors working for the schools, there might be a more intergenerational feeling there," he said. "It might be easier to pass the school budgets."

Janet Goodman, a retired teacher and travel agent who was leading a knitting class at a Greenburgh community center, said paying the bills at her town house in Hartsdale, one of Greenburgh's seven villages, is "a constant struggle." She said she would gladly take part in a tax workoff program "as long as the work is interesting."

"You have to be creative," she said.


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KEYWORDS: newyork; ny; seniors; socialism; socialsecurity; taxes; work
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Greenburgh resident Audrey Davison, right, talks with town supervisor Paul Feiner, left, about a proposed program that will allow her to work off some of her property taxes Friday, Dec. 14, 2007 in Greenburgh, N.Y. The town is pushing a program that would let seniors work part-time, for $7 an hour, to help pay off some of their property taxes. The plan would be unusual if not unique in New York, but similar programs are considered successes in Colorado, Massachusetts, South Carolina and elsewhere. (AP Photo/Julie Jacobson)


1 posted on 12/25/2007 10:53:23 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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I guess it beats ‘Soylent Green’.

Merry Christmas , Grandma. now Pay up!


2 posted on 12/25/2007 10:54:26 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: NormsRevenge

Senior slave labor.


3 posted on 12/25/2007 10:58:10 AM PST by GregoryFul (is a bear a bomb in a bull?)
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To: NormsRevenge

Of course, it would never occur to these Lib bureaucrats to just lower property taxes. No, no, gubmint can never get by on less. So since some intelligent folks are selling and moving to lower tax areas, they cook up a scheme to prey on seniors’ attachments to their local roots. Those whose local attachments overcome their rational thought, take the bait and stick around to feed a bloated bureacracy, and make virtual slaves of themselves. Ain’t gubmint vondurfull?


4 posted on 12/25/2007 10:59:11 AM PST by Babu (Conservatives should remember, raising taxes reduces, not increases, net income to the Trreasury)
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To: NormsRevenge

how will seniors compete against the illegals!!!!


5 posted on 12/25/2007 10:59:29 AM PST by nyyankeefan
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6 posted on 12/25/2007 10:59:48 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: NormsRevenge
she pays about $12,000 a year in property taxes

People get the government they deserve.

7 posted on 12/25/2007 10:59:55 AM PST by Jeff Chandler ("Liberals want to save the world for the children they aren't having." -Mark Steyn)
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To: NormsRevenge
In addition, unions would have to be convinced that the program is no threat to their members' job security.

Oops. Who let that sentence slip in there?

Obviously that person will be looking for his own 7 dollar an hour job after this.

8 posted on 12/25/2007 11:00:40 AM PST by Texas Eagle (Could pacifists exist if there weren't people brave enough to go to war for their right to exist?)
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To: NormsRevenge
she pays about $12,000 a year in property taxes

That is fricken obscene.

Gawd how I despise Dems/Libs

9 posted on 12/25/2007 11:01:25 AM PST by KenHorse (The Internet. Enabling the village idiot to become the global idiot with the click of the mouse)
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To: NormsRevenge

This is about the most disgusting thing I have ever heard of.
I wonder how many “government officials” have to work their taxes off?


10 posted on 12/25/2007 11:03:20 AM PST by misanthrope (There's only one way Islam will ever become "The Religion of peace", it's up to us to help them out.)
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To: GregoryFul

“Senior slave labor.”

Yeah, one has to wonder. I wonder how much they’d have to pay younger people to do those jobs, probably more than $7-8 an hour. They seem to be taking advantage of the seniors’ situation...and ability to speak English.


11 posted on 12/25/2007 11:05:47 AM PST by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: NormsRevenge

How about working for welfare? Now that gets the liberals upset. Working for taxes, no problem with the libs.


12 posted on 12/25/2007 11:06:04 AM PST by Parley Baer
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To: GregoryFul
I had a different take on it completely.

Senior citizen GRAFT provided to retired civil servants and other union pensioners at taxpayer expense.

Just a hunch. I don't trust government one bit.
13 posted on 12/25/2007 11:08:32 AM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: PLMerite

You are forgetting this is TAX FREE MONEY.


14 posted on 12/25/2007 11:09:38 AM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: NormsRevenge

At what point does working go against the seniors vis-a-vis Social Security and income taxes? If they make too much they will start to lose benefits via the $2 for $1 payback scheme.


15 posted on 12/25/2007 11:09:58 AM PST by exit82 (How do you handle Hillary? You Huma her.)
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To: GregoryFul

Exactly, the town could....cut taxes or something...but Govt will not do without a dime, let alone the 12,000 dollars she has to pay to live in her own home....

For some reason, this story offends me.


16 posted on 12/25/2007 11:10:12 AM PST by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Isaiah 3.3)
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To: NormsRevenge

It a cycle that goes on generation after generation. The seniors should “unionize” and demand higher wages (aka lower taxes) from the Gov’t. Let those “for the children” nanny state mommies pay higher taxes to build bigger schools to hire more teachers, to raise their children, etc., etc. ;-)


17 posted on 12/25/2007 11:11:05 AM PST by rhombus
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To: PLMerite

Who pays their salary? The taxpayers of course.


18 posted on 12/25/2007 11:11:34 AM PST by kabar
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To: PLMerite

And don’t forget, this is considered CHARITY to the elderly. They are not going to enforce it. These seniors are going to work 5 hours and get credited for 10...TAX FREE DOLLARS.


19 posted on 12/25/2007 11:11:52 AM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: exit82

Not after 65.


20 posted on 12/25/2007 11:12:12 AM PST by kabar
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