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The ‘War on Christmas’: Just What James Dobson Always Wanted
North Star Writers Group ^ | December 24, 2007 | Dan Calabrese

Posted on 12/24/2007 5:35:07 AM PST by Invisigoth

Focus on the Family has never seen a pointless war it wouldn’t wage.

So the purported War on Christmas was made for Dr. James Dobson’s crew. Jesus Christ overturned the moneychangers’ tables and excoriated them for turning God’s house into a den of thieves. Dobson just wants the thieves to wish you a Merry Christmas.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: colorado; focusonthefamily; jamesdobson; waronchristmas
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1 posted on 12/24/2007 5:35:08 AM PST by Invisigoth
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To: Invisigoth

Amen!

However, I would quibble even with the fact that Christmas was EVER about the birth of Christ. There is no evidence Jesus was born December 25th. The best available evidence is that he was born in the Fall, not in the Winter near the Solstice.

For Christians, Easter is the truly sacred holiday. So if Christmas becomes secularized, it’s not a big deal. Dobson needs to find more important causes to worry about.


2 posted on 12/24/2007 5:46:52 AM PST by DodoDreamer
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To: Invisigoth

Anything from Dobson’s mouth (or pen) should be taken with a grain of salt and a dose of Alka Seltzer.


3 posted on 12/24/2007 5:46:55 AM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: Invisigoth
More nonsensical posturing from the usual collection of pseudo intellectuals who confusing relentless sniping at their own side for critical thinking.

For decades there has been a relentless drive to secularize this society at all levels in all ways. Atheism or Secularism is merely a different form of religious believe. It is every bit as aggressive at pushing it's dogmas as they accuse the religious Conservatives of being.

For decades now the secularists have been waging relentless war on the Christian values and traditions of this society. Now some people are finally fighting back so, of course, the pseudo intellectual in the Conservative movement, as usual, rush to frag their own political allies rather then take on the secular aggressors.

Be really nice if the pseudo intellectual among the Conservative movement tried occasional attacking the Left on anything instead of relentlessly manufacturing really stupid reasons to yet again whine hysterically at their own side.

4 posted on 12/24/2007 5:57:58 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Hillary Clinton has never done one thing right. She thinks that qualifies her to be President?)
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To: Invisigoth
Good Read. Explains why some of us won't fight this war.

Happy Holidays and a Merry Christmas!

5 posted on 12/24/2007 5:58:03 AM PST by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: DodoDreamer
For Christians, Easter is the truly sacred holiday. So if Christmas becomes secularized, it’s not a big deal. Dobson needs to find more important causes to worry about

You were close with the birth in the Fall comment, and then you veered away < grin >. Sorry, "Easter" is a fake holy day too. Constantine formalized it in the Nicean Council. Passover is not the same thing as Easter. Easter, coming from the pagan religions of the east is tied to the solar calendar. Passover is based on the lunar calendar, and is given by the words of the Almighty spoken through His servant Moses.
7 posted on 12/24/2007 5:59:44 AM PST by safisoft (Give me Torah!)
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To: DodoDreamer
Easter is the truly sacred holiday

No its not. Its on a different day every year. how sacred is that? You remember what date JFK died on, No one knows what day the son of man died on.

8 posted on 12/24/2007 6:04:44 AM PST by Bommer ("He that controls the spice controls the universe!" (unfortunately that spice is Nutmeg!)
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To: Invisigoth

What kind of east-coast, secular-worshiping, politically-correct, thumb-sucking, bed-wetting, frilly-girly-pants-wearing, socialist-worshiping tripe is this.

So who here thinks business is a sin, sounds like a hillary sound bite to me.

I’ll grant that Christmas has not been a particularly spiritual holliday in this country, but the reason to fight is that the same people that want to take Christ out of Christmas are the same that want to reeducate our children, take our guns, lose in Iraq, tax us into submission, and at the same time build prayer rooms for the ROP.

Think of Dobson what you will, but he is on the right side.


9 posted on 12/24/2007 6:08:10 AM PST by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: safisoft
Easter, coming from the pagan religions of the east is tied to the solar calendar...

Hey, wait a minute - Easter Sunday is the first Sunday following the first full moon following the Spring equinox; a combination of lunar and solar markers.

10 posted on 12/24/2007 6:12:44 AM PST by martin gibson ("I care not what course others may take, but as for myself, give me Ralph Stanley or give me death")
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To: safisoft
Your post is very confusing.

Unlike every other Christian holy day, Easter is still based on the lunar calendar. That's why it falls on different days every year, and why it almost always coincides with Passover.

11 posted on 12/24/2007 6:13:48 AM PST by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: Invisigoth

If Dan Calabrese is against, then I’m for it. There really is an effort to stamp out “Christmas” because it is the biggest holiday of the year. It doesn’t matter that it was not the date Christ was born. It is the date that Christians have decided to celebrate Christ’s birthday. If it were not, it would not be a holiday at all. Secularists are horrified at the success of Christmas in trumping the importance of Christ’s birth and want to stamp out the source of its meaning. The good news is that the leftists are losing the war on Christmas and that’s why Dan Calabrese is crying like a little baby who has soild his diaper.


12 posted on 12/24/2007 6:20:20 AM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: WashingtonSource
It sounds like Dan Calabrese has a pretty good understanding of the true meaning of Christmas and, if you look at his bio, he seems pretty non-leftist.
13 posted on 12/24/2007 6:24:48 AM PST by stayathomemom
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To: Invisigoth
"Jesus Christ overturned the moneychangers’ tables and excoriated them for turning God’s house into a den of thieves."

If they were playing Bingo! in that Temple, Jesus probably wouldn't want to get a bunch of women worked up at Him. And that Temple would still be in operation today, because nobody would bother those women.

14 posted on 12/24/2007 6:25:42 AM PST by BobS (Did Santa just say haha, HO ?!)
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To: MNJohnnie

Excuse me, we are not talking about ‘psuedo-intellectuals’- we are talking about private merchants who sell to Christians, Jews, Muslims, Atheists and Pagans.

They don’t care one whit about ‘secularizing society’. The only thing they care about is selling to the maximum number of potential buyers. So they go out of their way not to offend anyone.

It is completely their choice. In a free society operating under a free market, we should respect their choices. And if you feel offended, feel free to shop somewhere else.


15 posted on 12/24/2007 6:26:59 AM PST by DodoDreamer
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To: stayathomemom

I disagree, as you see.


16 posted on 12/24/2007 6:30:40 AM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: DodoDreamer
the date of the celebration is not important. It is the event that is. Christianity many centuries ago chose December 25th for whatever reason, and that’s what it is. The war on Christmas was never about the date, it is an attack on the Christian faith - its beliefs and values - and it is real.

“I would quibble even with the fact that Christmas was EVER about the birth of Christ” .... CHRISTMAS HAS ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT THE BIRTH OF CHRIST. A holy God invaded an unholy world.

17 posted on 12/24/2007 6:31:35 AM PST by elpadre
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To: safisoft

Easter, termed Easter, is sort of a bastardization of the celebration of the resurrection of Christ. Alot of Celtic pagan traditions worked their way into some Chistian celebration in order to more smoothly assimilate pagans into the church after they heard the Good News. The Easter Bunny and the name Easter (a modern pronunciation of the name of a pagan spring goddess) are leftovers from this assimilation. However, as far as scholars can tell, the resurrection of Christ was celebrated by Christians as early as a hundred years after the event took place.

The fact is is that our salvation is dependant on the events of Good Friday and Resurrection Sunday (which is, by the way, why most Christians worship on Sunday instead of the Sabbath) making Easter - or Resurrection Sunday - the most important holiday on the Christian Calender.


18 posted on 12/24/2007 6:31:37 AM PST by raynearhood ("Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them."- Ronald Reagan)
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To: Invisigoth

Our ancestors were not always Christian.There were people in Europe who were there before Christianity spread across Europe. These folks were pagans. A tip of the hat to our pagan ancestors implies no disrespect for Christianity.

I have no problem with Christmas trees or the Easter Bunny. They are extras to be enjoyed and not “anti” anything.


19 posted on 12/24/2007 6:32:03 AM PST by Mark was here (Hard work never killed anyone, but why take the chance?)
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To: Invisigoth

I have never in my life had someone tell me that I couldn’t say “Merry Christmas.”


20 posted on 12/24/2007 6:33:08 AM PST by Michael A. Velli (Mitt Romney in '08 -- smart, energetic, conservative)
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